rokkerkory
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Lets see what a less than 100% sdk can produce at this time
If a MS exec is hovering behind you it's not out of the realm of possibility that you would hold back from talking about limitations or deficiencies in the hardware/etc.
In a perfect world sony and ms drop off their new console kits in a mailbox with no strings attached but you have to be silly to not see thats not how this works. In the end this is PR.
Leadbetter said:Six weeks on from the unveiling of the Sony's latest console and I'm in a conference room in Sony's new San Mateo HQ, revisiting the bulk of the PlayStation 4 Pro titles unveiled so far, accompanied by system architect Mark Cerny.
This thread has been an emotional roller-coaster.
How on Earth is GAF rationalizing being mad about the tech specs being revealed and uncovered by the forefront expert in tech specs? I am beyond confused right now.
Leadbetter has a lot of contacts within MS. I'm sure it'll be him.
-DF have now had their integrity ruined because they agreed to do a technical analysis of a console
-if DF says anything bad, they can be sued for harming the product
-If DF says anything good, it's tainted by the unholy M$ monies
-Sony fans can use this opportunity to gather mistrust bullets and fire them into the chaotic frenzy of scandal and lies
IM GONNA ORGANISE WITH MY NEIGHBOURS AND FIGHT THE GLOBALISTS, WE KNOW WERE UNDER ATTACK, WE KNOW IT
Original Xbox BC would instantly sell me on Scorpio
This is my wish for the future of Xbox as well.
Digital Foundry just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about pixel counting culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in IGN where you can become successful by being a shill. If you screw someone over on pixel counting, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the image quality enthusiast public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Scorpio, nor will they ever trust Digital Foundry again. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Digital Foundry has alienated an entire reader base with this move.
Digital Foundry, publicly apologize and cancel the piece on Scorpio or you can kiss your business goodbye.
ok this meme has been getting tired but this is actually good
This thread has been an emotional roller-coaster.
Welcome back.
You're all on drugs.
This thread has been an emotional roller-coaster.
What the fuck is going on here.
People are concerned and now questioning the credibility of DF? LMAO This is the last thing I expected. Spes are specs, DF cant just lie about and they are certainly not the only people who understands computer hardware in this world. We have lot of telented people on GAF alone can call out for any BS claims.
This is honestly pretty exciting if you get your head out of your ass. There will not be a PR BS about how many billion transistors it has, or power of the cloud. Since DF doing it, it will be hardcore benchmark results.
Its like you just cant satisfy some people ever
I don't understand your point, the games I pointed out were exclusive games on OG XBX at the time...MS needs some big exclsuives across many genres lin that same vein liek I specified ..
They need a good slasher game, a good fighter, a good platformer etc only on XBX with Scorpio power to boost the looks of their exclsuives even more.....Just like OG XBX did it.
Also, not only was DOA3 and NG some of the best looking games on XB, they also run at 60fps because of the hardware...If MS comes through with the hardware as they did with OG XBX and it's definitely looking like it, they will need to get some exclusives in different genres to complement the hardware...
As for mentioning Halflife, DOOM, etc... they were very good ports on a console so these titles rounded the OG XBX library really well, not many console gamers played PC games back then, so it was kinda of unique that they were solid ports....which many people played.
Also, the best place to play Splinter Cell was on OG XBX on consoles by a good degree....Though Pandora Tomorrow and DA were pretty decent on PS2...That title was more synonymous with OG XBX, just as MGS2 was synonymous with PS2 and performed better there as well...
SO GUYS WHAT GAMES DO YOU HOPE WILL BE BENCHMARKED???
SO GUYS WHAT GAMES DO YOU HOPE WILL BE BENCHMARKED???
man Scorpio trying to recapture the Xbox OG essence would be GLORIOUS
begin with Splinter Cell, Otogi and a Fable reboot
DO IT
SO GUYS WHAT GAMES DO YOU HOPE WILL BE BENCHMARKED???
SO GUYS WHAT GAMES DO YOU HOPE WILL BE BENCHMARKED???
Shit son. What I'd do for a new Splinter Cell.
SO GUYS WHAT GAMES DO YOU HOPE WILL BE BENCHMARKED???
man Scorpio trying to recapture the Xbox OG essence would be GLORIOUS
begin with Splinter Cell, Otogi and a Fable reboot
DO IT
That's what is getting me hyped. Love the original Xbox. Phil knows.
This thread has been an emotional roller-coaster.
This thread is going nuts lol. Didn't DF get a close look at the PS4 Pro and nobody said anything? I'm excited that MS is confident enough to let DF go in hard and really dig into the tech specs.
Shit son. What I'd do for a new Splinter Cell.
Gears 4 and Forza Horizon 3 are what I'm expectingSO GUYS WHAT GAMES DO YOU HOPE WILL BE BENCHMARKED???
If we are talking about the Original Xbox era you can't leave this gems behind
KOTOR 1 is my second favorite game of all time
It would be interesting if MS were trying to recapture the spirit of the OG Xbox with Scorpio: cult Japanese exclusives, new PGR, exclusive Splinter Cell, etc. I doubt it though.
That would be fantastic and unexpected too. They could bring back Crimson Skies to offer even more diversity in their library, a new Mech Assault could be made. And a new Splinter Cell going back to what it made it so great.
Have BioWare make Jade Empire 2.....sigh.....
It would be a fantastic scenario but I don't think this is the kind of MS we're ever getting back because there probably just isn't enough profit in it. Even though Phil Spencer did acknowledge that bringing back Mech Assault would be great not too long ago.
Nuance: I did not say they are being paid. But seriously, how do you know they are not paid ?
If we are talking about the Original Xbox era you can't leave this gems behind
KOTOR 1 is my second favorite game of all time
SO GUYS WHAT GAMES DO YOU HOPE WILL BE BENCHMARKED???
Still laughing about thatThis may be my favourite GAF post ever.
DF should be keeping MS and their consoles in check, MS shouldn't be using them to advertise and reveal their products.
Not joking.
This is orchestrated propaganda by using DF's 'reputability'
I'm really not concerned about future Sony or Nintendo coverage but seeing how DF is ok with being an advertising platform for a console manufacturer or just hardware in general definitely leaves a bad taste in people's mouths.
DF presents themselves as a pure fact driven tech outlet. That doesn't interfere with showing or analyzing any graphics card or console sent by the manufacturer - but the fact that they're acting as a promotion platform makes it look like this:
Gaming journalism and the often uncomfortably relationship to video game companies basically - that's a very delicate topic and why we see a bunch of genuinely concerned folks (calm down fanboys DF went from "360 bias" to "PS4 bias" - you go figure).
https://youtu.be/B-TMIqHGhVEI can see where MS is going with this, and on the surface it looks like a good idea, but they seem to constantly forget that everything they do is constantly met with the greatest suspicion of sinister motives. As a result MS and DF should have expected lots of accusations of bias or payola or whatever. MS probably thought "DF is trusted and we think we have a technical winner here, it will be more believable coming from them." and DF thought "This will drive clicks like nobody's business, plus we'd really like to get our hands on Scorpio from a tech-angle". But in the end it's just going to end up hurting DF in some people's eyes and those same people won't believe DF's commentary on Scorpio any more than they would have an MS suit.
Sony fans should be happy about this news if anything. This exclusive and the accompanying distrust it brings will give them ammo to invalidate the results of any head-to-heads that Sony may lose in the months following Scorpio's release.
This though 👌Digital Foundry just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about pixel counting culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in IGN where you can become successful by being a shill. If you screw someone over on pixel count, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the image quality enthusiast public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Scorpio, nor will they ever trust Digital Foundry again. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Digital Foundry has alienated an entire reader base with this move.
Digital Foundry, publicly apologize and cancel the piece on Scorpio or you can kiss your business goodbye.
Looking forward to Microsoft reclaiming their spot as the graphical king.
Thursday will be great.