I have to admit, amongst all the other stuff that is happening right now, I keep forgetting that Brexit is a thing.
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The UK votes to leave the European Union |OUT2| Mayday, Mayday, I've lost an ARM
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I have to admit, amongst all the other stuff that is happening right now, I keep forgetting that Brexit is a thing.
Which is the scary part - imagine how much shit is going to get unreported with the bluster of the Second Korean War? Too much already gets lost with the coverage of Trump's tweets...
PdotMichael
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The good old paranoia that the EU is directed against the UK and British people.
The country IS coming together... assuming you're willing to ignore the vote of almost half of its voting population.
The EMA can't easily operate out of a non EU country. Not to mention that the UK will have to provide all their own procedures and validators for submissions pretty quickly. I assume it's the same for banking. This is the sort of thing that should have been made known to the public in advance of a referendum, but the whole thing was an amazing shitshow of lies and misdirection.
I hope that people in the UK pay close attention to everything. For us over here it's "just" one of many important stories right now. Today Turkey, French Elections next.
RedSparrows
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But keep trusting the very establishment you supposedly hate. Gg.
Corbyn has arrived at the worst time.
Corbyn has arrived at the worst time.
Royal_Phalanx
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I'll be 44 by then, lol. Those are going to be some nice lost decades there.
Martin5000
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Hey gafers. I need some help for a University research and need somebody from the UK!
Could anybody pm me? I don't want to derail this thread with my off topic question...
But I still sometimes can't believe UK voted to leave
Could anybody pm me? I don't want to derail this thread with my off topic question...
and I hope I won't get banned ...
But I still sometimes can't believe UK voted to leave
Nursing is one of the most intensive degrees out there at the moment which leads you to a difficult, stressful and underpaid career.
I mean I know our Government are a bunch of incompetents but literally everyone knew that removing the bursary's would severely damage nursing numbers but they still went through with it.
I mean I know our Government are a bunch of incompetents but literally everyone knew that removing the bursary's would severely damage nursing numbers but they still went through with it.
I've always wondered how far austerity could go. Services were (apparently) being stretched and it has to lead to something breaking eventually. I reckon you could make a pretty compelling argument how some parts have already broken.
Ooh, what a cohesive society. And the polarisation between haves and have nots...
Stallion Dan
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EU dipshits gonna cause what they want to prevent. Idiots.
Quite clearly it was the other way around. Only the most deluded could possibly read that as otherwise.
Stallion Dan
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No, because EU had the decision. They chose poorly.
UK want a situation that benefits both, EU chooses one that is exactly what EU don't want. UK has no fault here, EU doing same shit that caused Brexit in first place, they wont learn.
Seriously?
PdotMichael
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Great sarcasm.
When the entire strategy of the leave campaign was racism and the delusion that voting for leave would destabilize the EU and force them to give the UK whatever they want.
When the entire strategy of the leave campaign was racism and the delusion that voting for leave would destabilize the EU and force them to give the UK whatever they want.
How can you be so delusional? How's that even possible? Here are the facts, you are waaaaaaaaay over there.
Yes. Dude is completely lost in some dark place, where Ignorance is strength or war is peace.
Stallion Dan
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Same old nonsense. Calling people racist when they aren't doesn't win them over, it just makes them do exactly what you don't want them to. Just like EU is doing now to UK.
Threats seem to work...oh wait, they don't. Stroking those victimhood complexes must feel real good.
Stallion Dan
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A reminder of reality if EU doesn't do what best for all is no threat, but a promise.
Lol at you editing in a potshot. Enjoy your points, winner!
You mean acting like a witless troll is going to get the EU to go along?
I felt my previous comment didn't do enough to address the stupidity of that stance.
Stallion Dan
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UK forced to be low tax haven will be the result of a bad deal, UK know this, EU know this.
Is quite hypocritical of posters in this thread repeatedly​ saying "X is result of Brexit, you know it would happen, you had a choice", then when EU makes a choice where it knows the outcome, it not the EU fault.
But that's this thread all over, hypocrisy everywhere because still bitter about that Brexit loss.
Clearly nobody is forcing the UK to do anything, and like witless idiots they're choosing to shoot themselves in the foot.
They're the ones with the demands. Thus they have to offer something other than threats in return.
What's so bad about being a tax haven? Sure everyone below the top rate will get utterly fucked but I'll be alright. For what it's worth the UK couldn't find a welfare state for 65m by being a tax haven so the added benefit is that the death rate amongst the leavers will tick up. Silver linings.
Stallion Dan
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And you call others witless. So you expect UK to let EU fuck it and do nothing to respond?
Stallion Dan
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Calling death of people something good. You're a vile little person.
Let....
Hhahahahhahahahaha
Next you're going to suggest they invade or lob over some missiles.
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PdotMichael
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Yes, no one forced us to jump from a cliff but why didn't you stop us?
The low tax move is not a credible threat. It simply isn't. You can't fund anywhere near half the entitlement of the current social settlement on a Singapore style model. At worst, corporation tax will be cut, but since it's still a 65 million market versus a 400 million market companies will choose the largest market.
The EU didn't do this, the UK did it to itself. The EU is under no obligation to prove the UK with a soft landing, the UK and the EU were partners now they're competitors. The EU like all trade blocs is essentially a protectionist entity, if you're out then you're out. The UK is the one which made a decision and is begging for special access it isn't going to get.
Stallion Dan
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No, you called. Don't try wiggle out of it.
Want it quoted again?
So according to you people dying is a "benefit" and "silver lining".
Disgusting.
UcchedavÄda
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Early trade talks aside, does it make any sense at all for those two agencies to be located outside of the EU?
R_thanatos
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lol @ the bolded
PdotMichael
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Ucchedavāda;234034818 said:
That the agencies would leave the UK was always fact. The only semi surprising thing is the pace the EU operates in that regard.
What he really means is "UK wants all the benefits without FOM and paying into EU"
PdotMichael
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Well, British people don't deserve less.
I will own the shit out of that quote. I am more than happy to see the death rate amongst that demographic tick-up. It would be the only benefit from implementing such a policy. The larger point is you are the one who voted for it. So you did it to yourself. Own your shit.
Quite amusing really. Especially the EMA, where 'taking back control' is going to be a regulatory regime for medicine which has to completely ape the EU's or US's model, else you put a massive regulatory cost on any prospective new drug entering the UK market.
But we can't stay in the EMA, because that would mean the CJEU would continue to have jurisdiction, so we're probably going to be the slightly silly position of simply copying the EMA's regulatory framework with absolutely no say. Of course this would mean that drugs certified in the EU market would be acceptable here, but not the other way around.
In what way does the CJEU interact with the EMA, is this just regulatory enforcement or something more?
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The European Medical Agency makes EU law through delegated powers. If a point is unclear or contested, the CJEU issues a definitive ruling stating what exactly the nature of the law is.
Then surely all the UK would need to do is shadow any ruling on these matters. They'd effectively be under CJEU law, just not its jurisdiction.
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Your last sentence is a contradiction. Having to abide by a particular body's legal pronouncements is the same as being under that body's jurisdiction. If you are signed up to the EMA, you are under CJEU jurisdiction.
Perhaps I didn't explain it well. The UK would be replicating the same laws to facilitate regulation but would have equivalent entities to the CJEU and EMA.
Thus the UK would be forced to use the same laws but they would be applicable only inside the UK. Clearly I know very little about this, but do other countries essentially copy the rules set out in the EMA or FDA? For smaller countries it would seem like a good course of action.
DarthMasta
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All this because EU institutions are going to leave the UK, which is pretty obvious, no? Unless somehow it's normal to have that sort of thing in foreign territory, which the UK is going to be in a couple of years.
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