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Xbox Scorpio reveal on Thursday at 2pm UK / 6am Pacific by Eurogamer/DF

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RedStep

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If a MS exec is hovering behind you it's not out of the realm of possibility that you would hold back from talking about limitations or deficiencies in the hardware/etc.

In a perfect world sony and ms drop off their new console kits in a mailbox with no strings attached but you have to be silly to not see thats not how this works. In the end this is PR.

I feel like I'm going to need a shower for even posting in this tainted thread, but this is nothing new. The PS4 Pro articles may not have had the "fanfare" (a tweet the day before), but DF was certainly given comfortable treatment, pre-release, at Sony HQ to do their writeup. How is that different from this?

Leadbetter said:
Six weeks on from the unveiling of the Sony's latest console and I'm in a conference room in Sony's new San Mateo HQ, revisiting the bulk of the PlayStation 4 Pro titles unveiled so far, accompanied by system architect Mark Cerny.

It's literally nothing.
 

Granadier

Is currently on Stage 1: Denial regarding the service game future
This thread has been an emotional roller-coaster.

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BeforeU

Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
What the fuck is going on here.

People are concerned and now questioning the credibility of DF? LMAO This is the last thing I expected. Spes are specs, DF cant just lie about and they are certainly not the only people who understands computer hardware in this world. We have lot of telented people on GAF alone can call out for any BS claims.

This is honestly pretty exciting if you get your head out of your ass. There will not be a PR BS about how many billion transistors it has, or power of the cloud. Since DF doing it, it will be hardcore benchmark results.

Its like you just cant satisfy some people ever
 

Dlacy13g

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How on Earth is GAF rationalizing being mad about the tech specs being revealed and uncovered by the forefront expert in tech specs? I am beyond confused right now.

Because GAF has become exactly what the for so long said they weren't. Every thread in GAF is increasingly less about good constructive conversation and instead filled with massive amounts of witch hunt/fanboy BS.
 

Head.spawn

Junior Member
-DF have now had their integrity ruined because they agreed to do a technical analysis of a console

-if DF says anything bad, they can be sued for harming the product

-If DF says anything good, it's tainted by the unholy M$ monies

-Sony fans can use this opportunity to gather mistrust bullets and fire them into the chaotic frenzy of scandal and lies

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IM GONNA ORGANISE WITH MY NEIGHBOURS AND FIGHT THE GLOBALISTS, WE KNOW WERE UNDER ATTACK, WE KNOW IT

Lets print out flyers to hand out at Gamestop and make infographs and hashtags!

It's all too much.
 
Digital Foundry just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about pixel counting culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in IGN where you can become successful by being a shill. If you screw someone over on pixel counting, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the image quality enthusiast public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Scorpio, nor will they ever trust Digital Foundry again. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Digital Foundry has alienated an entire reader base with this move.

Digital Foundry, publicly apologize and cancel the piece on Scorpio or you can kiss your business goodbye.

Still probably the greatest GAF meme of all time.

ok this meme has been getting tired but this is actually good

You shut your mouth.

This thread has been an emotional roller-coaster.

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Welcome back.


Exactly my thoughts

You're all on drugs.

We're high on GAF maaaaaan!
 
Jesus its like reading through replies by 12 year olds...

DF is the absolute best place for this to be revealed. You will get everything raw. No PR spin on it. To me that signals confidence. I hope it turns out to be an awesome machine, and I hope they add awesome software to take advantage of it. I want to jump back on board and have experiences I can't have elsewhere.
 
In this thread we see how to some users Digital Foundry is changing from a highly respected part of the gaming industry to "Microsoft sellouts" seriously what is wrong with some of you

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Izuna

Banned
What the fuck is going on here.

People are concerned and now questioning the credibility of DF? LMAO This is the last thing I expected. Spes are specs, DF cant just lie about and they are certainly not the only people who understands computer hardware in this world. We have lot of telented people on GAF alone can call out for any BS claims.

This is honestly pretty exciting if you get your head out of your ass. There will not be a PR BS about how many billion transistors it has, or power of the cloud. Since DF doing it, it will be hardcore benchmark results.

Its like you just cant satisfy some people ever

They know it will be more powerful than the PS4 Pro and the fanboys are doing what they can to set the narrative that it really ain't.

Meanwhile, 90% of other posters, including Xbox fans are concerned that it won't be enough and the rest are thinking that MS are gunna blow us away somehow.

As if, MS doesn't just need to live up to their own hype, but they'll go above it. This thread went exactly as I expected.
 

Xumbrega

Banned
man Scorpio trying to recapture the Xbox OG essence would be GLORIOUS

begin with Splinter Cell, Otogi and a Fable reboot

DO IT
 

Synth

Member
I don't understand your point, the games I pointed out were exclusive games on OG XBX at the time...MS needs some big exclsuives across many genres lin that same vein liek I specified ..


They need a good slasher game, a good fighter, a good platformer etc only on XBX with Scorpio power to boost the looks of their exclsuives even more.....Just like OG XBX did it.

Also, not only was DOA3 and NG some of the best looking games on XB, they also run at 60fps because of the hardware...If MS comes through with the hardware as they did with OG XBX and it's definitely looking like it, they will need to get some exclusives in different genres to complement the hardware...


As for mentioning Halflife, DOOM, etc... they were very good ports on a console so these titles rounded the OG XBX library really well, not many console gamers played PC games back then, so it was kinda of unique that they were solid ports....which many people played.


Also, the best place to play Splinter Cell was on OG XBX on consoles by a good degree....Though Pandora Tomorrow and DA were pretty decent on PS2...That title was more synonymous with OG XBX, just as MGS2 was synonymous with PS2 and performed better there as well...

My point is simple... you're talking about game that would possibly be multiplat later... and then listed a bunch of games that were less reliably exclusive than the games you threw up as potential multiplat defectors. Yes, some of them were exclusive at the time of release... but that is also true of Sunset Overdrive, or Quantum Break (and a Quantum Break sequel couldn't go multiplat). Point is, that some of the games you listed actually did go multiplat with their sequels, or even that very iteration... and most that didn't were simply because there was no sequel, but they probably would have if there were (Jade Empire, Jet Set Radio, etc).

You're really arguing the quantity of games, not the nature of their exclusivity, because a Ninja Gaiden and a Sunset Overdrive are essentially the same in that regards.

The Scorpio will automatically be the best place to play most multiplats also, like the OG Xbox was... so there's no point in mentioning stuff like Splinter Cell either, because that'd apply to basically everything that doesn't have DLC exclusivity tied to it.
 

Hexer06

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man Scorpio trying to recapture the Xbox OG essence would be GLORIOUS

begin with Splinter Cell, Otogi and a Fable reboot

DO IT

Fuck yes to Otogi especially! I brought it up in a previous thread, it's my most wanted Remake/Sequel. More Otogi would be sick!
 

Minarik

Member
This thread is going nuts lol. Didn't DF get a close look at the PS4 Pro and nobody said anything? I'm excited that MS is confident enough to let DF go in hard and really dig into the tech specs.
 

SOR5

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I don't think this would be too bad actually, but I think having a separate logo for OG XB1 and XB1 S is overdoing it
 
It would be interesting if MS were trying to recapture the spirit of the OG Xbox with Scorpio: cult Japanese exclusives, new PGR, exclusive Splinter Cell, etc. I doubt it though.

That would be fantastic and unexpected too. They could bring back Crimson Skies to offer even more diversity in their library, a new Mech Assault could be made. And a new Splinter Cell going back to what it made it so great.
Have BioWare make Jade Empire 2.....sigh.....

It would be a fantastic scenario but I don't think this is the kind of MS we're ever getting back because there probably just isn't enough profit in it. Even though Phil Spencer did acknowledge that bringing back Mech Assault would be great not too long ago.
 

Breakage

Member
New Splinter Cell with night time urban levels.

That would be fantastic and unexpected too. They could bring back Crimson Skies to offer even more diversity in their library, a new Mech Assault could be made. And a new Splinter Cell going back to what it made it so great.
Have BioWare make Jade Empire 2.....sigh.....

It would be a fantastic scenario but I don't think this is the kind of MS we're ever getting back because there probably just isn't enough profit in it. Even though Phil Spencer did acknowledge that bringing back Mech Assault would be great not too long ago.

Yeah, I agree. I don't see MS doing it. But man, capturing the spirit of original Xbox's library would be so cool. I regret getting rid of my OG Xbox.
 

BeforeU

Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
I think people shouldn't expect
1). Name
2). Price
3). Design

MS would most likely save that for them themselves
 

ResoRai

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DF should be keeping MS and their consoles in check, MS shouldn't be using them to advertise and reveal their products.

Not joking.

This is orchestrated propaganda by using DF's 'reputability'

I'm really not concerned about future Sony or Nintendo coverage but seeing how DF is ok with being an advertising platform for a console manufacturer or just hardware in general definitely leaves a bad taste in people's mouths.

DF presents themselves as a pure fact driven tech outlet. That doesn't interfere with showing or analyzing any graphics card or console sent by the manufacturer - but the fact that they're acting as a promotion platform makes it look like this:
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Gaming journalism and the often uncomfortably relationship to video game companies basically - that's a very delicate topic and why we see a bunch of genuinely concerned folks (calm down fanboys DF went from "360 bias" to "PS4 bias" - you go figure).

I can see where MS is going with this, and on the surface it looks like a good idea, but they seem to constantly forget that everything they do is constantly met with the greatest suspicion of sinister motives. As a result MS and DF should have expected lots of accusations of bias or payola or whatever. MS probably thought "DF is trusted and we think we have a technical winner here, it will be more believable coming from them." and DF thought "This will drive clicks like nobody's business, plus we'd really like to get our hands on Scorpio from a tech-angle". But in the end it's just going to end up hurting DF in some people's eyes and those same people won't believe DF's commentary on Scorpio any more than they would have an MS suit.

Sony fans should be happy about this news if anything. This exclusive and the accompanying distrust it brings will give them ammo to invalidate the results of any head-to-heads that Sony may lose in the months following Scorpio's release.
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Digital Foundry just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about pixel counting culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in IGN where you can become successful by being a shill. If you screw someone over on pixel count, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the image quality enthusiast public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Scorpio, nor will they ever trust Digital Foundry again. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Digital Foundry has alienated an entire reader base with this move.

Digital Foundry, publicly apologize and cancel the piece on Scorpio or you can kiss your business goodbye.
This though 👌
 
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