Matt and Jessica say hi.
Even as a straight guy/comedic foil they didn't work for me. They never had any meaningful scenes together.
What was great about it? It was generic in that it served to only let you know she's PI. That's the cliche thing a PI does in shows:I disagree. For example, I thought the scene where Matt and Jessica went off to interview the architect's daughter leading into the bit where Jessica revealed she knew about Matt's past was great. It all comes down to subjectivity, I guess.
What was great about it? It was generic in that it served to only let you know she's PI. That's the cliche thing a PI does in shows:
"How'd you know?"
"PI"
The charm comes from the actors and not the script.
I believe the extent of it was the strength and durability increase she got similar to Luke Cage, and Jessica Jones. And the whole black sky prophecy was never explained outside of Alexandria making it up, and they didn't developer her either. So it was all meaningless in a way.
They never explained the heartbeat in relation to the other Hand members. In DD, they were able to mask it, but it sounded like it was from training, not because they were dead. The memories were deliberately wiped, at least that is what Alexandria said.
We never really saw Luke get hurt with any of their hits. The only time he knocked out was after stick drugged him, and was hit in the head by super powered Electra.
The dragon bones can be ground down to make the resurrection substance. They probably knew what was down there due to being around when the city was built, but this was never explained. It was never fully explained, but the removing of the bones would break the foundation of the city causing it to collapse. It was implied that all of the other fallen cities met with natural disasters because the dragon bones were removed. The why is not delved into too much. Maybe we will get some better writing in IF 2.
Just immortality and running the world. Some of them wanted to get back to Kun Lun, how they would achieve that is never explained. Show was super vague and poorly constructed around the hand.
The ninjas were mostly killed off during Daredevil season 2. They ran out of the resurrection substance. Plus Nobu headed the ninja portion of the hand under Murakami. Murakami was implied to attack directly when he was involved. So maybe they can bring the ninjas back later on because they were not involved. Either way, it was most likely due to budget. The same reason we did not get Punisher mowing down a 100 of them with a mini-gun at the end of DD S2. Better writing could have fixed a lot with this show and the lack of a budget.
Damn, this place is really down on this show.
I thoroughly enjoyed the show. Plot was decent enough, action was good for the most part, characterizations were solid, and pacing was great outside of a couple spots.
It's not going to win any awards but it was good.
Yeah, the Hate Train is strong on this site lately. I understand the hate for Iron Fist season 1 and the second half of Luke Cage, but completely disagree with the hate Jessica Jones and Daredevil Season 2 gets here.
It isn't hate, it's a different opinion.Yeah, the Hate Train is strong on this site lately. I understand the hate for Iron Fist season 1 and the second half of Luke Cage, but completely disagree with the hate Jessica Jones and Daredevil Season 2 gets here.
Yeah, the Hate Train is strong on this site lately. I understand the hate for Iron Fist season 1 and the second half of Luke Cage, but completely disagree with the hate Jessica Jones and Daredevil Season 2 gets here.
After sleeping on this I still like the show, but honestly I think this shows biggest mistake was either not having the budget or the planning to actually make this an action show. You have a show about vigilante crime fighters and we only got a couple of action set pieces in the entire thing. DD and JJ are consistently the most liked Netflix shows because they actually fit their genre. DD an action show and JJ a crime investigation with occasional action sequences. Defenders needed to be an action show.
Damn, this place is really down on this show.
For real.The show has its issues but you have to admit Luke bursting through that door at the end of episode 3 was hype as fuck.
After reading through some of this thread I think I'll just skip this along with Cage and Jones' shows.
Yeah, the Hate Train is strong on this site lately.
Yeah, I was really disappointed in this. I really liked DD, JJ, and LC (haven't seen IF), but this just felt too much like a forced attempt at making a super awesome team-up special, that just largely felt unearned and unnecessary. A big problem with this show is that half the cast didn't relate much to the supernatural aspects seen in DD and IF, and not to mention the stylistic, tonal, and character personalities differing between each of the shows. It was incredibly difficult sitting through scenes where Danny, Matt, and Stick have to explain what the Hand and immortality are to Jessica and Luke, because they come from shows that don't deal with that in any tangible way at all. Yes, I understand they tried circumventing that by having characters say "well, you're bulletproof, you don't believe in this other stuff?". But that doesn't revolve the differing styles and tones from different tv shows.
I feel this show should have come after another season of the four other shows, where they could properly develop the Hand and the more supernatural elements in each of them. Because this was just a rushed mess that tried way too hard in forcing the team-up to be a thing. Because this is what happens when you rush into event shows. There were a few good moments, like the fight with all them together for the first time--and Sigourney Weaver was largely great--but by and large, I just didn't enjoy myself with this. And that bums me out. I was rooting for them.
Villains should have been Fisk using the Hand in order to bring back Killgrave for his powers.
plot holes
I feel this show should have come after another season of the four other shows, where they could properly develop the Hand and the more supernatural elements in each of them.
what were the plot holes?
I enjoyed the show, but it went out of its way to laboriously explain what was happening through exposition and repetition because it was obviously afraid its audience were dicking around on their phone and not paying proper attention.
Way too many. I probably posted a dozen yesterday, based on what, two episodes.
Jokes on the people that didn't like it, they wasted 8 hours of their life plus whatever time they've spent whining about it online
how does Jessica not get one shotted by ninjas? main character armor not withstanding.
She felt waaay out of her league. I didn't watch her show. Is she strong? She showed flashes of it but it felt like her power came and went at any time. Does she not like to use her strength? What's going on.
Oh don't get me wrong. They totally botched the Hand in DD, but they could have done a better job with how they incorporated that into the other shows. My point was that they didn't take the steps to bring the other characters into the fold. They sort of just chucked them into the deep end. And they sank.Nah, the Hand had its chance to be properly developed. Hopefully we can stay very away from that for a looooong time, if not forever.
I-its not like I like the Black Sky or anything!
Shes slightly stronger than Luke and can fly (or at least jump really high). Shes also got snark powers.