Agent_Carnage
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Lebron is still a goner next season. This trade changes nothing.
Unless they flip the BKN pick for a vet he's gone and Cleveland knows it. They are preparing for the post-LeBron era.
The craziest part of this trade is that I can see a scenario where Bron stays now. Love + the BKN pick gives the Cavs ton of flexibility in landing a huge piece, one that might convince both Bron and IT to re-up next Summer.
2k better change their cover.
It's lit
He didn't like Kyrie and they upgraded their team drastically. Why would this make him more likely to leave?
more likely to stay now, actually.
Come on.Crowder for Kyrie straight up barely seems like a good deal for Boston.
Lebron is still a goner next season. This trade changes nothing.
Kyrie isn't that good.
We coming in with the fuego takes now, wew ladYeah its hilarious this is the Kyrie - IT deal when Crowder is the best player in the deal
more likely to stay now, actually.
I just don't think there's a team that could be built there that could entice him to stay, honestly. And Dan Gilbert's still there.
But if IT goes somewhere else in free agency (which is a big possibility) then they could sign someone that could convince Bron to stay.
Plus that Nets pick could be top 3. This offseason proved that anything can happen but I'd be surprised if he stayed.
Am I missing something? This trade is ridiculously one-sided in favor of the Cavs.
packages, trades, and cap space my good man.Why? IT and Crowder aren't getting the Cavs over the Warriors and the 18 pick would need a few years to pan out.
Come on.
Kyrie is the best at the rim finisher in NBA history. He's a top 10 talent for sure.
The pick is definitely a high addition but it's something Cleveland desperately needs considering Bron is gone next year. It's really hard to say without seeing some of the other deals on the table. Boston might have had to pay 'extra' because they're conference rivals.
Come on.
Kyrie is the best at the rim finisher in NBA history. He's a top 10 talent for sure.
Because they're comparable offensive players and playmakers, with Kyrie still young enough where he has the potential to get even better, and even if he's not a good defender himself, a below average defender at PG is still better than the worst defensive player in the NBA.How is Kyrie clearly better than IT?
We coming in with the fuego takes now, wew lad
Come on.
Kyrie is the best at the rim finisher in NBA history. He's a top 10 talent for sure.
Because they're comparable offensive players and playmakers, with Kyrie still young enough where he has the potential to get even better, and even if he's not a good defender himself, a below average defender at PG is still better than the worst defensive player in the NBA.
What does Woj have to say about this?
Am I missing something? This trade is ridiculously one-sided in favor of the Cavs.
I'm just sitting here staring at Garpax.
How does this fair against Golden State?
That would be a dumb reason to pay extra. Kyrie is nice, really good even, but he's not an elite/franchise player. All the reports that Ainge was super resistant to giving up the BKN pick for PG or Butler (superior players to Kyrie) yet includes it AND IT here is sort of baffling. I mean, for a team with a shot at the Finals now, would you rather have 1 year of IT and one year of George, 1 year of IT and 2 years of Jimmy, or just Kyrie?
How does this fair against Golden State?
He ain't waiting on a rookie. Might as well go chase a ring. It's totally cool now.He's why LeBron would leave, but that doesn't change the fact that this trade makes him more likely to stay. You could say he's still going to leave, but that doesn't mean the trade makes him more likely to leave.
Because they're comparable offensive players and playmakers, with Kyrie still young enough where he has the potential to get even better, and even if he's not a good defender himself, a below average defender at PG is still better than the worst defensive player in the NBA.
Playoff Kyrie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Playoff IT
i'm not even sure that The nets are the worst team in east atm, but damn unprotected
i guess the C's have to grab a breathin big body somewhere now
Are you drinking paint? What am I readingOh my no the Hawks are much worse than the Nets.
But this is a 5 player draft and the Nets are a bottom 5 team.
The pick means this trade favors the Cavs overall, but Kyrie is a better player than Thomas and I don't think Crowder is good enough to balance that out. I've never liked Crowder.IT isn't an old man. The Brooklyn pick makes no sense, and certifies this deal as awful.
IT is a better first option than a guy who was a first to LeBron.
Playoff Kyrie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Playoff IT