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[Jombie]

So, why did he think it would be funny for people to hold up a sign reading "death to all Jews"?

 

[How About No]

Pewds the fuck are you doing. How did you not think you weren't going to get flak for tasteless jokes

the Best Friends seem like great people.

Pat wishes for death on every single child. I mean, for OK reasons I guess but still

And Woolie hates breakfast food

 

[Gattsu25]

So, why did he think it would be funny for people to hold up a sign reading "death to all Jews"?

Better question is: Why did he think it was a good idea to pay people to hold up a sign reading "Death to all Jews". And then edit the video. And then upload it.

He's an idiot :\

 

[Chairmanchuck]

So, why did he think it would be funny for people to hold up a sign reading "death to all Jews"?

Thats some new kind of internet humour you kinda see on sites like reddit, 4chan, 9gag. I dont get it.

"Whitewashing" the crimes of Nazi Germany by using memes like "Hitler did nothing wrong", using Spongebob images and caption "Auschwitz 1945" and stuff like that.

 

[psyfi]

Sweet

 

[megalowho]

"lol anti-semitism" isn't funny or edgy. It was juvenile on the internet 20 years ago, it was lazy during the early days of 4chan and it continues to be trash in all its various forms today.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

 

[LastOne2100]

Sure are shit if it was his family that ended up in a concentration camp he wouldn't be making jokes like that. That's the problem here.

My guess is everyone here who sees no issue with this sort of repeated thing at all likely has no personal connections to what happened either.

 

[CreeperBlocks]

Is Markiplier the only big youtuber who isn't a piece of shit? Oh and the Grumps.

Cowchop,Two Best Friends play and Dunkey are the realist

 

[Frozenprince]

I cannot get over the levels of stupid you have to be to do this once, get warned not to do it again, then do it again.

When you have MILLIONS OF DOLLARS on the line.

Millions.

 

[Mega]

So you don't see anything wrong with the video he posted and requested?

There's a huge difference in seeing something wrong with his bad attempt at humor and lumping him in with actual alt-right and Nazis. He did something stupid and racist because he was trying to be edgy and funny. There's a disingenuous attempt in this thread to paint him into a modern day Nazi with sworn allegiance to wipe out other races. It's beyond a stretch.

And to be quite honest, it feels like half the posts in this thread are basking in schadenfreude: personal hate of PewDiePie, the Most Popular YouTube Personality getting his comeuppance... and couldn't care less he did something abhorrent. It reminds me of my burning wish to see BSB and NSync fail as a kid for no good reason other than hating pop music and boy bands.

 

[Loudninja]

Like it has been said before he post NINE videos of this trash.

 

[MechaX]

Lol at people saying he's a nazi/anti-semite.

He's still gonna make fat-ass stacks and have a hot as shit Italian girlfriend anyway.

You... probably should have thought about this post a little bit more than not at all before hitting the Submit Reply button on this one.

 

[LastOne2100]

I cannot get over the levels of stupid you have to be to do this once, get warned not to do it again, then do it again.

When you have MILLIONS OF DOLLARS on the line.

Millions.

Unfortunately a drop in the bucket for him so even this won't stop anything at all.

 

[Camper Van Beethoven]

ah the ol "actually it's satire" line

The joke is he's getting people to say outrageous stuff. It's the definition of satire. You don't have to like it but the point of the video was not "Jews are scum". It's the absurdity of paying somebody to hold up a sign saying it and them doing it.

 

[Spiral Insanity]

Meanwhile lets show Finding Dory in the White House

 

[Chairmanchuck]

The joke is he's getting people to say outrageous stuff. It's the definition of satire. You don't have to like it but the point of the video was not "Jews are scum". It's the absurdity of paying somebody to hold up a sign saying it and them doing it.

So saying "Hitler did nothing wrong" as a joke is also clever satire?

And come on. Like some other poster would have said. He even edited the video, submitted it. And if they wouldnt have done it, who knows? Maybe he would have found someone else to do it.

 

[Lights and Waves]

Wow.

 

[Brandon F]

That video wouldn't even fly as a prank on college humor or other similar parody or humor associated institution.

I've only ever watched Pewdiepie's videos where he seems to lament stuff going on in his life, such as discussing his income, or stepping away from gaming, and there is sincerity, genuineness, and obvious signs of a bright individual that shine through. His content never was for me, but his true personality seemed to be very respectable.

These recent slate of videos pretty much destroyed that opinion. Not even witty as shock value, just in the most poor taste. You can sort of tell his reaction to the sign reveal possibly shook him, but hard to say. Video should have never been aired and he chose to do so. Disney made the right choice to walk away from him.

 

[Frozenprince]

The joke is he's getting people to say outrageous stuff. It's the definition of satire. You don't have to like it but the point of the video was not "Jews are scum". It's the absurdity of paying somebody to hold up a sign saying it and them doing it.

Which ignores his later video where he made a "hitler did nothing wrong" joke, without that kind of prompting.

In the Jan. 22 video, Mr. Kjellberg showed a man dressed as Jesus Christ saying, “Hitler did absolutely nothing wrong.”

 

[Zen_Arcade]

The joke is he's getting people to say outrageous stuff. It's the definition of satire. You don't have to like it but the point of the video was not "Jews are scum". It's the absurdity of paying somebody to hold up a sign saying it and them doing it.

Nothing about making random people hold up signs about killing Jews is satirical.

 

[Randomizer]

Is Markiplier the only big youtuber who isn't a piece of shit? Oh and the Grumps.

I hate most of these 'celebrity' Youtubers for a myriad of reasons. But Markiplier's only offence is his dullness and general inoffenceness lol.

 

[Astral Dog]

Disney antisemetic?

 

[Gattsu25]

That video wouldn't even fly as a prank on college humor or other similar parody or humor associated institution.

I've only ever watched Pewdiepie's videos where he seems to lament stuff going on in his life, such as discussing his income, or stepping away from gaming, and there is sincerity, genuineness, and obvious signs of a bright individual that shine through. His content never was for me, but his true personality seemed to be very respectable.

These recent slate of videos pretty much destroyed that opinion. Not even witty as shock value, just in the most poor taste. You can sort of tell his reaction to the sign reveal possibly shook him, but hard to say. Video should have never been aired and he chose to do so. Disney made the right choice to walk away from him.

100% mirrors my view on his videos and this situation. Well said.

 

[brad-t]

The joke is he's getting people to say outrageous stuff. It's the definition of satire.

No it isn't???

 

[Varth]

Seem's as PewDiePie's viewer's are entering the "edgy high school" phase his humour is doing the same.

This. He Just knows his audience very well.

 

[Galang]

I wouldn't have even warned this fucker. So messed up

 

[Moze]

Didn't he recently make a video in which he talked about how he no longer does this edgy nonsense and cringes at his old stuff?

 

[Anarky]

I cannot get over the levels of stupid you have to be to do this once, get warned not to do it again, then do it again.

When you have MILLIONS OF DOLLARS on the line.

Millions.

I know right?

Literally all he had to do was not make "lol antisemitism" and "Hitler did nothing wrong" le edgy jokes yet this dude couldn't resist even with dat Disney money on the line.

 

[Vinnk]

Holy fuck. You can tell right when they reveal the message he knew he fucked up.

And the proper response to that is to upload it? You see if this had happened live and he didn't know it was going to happen, that one thing, and while still dumb, would be a bit more forgivable. Nah, he made a choice to put it out there.

Again, if this was late night Comedy Central material, no problem (although I still don't find it funny). But his audience, whether he likes it or not, is kids. I don't let my kids watch youtube unsupervised but a lot of people do. These "jokes" (and the rape jokes he used to do) send bad messages.

Maybe I'm just old.

 

[VeteranGamer]

serves him right

 

[Doctor Ironic]

Jontron isn't part of GG anymore, and that was probably part of the reason behind that move.

Ignoring that being part of Gamergate isn't something you can just go "oops my bad" on, you should also take a look at his current antics like openly retweeting Infowars and joining streams with the likes of Sargon of Akkad.

 

[ScientificPizza]

Maker is Disney? I thought Polaris was Disney?

Or is Maker Polaris?

Anyway Pewdiepie is trash for this, but he became popular on the back of rape and r*tard jokes so it's not that surprising

 

[kadotsu]

The joke is he's getting people to say outrageous stuff. It's the definition of satire. You don't have to like it but the point of the video was not "Jews are scum". It's the absurdity of paying somebody to hold up a sign saying it and them doing it.

What is it satirizing? Or if it's "just a joke" what is the setup and the punchline?

 

[Saucycarpdog]

Cool, now cut all ties with Trump or fire Iger Disney.

 

[Arkeband]

Never idolize people who make funny sounds at video game footage.

Except Dunkey, he's coo'.

 

[Anarky]

The joke is he's getting people to say outrageous stuff. It's the definition of satire. You don't have to like it but the point of the video was not "Jews are scum". It's the absurdity of paying somebody to hold up a sign saying it and them doing it.

Still wondering how the hell that's satirical.

 

[Darryl M R]

The "opinionated Youtube king" stuff is getting old. I felt like they were all capable of pulling that type of nonsense early on but I dont know why

I think it is fine for them to have an opinion, the issue I have is when they actually pretend like they are unbias and unopinionated for the most part. I have to give PhillyD credit since I heard this week he took a stance to call out the outrage that Dear White People was getting but these Youtubers play it so safe for their base with how middle of the road they are.


One reason why I started enjoying PewD content was because he took stances on stuff through his actual humor and real jokes. I'm not sure if he has hit his peak now with this situation coming out since I truly believe he is stupid enough to find what he did funny and he is being very true to himself with his channel now. I don't think there was any malice in his intention but that does not rid him of his actions and it's clear that he think Nazi-humor is the funniest for his channel.

 

[Pennywise]

Still wondering how the hell that's satirical.

It could be, if the people actually understood the language properly and knew what they were writing onto the sign.

Which doesn't seem to be the case.
Therefore the vid is trash.

 

[Dreez]

Wow in that recap video in the link, PewDiePie just keeps digging deeper and deeper.

 

[Sylas]

Ignoring that being part of Gamergate isn't something you can just go "oops my bad" on, you should also take a look at his current antics like openly retweeting Infowars and joining streams with the likes of Sargon of Akkad.

Pssst. I think "GG" in this instance meant Game Grumps.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Still wondering how the hell that's satirical.

Look up the definition of satire. It is:

The use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.

So obviously it is satire because he is exposing his...own....stupidity....? Yeah, I'm out.

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

So, why did he think it would be funny for people to hold up a sign reading "death to all Jews"?

I don't get it either. He's an idiot to say the least.

 

[Dmonzy]

It was a terrible joke, but this article and post are completely taking it out of context to push an agenda which many gaffers are falling for. I don't like the guy but he's not antisemitic, and if you want the full context he posted a video response days after the event explaining his thoughts. Tbh this is a really bad thread.

 

[Darryl M R]

The joke is he's getting people to say outrageous stuff. It's the definition of satire. You don't have to like it but the point of the video was not "Jews are scum". It's the absurdity of paying somebody to hold up a sign saying it and them doing it.

sat·ire
ˈsaˌtī(&#601r/
noun
the use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.


What is he exposing and criticizing?

 

[Moosichu]

Yes, what he did was probably stupid. But I think people are missing something here. He doesn't think "Death to all Jews" is funny. He is shocked that the people actually did it. He didn't think they'd do it. Has no one heard of shock humour? It's literally what Louis CK created his brand around. I can't believe how sensitive GAF is getting. He clearly isn't serious here about these being his really thoughts. Maybe it's because I don't live in the USA but man is the internet getting touchy.

It's all about context, shocking humour becomes less funny when it hits closer to home. With the real threat of white supremacy returning in a big way, shocking jokes don't work.


Pewdiepie has been a massive idiot with this stuff though. It is worth pointing out that he has been clumsily trying to parody Donald Trump by comparing him to Nazism, but going about it not so well.

The WSJ have been disingenuous in their portrayal of his history, I feel.

 

[ScientificPizza]

Except Dunkey, he's coo'.

Dunkey has his problems, but I love that guy. His reviews are some of the best around tbh, even if they're still just jokes half of the time

 

[Frozenprince]

Repeat after me, folks:

Free speech doesn't mean people can't call you on your shit.
Free speech doesn't mean there are no consequences for the things you say.

For real. Free speech does not shield you from consequence of your speech.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Wow.

he even managed to find time to make these "jokes" when he was apologizing. He's one of those reverse racism types, thinks people are being harsh because he's white and not because he's probably a white supremacist.

 

[Izuna]

100%

It's because of h3h3

I felt like Pewd improved in quality since collaborating with h3h3 but then when h3h3 turned out to be a piece of shit, I'm not surprised that he ended up being a bad influence.

No, these sorts of edgy jokes were never funny, regardless of who you are or who your friends are.