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Spider-Man: Homecoming |OT| MCU's Sweet 16 - SPOILERS
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Gordon Shumway
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Gonna continue to be happy that some were just so convinced of Stark influence. Dude was barely in 15 minutes of the whole thing. Absolutely loved the suit, and how it ultimately taught him it was better to stay grounded.
The roaring laughter when he asked about the dudes daughter in the theater was too damn much lol..
The roaring laughter when he asked about the dudes daughter in the theater was too damn much lol..
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Oh yeah, definitely. That part actually made me well up a little bit.
Uncle Ben is Richard Parker's brother, so May is Peter's aunt by marriage.
Lights and Waves
Member
Just left the theater. That was good, but extremely overrated. It didn't even feel like a Spider-man movie. It felt like an Avengers side story. The ending was also kind of abrupt and the joke at the end didn't land.
The Zendaya reveal had my theatre cheering though. That was perfect!
The Zendaya reveal had my theatre cheering though. That was perfect!
Ah, I kinda forgot how the Parker family tree was structured.
Seductivpancakes
Member
Honestly, I was shocked when Liz's father turned out to be the Vulture and also relieved the showdown wasn't going to have Liz be kidnapped and shit.
I'm not saying it's a plot hole or anything.....it's just weird to have those two moments in the same film, especially considering that they clearly wanted to throttle back on the "Aunt May's a MILF!" angle.
It mostly seemed indemic of Marvel's problem with Tony. Sometimes they want to have him grow up, sometimes they want to have him continue to be a flippant playboy. It's getting increasingly difficult for them to have it both ways though.
His engagement to Pepper should be a major moment for Stark, yet it's weirdly buried at the end of a Spider-Man movie.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
And then there's Maude..
The joke at the end got the biggest laugh in the movie in my theater, it even got people cheering and clapping, which I almost never see. Last time I saw cheers and claps was during TFA.
I think you're saying that a bit too seriously, Tony wasn't actually hitting on May, he was messing with Peter.
Lights and Waves
Member
Also why didn't he have spidey sense anymore? I really wish they would have alluded to Uncle Ben or even a tiny bit more of his origin story, rather than the half second conversation we got.
I have to agree. The twist was handled extremely well & you could tell that Adrian Toomes was a great dad (Vulture stuff aside).
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tom holland is the best
ned was great. loved his arc. him spinning around in the chair was awesome. him finding out pete was spider man so early was great.
mj is the best. loved every bit she had, loved her arc, loved her attitude, love every thing about her. love that she gave peter a look at the end. they better do that. loved when she flipped him off. loved when she was drawing in detention. loved when she made that sad face at peter.
the pe teacher making that remark about cap being a war criminal was the best one liner in the movie. that cinematic universe in full effect.
I'm so glad I didn't get spoiled, when toomes was revealed as liz's dad that shit was crazy; whole theater gasped
one of the best marvel villains. keaton was so good. loved his story. great performance. they opened the movie on him and it honestly felt like his story as much as peter's. loved the mid credits scene when he lies and then gets told his family is here presumably to connect the dot that he was protecting his daughter by protecting peter's identity. you also get the feeling nacho (oh yeah fucking nacho as gargan!) knows that toomes is bullshitting. they really did a good job of making his motivations solid and never making him go full psychopath even though he was doing some fucked up shit.
also I loved liz and pete's relationship with her. they did a good job throughout the movie of showing the sort of sacrifices that peter makes to be spider man. much better than asm did with fucking ghost dad. I liked their chemistry a lot which made the parts where peter had to be shitty to her because of spider man more poignant. loved when she invited him swimming. and then the whole scene at the house and in the car with peter, toomes, and liz. you know right when toomes opens the door for peter that the whole night for liz is ruined, both because of peter getting taken out of his element and eventually having to ditch her at the dance and because her dad is on the way to fuck shit up.
this is all I thought about after he named his suit ai karen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voDqfVthTpA
they fucking recreated this scene and they actually did it really well. you know they're not going to kill spider man but when he's laying there you really get the feel that he's hopeless.
also there were two moments for me that really show both sides of spider man so well one serious and one bit
the serious one is how spider man goes about that whole ending bit. he fucking hitches a ride into the sky without a parachute, totally out of his league and probably under prepared, but it doesn't matter because he has to so he does. that ending bit on the ground and how he saved toomes. that's spider man.
the bit is when he's chillin on the fire exit with his mask rolled up to his nose, talking on the phone to someone who outranks him, eating a churro, and leaving a message for them about eating the churro. that was great.
that's all I've got for now. great fucking movie.
tom holland is the best
ned was great. loved his arc. him spinning around in the chair was awesome. him finding out pete was spider man so early was great.
mj is the best. loved every bit she had, loved her arc, loved her attitude, love every thing about her. love that she gave peter a look at the end. they better do that. loved when she flipped him off. loved when she was drawing in detention. loved when she made that sad face at peter.
the pe teacher making that remark about cap being a war criminal was the best one liner in the movie. that cinematic universe in full effect.
I'm so glad I didn't get spoiled, when toomes was revealed as liz's dad that shit was crazy; whole theater gasped
one of the best marvel villains. keaton was so good. loved his story. great performance. they opened the movie on him and it honestly felt like his story as much as peter's. loved the mid credits scene when he lies and then gets told his family is here presumably to connect the dot that he was protecting his daughter by protecting peter's identity. you also get the feeling nacho (oh yeah fucking nacho as gargan!) knows that toomes is bullshitting. they really did a good job of making his motivations solid and never making him go full psychopath even though he was doing some fucked up shit.
also I loved liz and pete's relationship with her. they did a good job throughout the movie of showing the sort of sacrifices that peter makes to be spider man. much better than asm did with fucking ghost dad. I liked their chemistry a lot which made the parts where peter had to be shitty to her because of spider man more poignant. loved when she invited him swimming. and then the whole scene at the house and in the car with peter, toomes, and liz. you know right when toomes opens the door for peter that the whole night for liz is ruined, both because of peter getting taken out of his element and eventually having to ditch her at the dance and because her dad is on the way to fuck shit up.
this is all I thought about after he named his suit ai karen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voDqfVthTpA
they fucking recreated this scene and they actually did it really well. you know they're not going to kill spider man but when he's laying there you really get the feel that he's hopeless.
also there were two moments for me that really show both sides of spider man so well one serious and one bit
the serious one is how spider man goes about that whole ending bit. he fucking hitches a ride into the sky without a parachute, totally out of his league and probably under prepared, but it doesn't matter because he has to so he does. that ending bit on the ground and how he saved toomes. that's spider man.
the bit is when he's chillin on the fire exit with his mask rolled up to his nose, talking on the phone to someone who outranks him, eating a churro, and leaving a message for them about eating the churro. that was great.
that's all I've got for now. great fucking movie.
Scrooge McDuck
Member
They didn't throttle back on that angle at all. No less than three people in the movie were crushing on her.
Uncle Ben was alluded towards when Peter mentioned that May went through a lot. As for the Spider Sense, Peter mentioned in Civil War that his senses were dialed up to 11.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Seductivpancakes
Member
Ned saying he was watching porn was probably the joke that got me the most. Was laughing so hard, I couldn't breathe for a few seconds.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Yeah, it's easy to forget sometimes. In the comics, her maiden name is Reilly, which I wonder if they'll use or change because she's Italian or just strictly refer to her as May Parker.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Absolutely the loudest laugh during our viewing..can't imagine anyone was expecting THAT..
Lights and Waves
Member
Tomei slated as a hipster milf, but she seemed kind of...absent? Aunt May always provides better with that drive to achieve and do more.
In this film it kind of felt as though if Peter were to one day say that he wanted to drop out and work at McDonald's, she'd be like OK and go back to collecting vinyl records or something.
In this film it kind of felt as though if Peter were to one day say that he wanted to drop out and work at McDonald's, she'd be like OK and go back to collecting vinyl records or something.
It's a weird situation. It seems like the screenwriter thought she was supposed to be a sexy MILF but the costume designers and makeup artists were never given the memo. She's clearly made to look less attractive in this film than she was in Civil War. She kinda just went from "hot mom" to just "mom".
Lights and Waves
Member
Can you explain what that means? I'm not really comprehending. If his sense is so high, why did it never once work during the film? Everything caught him off guard.
Scrooge McDuck
Member
Because when you sense everything, it's actually harder to focus on the important ones. I suppose he's simply still getting used to it.
Lights and Waves
Member
Oh I see now, thank you!
Additionally, I was moved by just how diverse this film was. I absolutely love that. Also MJ's comment about the slaves building the Washington Monument. ICONIC!
Seductivpancakes
Member
It takes a brave man to say that. Ned taking one for the team.
Callibretto
Member
Spidey also make a lot of mistakes in Civil War, the only time you see his spider sense is when he dodges Winter Soldier throwing something at him, but he never saw Red Wing coming at him, and got swatted away by Ant-Man.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
One of my favourite MJ moments was when she hit the bell at the decathlon and the camera just pushes in while she looks completely indifferent to everything going on and then delivers the winning answer.
I dunno why I liked that as much as I did but I though everything about it just worked.
I dunno why I liked that as much as I did but I though everything about it just worked.
How did the Vulture's henchman know to wait in the back parking lot for Peter? How did Ned know to get there?
My favorite Ned moment was him on the phone talking to Peter while he was at the party-- "The hat's not working!" Fedora-wearers destroyed, only minutes after having their hat-fashion inclination approved/asserted by Aunt May.
My favorite Ned moment was him on the phone talking to Peter while he was at the party-- "The hat's not working!" Fedora-wearers destroyed, only minutes after having their hat-fashion inclination approved/asserted by Aunt May.
Killa Sasa
Member
Movie was so damn good. Felt the most like a page from the good books. Some fantastic recreations
Complete bias for the character but this feels like it'll be in my top 3 for the MCU. Just a lot of fun, maybe on an island by itself that only IM3 approaches in that category.
and the Liz Allan/Toomes twist was great.
Keaton was awesome chewing everything, Holland was perfect (it got so dark in the trapped scene) and that was some bombastic shit worthy of the suit. Only thing that was a little off for me was Karen so I could take it or leave it whether she's in or not, but yes everything worked really well to me. Especially the jokes.
And that suit at the end was godlike. Also glad to see Tony happy and Pepper back even if Gwyneth is a nut.
Keaton was awesome chewing everything, Holland was perfect (it got so dark in the trapped scene) and that was some bombastic shit worthy of the suit. Only thing that was a little off for me was Karen so I could take it or leave it whether she's in or not, but yes everything worked really well to me. Especially the jokes.
And that suit at the end was godlike. Also glad to see Tony happy and Pepper back even if Gwyneth is a nut.
Complete bias for the character but this feels like it'll be in my top 3 for the MCU. Just a lot of fun, maybe on an island by itself that only IM3 approaches in that category.
MJ giving Peter the middle finger at the dance (I think it was the dance) so casually while it's slow-mo him walking inside was the best.
Also, that car ride was TENSE AS FUCK. Like damn, Keaton played a wonderful villain.
You could just tell Peter was shook after that and was running off adrenaline.
Also, that car ride was TENSE AS FUCK. Like damn, Keaton played a wonderful villain.
You could just tell Peter was shook after that and was running off adrenaline.
bodyofanamerican
Member
I thought the confidence in herself is what sold me on this interpretation of the character.
It's odd to see this be so divisive, I thought it was clear he had some kind of spider sense, he did a lot of last millisecond dodges all over the place. He's also hella inexperienced.
But I am seeing just as many people saying the film didn't show it. I think it's there, just intentionally underplayed compared to other portrayals.
It also obviously only works on actual threats, so thus no tingling when Ned or May are around.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Legit the best MCU movie, period.
I will never understand the love for most of these films - I find the majority of them boring, plodding, and hate the villains. Meh.
Iron Man 1 and GOTG2 are both very fun, good films. They stand on their own. But Homecoming stands even taller.
Easily my favorite SM right behind SM2. Funny. Great characters. Good story. Strong villain. Exceptional setting. A real adoration for the character. Good CG. Good action. Satisfying conclusion. It checks every box.
I will never understand the love for most of these films - I find the majority of them boring, plodding, and hate the villains. Meh.
Iron Man 1 and GOTG2 are both very fun, good films. They stand on their own. But Homecoming stands even taller.
Easily my favorite SM right behind SM2. Funny. Great characters. Good story. Strong villain. Exceptional setting. A real adoration for the character. Good CG. Good action. Satisfying conclusion. It checks every box.
BlazinSkatinAxel
Member
They were broken up when that happened.
I really like how they made her really likable. She's kinda the odd-ball of the group, but no one ever makes fun of her, and everyone there likes her and she likes them, too.
Like when she flipped Peter off, you totally got that it was just her playing with him and not her being a total asshole for no reason.
I don't know how to feel about Spidey using Karen and all of the Stark gadgets. It just turned him into Iron Man Lite. I'd prefer to see Spidey using his sense and intellect to solve problems, rather than having him ask Karen to do Google searches and use surveillance drones. At this point they're going to have to give him all that stuff in subsequent films.....I wish he hadn't made up with Tony so that we could at least get a sequel or two without all the advanced tech.
I know but he wasn't hoping to actually fuck Aunt May, a big part of Civil War is how broken up he is about Pepper. Dude isn't going to try and get it on with someone he doesn't know days later, he was just teasing Peter.
More_Badass
Member
My main gripe was that it was a bit hard to see what was going on during the finale, but all the other action scenes were great.
This did a better job at showing everyday ordinary life in the MCU than any of the Netflix shows.
Killa Sasa
Member
Also, the setting and casting. Phenomenal. It actually looked like these were kids, they did stupid shit like actual kids and was really good to see a diverse cast.
It's a really great moment, too. It's not just thrown in as an allusion; it's earned in the movie.
Mm. Or it might just be an inconsistency. Having characters struggle to do a physical feat that prior feats would suggest that they'd do easily because the writers decided to write it that way is Comics 101, after all.
Seductivpancakes
Member
If you mean the plane scene, I agree but than again I was watching it on 3D and that tends to darken the scene.
For those who think Tony was actually hitting on May.
https://youtu.be/xg61aQTaJGw?t=2m34s
He says the skimpy line, laughs about how inappropriate it is and then tells Peter to edit it out. Dude didn't actually think Peter was going to show her that.
What was the prior feat?
https://youtu.be/xg61aQTaJGw?t=2m34s
He says the skimpy line, laughs about how inappropriate it is and then tells Peter to edit it out. Dude didn't actually think Peter was going to show her that.
What was the prior feat?
That Dude John
Member
Man, Karen really wanted to use that INSTANT KILL mode lol
Lights and Waves
Member
Every interpretation of Spidey - comics, cartoons, films, video games - always has very distinct visual cues to indicate that his senses were warning him of danger.
Hope he develops that ability more on the sequel.
More_Badass
Member
Yeah, the plane scene
The other action was like Ultimate Spider-Man panels ripped off the pages straight onto the screen.
MugiwaraCole
Member
Anybody who thinks what Marisa Tomei is wearing in this film makes her less attractive is insane. She's still hot. You don't have to be dressed like a model to be fine, what is this?
Ned watched Peter leave and probably ran after him. And Toomes clearly knew Peter was gonna leave the dance. He had Shocker waiting for him in case he did, and was completely unsurprised when Peter showed up at the warehouse.
The finale was easily the weakest part of the movie. Too dark, too unclear, spotty editing. Spider-Man finales have always been kinda weak, though. It's rare that we really ever get to see him in a 1-on-1 slugfest with a villain, where his speed and acrobatics are really on display.