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jstripes

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You know what's really cool?

Everything you need to understand why the Earth is a globe is taught in high school science. Including experiments you can do yourself.
 
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Lurch666

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This gives me an idea.

How about we start a theory that the internet does not exist.Then all the crazy dudes like flat Earthers will jump on it and never use the internet again.
 
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DECK'ARD

The Amiga Brotherhood
Lurch666 said:
This gives me an idea.

How about we start a theory that the internet does not exist.Then all the crazy dudes like flat Earthers will jump on it and never use the internet again.
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This has actually broke my brain.

Please be more careful with your posts.
 
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Ether_Snake

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Big One said:
The Bible doesn't even teach that the Earth is flat. If the Bible DID teach that as a part of it's teachings, the "world controlling" Jews would be at the forefront of making sure their followers would believe in the flat earth theory as would the Christian and Muslim people as well.
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Er no because to them the "world controlling Jews" don't want people to believe in religion.
 
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Username1198

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Lurch666 said:
This gives me an idea.

How about we start a theory that the internet does not exist.Then all the crazy dudes like flat Earthers will jump on it and never use the internet again.
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Then explain all the series of tubes.............unless.....OMG......the tubes are actually used to transport children to mars AS SLAVES!!Holy fuck Alex jones is right it ALL makes sense!

I'm a flat earther now guys. Fight me
 
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DECK'ARD

The Amiga Brotherhood
Username1198 said:
Then explain all the series of tubes.............unless.....OMG......the tubes are actually used to transport children to mars AS SLAVES!!Holy fuck Alex jones is right it ALL makes sense!

I'm a flat earther now guys. Fight me
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See Lurch666, look what you've done. Highly irresponsible posting.
 
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SiegfriedFM

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I don't think I could get into an argument with these people without resorting to violence in frustration.

I mean, we really can't prove there's no God (at least not until we get a decent grip on more dimensions), so even though it's really obvious how the Bible (or equivalents) came to be, sure, knock yourselves out. We know that Big Bang happened but before that not even Hawking knows. I can understand that.

If you genuinely believe the Earth is flat, you should be locked up because you're dangerously insane and/or gullible. To begin with, your children need to be placed in protective custody. Even though you may not get into any trouble for this specific thing, you can be convinced to do ANYTHING.
 
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Linkstrikesback

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Verelios said:
Just answer one question...how the fuck would ballistics work if the earth was flat? Garbage theory
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Fuck you nonsense is how. That's the flat earth answer to everything, because they don't have the mathematical skills to do their times tables let alone even begin to derive equations showing how a accelerating flat earth would work.
 
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kmfdmpig

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The comment about "being special" is very telling. So many conspiracy theories seem to thrive on that idea of having "forbidden knowledge" that the "sheeple" don't have. For dumb people that's an easy way to feel smart as it takes so little effort or thought.
 
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Fergie

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As with most conspiracy theories, even showing them concrete evidence is not enough and you get responses like it's CGI. They believe they're above the so called pre-programmed learning we all know as facts. Outside of the box, outside of the norm etc.

It's mind-numbing.
 
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SMOK3Y

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Protein said:
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Lol
 
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jstripes

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andycapps said:
If you want to encounter flat-earthers in real time, go hang out on the ISS feed youtube and read the live comments. Or if you value your sanity, don't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtU_mdL2vBM

Here's one from just now
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The comments are so stupid.

"WHERE ARE ALL THE STARS?"

See how bright the Earth is? Let me introduce you to something called an aperture.

"WHERE ARE ALL THE SATELLITES?"

This isn't The Jetsons. All the satellites aren't just chilling close to each other in near orbit. They're all like 1,000km apart.
 
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Fergie

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PandaPandaPanda said:
if humanity exists in 300-500+ years, they'll probably call this the age of ignorance and or stupidity
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The flat Earth model is an archaic conception of Earth's shape as a plane or disk. Many ancient cultures subscribed to a flat Earth cosmography, including Greece until the classical period, the Bronze Age and Iron Age civilizations of the Near East until the Hellenistic period, India until the Gupta period (early centuries AD), and China until the 17th century. That paradigm was also typically held in the aboriginal cultures of the Americas, and the notion of a flat Earth domed by the firmament in the shape of an inverted bowl was common in pre-scientific societies.

The idea of a spherical Earth appeared in Greek philosophy with Pythagoras (6th century BC), although most pre-Socratics (6th – 5th century BC) retained the flat Earth model. Aristotle provided evidence for the spherical shape of the Earth on empirical grounds by around 330 BC. Knowledge of the spherical Earth gradually began to spread beyond the Hellenistic world from then on.
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The myth of the flat Earth is the modern misconception that the prevailing cosmological view during the Middle Ages in Europe was that the Earth was flat, instead of spherical.

During the early Middle Ages, virtually all scholars maintained the spherical viewpoint first expressed by the Ancient Greeks. From at least the 14th century, belief in a flat Earth among the educated was almost nonexistent, despite fanciful depictions in art, such as the exterior of Hieronymus Bosch's famous triptych The Garden of Earthly Delights, in which a disc-shaped Earth is shown floating inside a transparent sphere.

According to Stephen Jay Gould, "there never was a period of 'flat Earth darkness' among scholars (regardless of how the public at large may have conceptualized our planet both then and now). Greek knowledge of sphericity never faded, and all major medieval scholars accepted the Earth's roundness as an established fact of cosmology."[4] Historians of science David Lindberg and Ronald Numbers point out that "there was scarcely a Christian scholar of the Middle Ages who did not acknowledge [Earth's] sphericity and even know its approximate circumference".[5]

Historian Jeffrey Burton Russell says the flat-Earth error flourished most between 1870 and 1920, and had to do with the ideological setting created by struggles over biological evolution. Russell claims "with extraordinary few exceptions no educated person in the history of Western Civilization from the third century B.C. onward believed that the Earth was flat", and ascribes popularization of the flat-Earth myth to histories by John William Draper, Andrew Dickson White, and Washington Irving.[6][7][2]
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And it still continues today, even though there is irrefutable evidence that refutes flat earth theory and most of all humans actually living in space year around in the international space station.

It can be mostly distilled to people just going against the grain at all costs to feel special.
 
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norm9

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Fergie said:
And it still continues today, even though there is irrefutable evidence that refutes flat earth theory and most of all humans actually living in space year around in the international space station.

It's just distilled to people just going against the grain at all costs to feel special.
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I like this quote which many have already reiterated.

Historian Jeffrey Burton Russell says the flat-Earth error flourished most between 1870 and 1920, and had to do with the ideological setting created by struggles over biological evolution.
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Can't let religion lose its grasp on society to science.
 
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Aaronrules380

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Fergie said:
And it still continues today, even though there is irrefutable evidence that refutes flat earth theory and most of all humans actually living in space year around in the international space station.

It's just distilled to people just going against the grain at all costs to feel special.
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I mean, the people who believe in it today can hardly be called scholars either
 
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Obscura

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HStallion said:
I mean if they really want to prove gravity is fake they're free to jump off a cliff to show me so.
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They claim the Earth is accelerating upwards at a constant rate of 9.8m/s^2.

Also, I'm on mobile and don't want to deal with double quoting but it's worth pointing out the idea that people in the Middle Ages generally thought the Earth was flat is a myth. Which only makes all of this even more intensely stupid.
 
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IndoAssassin

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So then how does a weather system work? How does the coriolis effect work and the curvature you see when taking a shot over 1 mile? Have they explained earthquakes, volcanoes? geysers? how do you explain constellations and them rotating depending on the season? Or how the northern or southern hemisphere has different ones? How do you explain the super moon vs blood moon vs lunar eclipse vs solar eclipse? What about a compass? how do they explain how that works? Or the magnetosphere, or northern lights?

I got so many questions for these people? Any flat earther here?
 
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EGM1966

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We'll finally that's clear: it's just a resurface of the religious push back that occurred when science shifted Earth from being the centre of creation and the home of God's most favoured creation (humans) to a minor planet in the outer fringes of just one of many galaxies.

When I heard of flat earth believers I wondered if there was some interestingly bonkers motivation behind them but apparently not: just another generation of reality rejectors because they need to feel "special" in the eyes of their imaginary "creator".
 
LOLCats

LOLCats

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Apathy said:
I have really hated how easy the internet is to use by absolute morons and get their stupid ideas out to more morons.
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This stuff been going on long before the internet. There are several religions (if not all) that are totally batshit crazy.
 
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Username1198

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IndoAssassin said:
So then how does a weather system work? How does the coriolis effect work and the curvature you see when taking a shot over 1 mile? Have they explained earthquakes, volcanoes? geysers? how do you explain them rotating depending on the season? How do you explain the super moon vs blood moon vs lunar eclipse vs solar eclipse?

I got so many questions for these people? Any flat earther here?
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Yes. As a recently converted flat earther, I can say I don't have to explain anything to you or anyone else. I know the earth is flat because I believe it is. That's good enough. What is science anyways? It's just numbers and dumb ass big words. I can provide proof if you give me a second.

Edit: here's proof. Prove me wrong I dare you

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=242949427
 
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RageWaffles

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”The heliocentric model says that we're spinning at 1,038 mph. They say you won't notice it because it's a continual motion. But you should be able to feel it. You shouldn't be able to function allegedly spinning that fast."
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Not only are these poor souls hopelessly stupid, they've apparently never even been in a vehicle or on a horse.
 
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Tylercrat

Banned
Username1198 said:
Yes. As a recently converted flat earther, I can say I don't have to explain anything to you or anyone else. I know the earth is flat because I believe it is. That's good enough. What is science anyways? It's just numbers and dumb ass big words. I can provide proof if you give me a second.

Edit: here's proof. Prove me wrong I dare you

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=242949427
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Yeah, what is science? Is that like medicine or technology or something?
 
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Xe4

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MHWilliams said:
Again, providing folks with facts and reasoned discussion doesn't always work, otherwise Flat Earthers wouldn't exist.
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True, but not much does work to change their minds. If yelling at them, or shaming them, or shaking my head in disgust worked instead, I would do that. Providing facts and reasoned discussion won't ever change those peoples minds, but it will provide those "on the fence" with more evidence to end up on the side with the evidence supporting it.

For something like flat earth theory, it's not entirely important (though surprisingly, there still are people on the fence), but for something like vaccines, or AGW, or evolution, it's critical.
 
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StoneFox

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I don't understand what beef people have with NASA. It's just scientists and engineers who are on a mission to learn new things about the universe. :p
 
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HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
Xe4 said:
True, but not much does work to change their minds. If yelling at them, or shaming them, or shaking my head in disgust worked instead, I would do that. Providing facts and reasoned discussion won't ever change those peoples minds, but it will provide those "on the fence" with more evidence to end up on the side with the evidence supporting it.

For something like flat earth theory, it's not entirely important (though surprisingly, there still are people on the fence), but for something like vaccines, or AGW, or evolution, it's critical.
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I've found full belly shaking laughter often works well enough.
 
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UtterlyPerplexed

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Only with the flat earth theory would you subscribe to the idea that every government, NGO, IO, etc. are in cahoots to orchestrate and perpetuate this grandest lie to have ever been exercised on all of humanity. That is some mad teamwork. Oh, and every government is conveniently also preventing these brave, intrepid flat earthers from reaching and scaling the wall of ice that supposedly surrounds this disc.
 
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L Thammy

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What always gets me about these people is that belief in a round earth is old. Really really old. Like, I'm pretty even Jesus believed in a round earth.
 
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StoneFox

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L Thammy said:
What always gets me about these people is that belief in a round earth is old. Really really old. Like, I'm pretty even Jesus believed in a round earth.
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It's not even "belief" that is old, it's the science backing up Earth's roundness that is old. The Greeks used the sun's positioning with some math equations and got really close at predicting the accurate size of the planet. Flat Earth was never actually a belief in scholarly circles because you would be cited as an idiot. And the internet is the perfect foundations for idiots to gain a voice.
 
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