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So I assume the Blu-ray/DVD for Kekkai Sensen contains the last episode that was delayed.
Specifically mentioning the Funimation release.
Specifically mentioning the Funimation release.
So I assume the Blu-ray/DVD for Kekkai Sensen contains the last episode that was delayed.
Specifically mentioning the Funimation release.
So I assume the Blu-ray/DVD for Kekkai Sensen contains the last episode that was delayed.
Specifically mentioning the Funimation release.
Yeah, I know, but I want to see a Blu-ray release from Funi. Aren't streaming rights and DVD/Blu-ray totally different?
but e7 only got good when it got to AO.
What even is this show.
Aoyama-kun 01
What even is this show.
Now there's an old face!
Plot twist!!!! OH my, that came out of left field!!!!
I knew it: I knew the moment they ever decided to make an anime it would star a shit male squid (most likely an Ash-type protagonist) instead of the Squid Sisters, or even the vastly superior female designed squids.
Can't wait for this shit to have no idea how to play the game but constantly make speeches how he wants to be the very best.
Probably? Isnt that the reason why Macross is a nightmare? I assume its the same with stuff like Idolm@ster and Love Live. Extremely popular but song/seiyuu licenses are not even worth attempting to deal with
I am just waiting for a ARMS anime because the main character would be Mechanica.
C'mon Nintendo.
Harima you idiot!
I feel like any new Nintendo anime adaptions will borrow heavily from the Pokémon/Shonen formula of "main character who sucks really, really hard at their job".
Link keeps getting his sword stuck on trees. Mario keeps landing on Toad. Marth needs entire lectures on what a "war" is.
It's totally not relatable if the hero is cool and competent! /s
Welcome to the Ballroom 2
As much as people were justifiably bothered by that 2-second portion of a montage in Made in Abyss's second episode, I am more bothered by how this episode opened on an obnoxiously drawn out breast bouncing gag and then ended its first half on an "accidental pervert" gag featuring a pan over Shizuku in her underwear. I get that this sort of loving portrayal of adolescent male lust is par for the course in standard shounen manga, but it's still really annoying to see, especially when emphasized in animated form. I am long, long past finding these jokes funny. As I don't find the show particularly impressive overall, despite the amount of effort that's going into the character art and Mukouda's impressively stylized dancing animation, I am not sure that I can continue watching this.
I haven't watched Made in Abyss just yet so I can't comment on that but I did roll my eyes at the changing room scene in Welcome to the Ballroom. One observation I have though is I wonder why are these two shows in particular coming under so much scrutiny right now from long time thread members over what I think is, at most, a few seconds of questionable content. Is it because the source material is of such a high standard that you were expecting it to be better and rise above the usual level of pandering or is it that at some point after being exposed for so long some of you simply start thinking that enough is enough? Because I'll be honest, this type of shit is so ever-present in the medium of anime that if one slight instance of it in a show you were hyped about is enough to start putting you off from watching further then at that point, why keep watching anime at all?
I haven't watched Made in Abyss just yet so I can't comment on that but I did roll my eyes at the changing room scene in Welcome to the Ballroom. One observation I have though is I wonder why are these two shows in particular coming under so much scrutiny right now from long time thread members over what I think is, at most, a few seconds of questionable content. Is it because the source material is of such a high standard that you were expecting it to be better and rise above the usual level of pandering or is it that at some point after being exposed for so long some of you simply start thinking that enough is enough? Because I'll be honest, this type of shit is so ever-present in the medium of anime that if one slight instance of it in a show you were hyped about is enough to start putting you off from watching further then at that point, why keep watching anime at all?
I haven't watched Made in Abyss just yet so I can't comment on that but I did roll my eyes at the changing room scene in Welcome to the Ballroom. One observation I have though is I wonder why are these two shows in particular coming under so much scrutiny right now from long time thread members over what I think is, at most, a few seconds of questionable content. Is it because the source material is of such a high standard that you were expecting it to be better and rise above the usual level of pandering or is it that at some point after being exposed for so long some of you simply start thinking that enough is enough? Because I'll be honest, this type of shit is so ever-present in the medium of anime that if one slight instance of it in a show you were hyped about is enough to start putting you off from watching further then at that point, why keep watching anime at all?
Lodoss is a product if it's time albeit an influential one but I always felt like western appeal was about the novelty of how well fantasy elements could be brought to life in anime despite the story quality. I love it to death but the bog standard description used in here is rather apt. It's really rpgish too since it was based off d&d sessions and the staff wantrd to keep that in tact according to the short docu on the first NA release. It does pick up as it goes along but not too much further really.Record of the Lodoss War 1-5
Detailed character designs with actual noses are all fine and dandy but when even a set of OVAs becomes more a collection of stills than animation, you've gotta ask yourself "Maybe we're actually better off with SAO ?" The action in this is tepid at best of times and rife with all manner of shortcuts; stills, close ups, panning away to audience, flashes of sword strokes, down to even reusing animation cuts or even funnier, reusing stills. The story doesn't impress, there's some okayish intrigue in the background but the way the Hero team comes together can only be spoken of as farfetched. Until much later most of these people didn't even have a reason to follow the MC, the elf lady still doesn't.
This is why I stick with bad shit as I forever hunt diamonds in the rough.Very few shows legitimately get better as they go along. The trend usually is a strong start that spirals into a mess.
Lodoss is a product if it's time albeit an influential one but I always felt like western appeal was about the novelty of how well fantasy elements could be brought to life in anime despite the story quality. I love it to death but the bog standard description used in here is rather apt. It's really rpgish too since it was based off d&d sessions and the staff wantrd to keep that in tact according to the short docu on the first NA release. It does pick up as it goes along but not too much further really.
The book is finally getting an English translation this year so excited to see what sort of adaptation differences exist on my end.
I have no idea what the overarching plot is, what are the characters', good and bad guys, motives or where this is going, but it's fun. I need more yandere, she's amazing.
I don't think you can compare the two things.I think "It gets good much later." is a terrible reasoning to give someone to watch something when we see the large amount of people here dropping shows 1.5 episodes into the series.
I think the level of quality is very relevant. Both Made in Abyss and Welcome to the Ballroom seem to be a cut above typical anime drivel, and it shows. They have pretty decent production values. They have unique settings/stories to tell. So when they get bogged down by completely low-class, unnecessary scenes like that, its very noticeable, and disappointing.
And its a shame, because in both cases, those scenes could have been cut entirely and nothing would have changed plot wise, yet the episode would have been so much better for it.
Honestly Ballroom isn't even that good.
Honestly Ballroom isn't even that good.
I dont know and also think its too early to say MiA and Ballroom are somehow above typical dungeon based exploration manga or high school extracurricular boys manga series in a popular magazine.
Honestly Ballroom isn't even that good.
And that's not counting the sensual element of the dance. Part of their job is to be sexy.
I think the level of quality is very relevant. Both Made in Abyss and Welcome to the Ballroom seem to be a cut above typical anime drivel, and it shows. They have pretty decent production values. They have unique settings/stories to tell. So when they get bogged down by completely low-class, unnecessary scenes like that, its very noticeable, and disappointing.
And its a shame, because in both cases, those scenes could have been cut entirely and nothing would have changed plot wise, yet the episode would have been so much better for it.
I don't know that Welcome to the Ballroom is coming under special scrutiny; I'm the only one I've seen complain about this so far. As far as Made in Abyss goes, the reason that show is receiving so much scrutiny is because ever since the anime announcement there's been a lot of warnings over the manga's sexualized violence involving children, so any whiff of that in the anime is going to send up huge red flags for a lot of people.
Now as you say, there is a lot of sexually provocative material of varying degrees of intensity in anime. Sometimes I am willing to overlook that if the rest of the material is good enough to keep my interest. In Ballroom's case I'm not sure the rest of the material is that good. Still, as typical of the medium as it is, it's not as if indulgence of adolescent male lust is present in every anime; there's plenty of anime I can watch with none of that. So even I wanted to completely avoid it, I don't think I would be required to stop watching anime. I'm certainly not going to stop wrestling with these issues when I feel like they detract from a work, as someone who desires to be responsible with myself when I partake of entertainment.
Here's the answer for me, at least: I believe this thread should always be useful as a tool for people who are just casually interested in anime/the current season of anime. There are always people new to the medium for whom this could be their first season that they're following shows as they air. I feel like it's my duty to give these people fair warning of the kind of content they could be experiencing in their shows. It's very easy to become desensitized to the problematic elements present in some (but not all) anime productions, but I think it's important to try and come at an anime with a fresh perspective to help better serve this audience.
The alternative is that someone hears the glowing praise around, say, Made in the Abyss, and as a result they decide to check out the show for themselves. They will then surely run into the objectionable material and wonder why no-one in the thread even thought it was worth mentioning? They'd have to assume we're just a bunch of very insular anime fans who aren't bothered by scenes which are clearly objectionable. I'd rather try and prevent such a thing from occurring.
Now, that's just my own take on the matter and I certainly don't see it as anyone else's responsibility to point out these issues when they comment on a show. But I feel the need to flag up these things, especially when it occurs in relation to a series that could have some mainstream appeal.
Why do they still call them simuldubs then.
Why do they still call them simuldubs then.
Things are getting potentially co-
Honestly Ballroom isn't even that good.
Ballroom is a bit different. From my perspective (manga reader), I consider Ballroom as 'sexy'. All the characters happen to be young and attractive, some of them are especially charged up sexually, and there is fanservice scenes for both sexes.
And that's not counting the sensual element of the dance. Part of their job is to be sexy.
Hell one of the accomplishments of the comic is how high is the sexual tension despiteSo yeah, there will be more scenes like this, including an onsen scene.having zero sexual stuff in reality, for now. Just using the eyes in the key moments.
There is subtle difference here. I actively dislike fanservice, but one thing is fanservice, and another a story with sensual characters. It can be hard to differentiate. It depends a lot of how to present things, if with attractiveness as a natural, positive quality in a cohesive setting and tone in the story, or in the other hand they just put a character with fantasy clothes that happen to be super revealing, or put a robot cat girl with lots of curves in a story that doesn't have anything to do with that because it's really a mystery scifi story, or make the typical gainax bounce, etc. Having a good, attractive, admirable but still realistic character design also helps.
But then again, if the content in contention regarding Made in Abyss was a known quantity by people familiar with the source material from the start then I feel like it becomes a case of idontknowwhatiexpected.gif, IMO.
I'd also like to point out that I hope you don't take umbrage with my offhand semi-rambling comment. Of course one is free to enjoy watching anime for whatever reason they so prefer and likewise find issues with it based on their own personal values so I apologize if I came across too standoffish or whatever.