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[CornBurrito]

We doing spoilers?

Episode 9 spoilers:

I need

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Caroline and Ralph to get back together... that fucking episode.

 

[TurnipFritters]

Episode 11's spin on

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the "one week later"/"one month later"/etc cards we've seeing all season was really heartbreaking, but i feel like it would have been better if it had used them to flash backwards too.

 

[Primus]

Just cleared 9, and I had to turn off the TV 'cause I couldn't take it anymore. I think that ending did actual damage to me.

 

[CornBurrito]

Episode 10 spoilers...

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Fuck fuck fuck... this show

I thought this season had a pretty eh episode 1 but everything else has been pretty great. Goddamn it Beatrice.

 

[IronLich]

I loved Episode 6's opening.

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These are cookies. This is not breakfast. You are eating cookies. Stop it. Stop eating cookies and go make yourself breakfast.

I can't look at cookies the same way again.

And I also love all of the colorful drawings that represent Bojack's inner thoughts.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Feel like that should be the end

Ridiculous. There has never been a show literally ever that more accurately captures contemporary American life. We need it to be made for as long as its creators are alive.

 

[Alcotholic]

Ridiculous. There has never been a show literally ever that more accurately captures contemporary American life. We need it to be made for as long as its creators are alive.

I think its best for a work like this to be short and concise. If they drag it on for 10 or 11 seasons, it would become a parody of itself. It would be a show where we all complain that it's not as good as it once was- the first few seasons are the only ones worth watching- they ran out of ideas in the later seasons, etc. The essence it captures will always be relevant. This is a show that will be considered an essential viewing and remembered for a long time as long as it doesn't outstay its welcome.

Plus Netflix doesn't get money from ad revenue. So the number of people doesn't matter as much as the number of subscribers. There is no reason for them to keep producing a show for so long.
I would much rather have the show be short and amazing than long and slowly burn out and lose interest.

 

[vypek]

What a ride. Incredible season.

It's a bit harder to recall what people are talking about on episode numbers since I didn't really pause too much to see and it's kind of all run together.


Episode 12(?)

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I sort of got part of the secret language the dads were speaking but not everything that was said.
Might need to rewatch.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

I think its best for a work like this to be short and concise. If they drag it on for 10 or 11 seasons, it would become a parody of itself. It would be a show where we all complain that it's not as good as it once was- the first few seasons are the only ones worth watching- they ran out of ideas in the later seasons, etc. The essence it captures will always be relevant. This is a show that will be considered an essential viewing and remembered for a long time as long as it doesn't outstay its welcome.

Plus Netflix doesn't get money from ad revenue. So the number of people doesn't matter as much as the number of subscribers. There is no reason for them to keep producing a show for so long.
I would much rather have the show be short and amazing than long and slowly burn out and lose interest.

Where is the evidence that it would become a parody of itself. There's literally none, since this latest season was clearly their best. Mathematically, your hypothesis has no basis in anything but cynicism.

 

[99Luffy]

Only way they top this is if next season they kill off Mr. Peanutbutter or Todd.

 

[ForkNetwork]

Where is the evidence that it would become a parody of itself. There's literally none, since this latest season was clearly their best. Mathematically, your hypothesis has no basis in anything but cynicism.

Do you know any show that has stayed good after seven or eight seasons? I know a couple, but aside from House and The Simpsons I would struggle to think of any

 

[JoJoShabadoo]

Mathematically, your hypothesis has no basis in anything but cynicism.

This post has Neogaf written all over it haha.

 

[Alcotholic]

Where is the evidence that it would become a parody of itself. There's literally none, since this latest season was clearly their best. Mathematically, your hypothesis has no basis in anything but cynicism.

Its about a Horse who starred in 90s sitcom called Horsing Around whose main purpose was to run as long as possible just to produce ad revenue. But instead of making ad revenue for Netflix its just running as long as it can.
Please name a show that has lasted 10+ seasons and has deep dramatic plotlines that hasn't taken some sort of critical decline.
They would be beating a dead horse at that point (pun intended).
It would be a parody of itself.

 

[CornBurrito]

Finished.

Thought I'd be getting tired of this show especially since I thought season 3 was hitting too many of the same notes as S1 and S2, but worse. But S4 was amazing. A very enjoyable ride and now I need S5.

The only episode I really dislike this season was episode 1.

 

[CornBurrito]

Do you know any show that has stayed good after seven or eight seasons? I know a couple, but aside from House and The Simpsons I would struggle to think of any

House became utter garbage lol.

I think the difference (and this is just optimism) is that you don't need to fight for higher and higher ratings. House introduced plots it didn't need to maintain and grab more ratings. Netflix doesn't seem to care as much. I mean they gave F is for Family a 2nd season. Hopefully that means the Bojack writers don't go off the walls.

And also since Bojack is supposed to improve (and he truly has in S4), there'll be a clear end. And the characters might be less prone to flanderization since they can't remain the same.

 

[TurnipFritters]

Finished.

Thought I'd be getting tired of this show especially since I thought season 3 was hitting too many of the same notes as S1 and S2, but worse. But S4 was amazing. A very enjoyable ride and now I need S5.

The only episode I really dislike this season was episode 1.

Episode 1 felt like a lot of it was hastily written to parallel CURRENT EVENTS.

 

[CornBurrito]

I think episode 9 of S4 might be one of the best episodes of the show across all the current seasons. Episode 11 is also very high up there.

edit: On second thought, S4E2 also competes with S4E9. S4E11 can take a top 10 spot.

 

[Alcotholic]

House became utter garbage lol.

I think the difference (and this is just optimism) is that you don't need to fight for higher and higher ratings. House introduced plots it didn't need to maintain and grab more ratings. Netflix doesn't seem to care as much. I mean they gave F is for Family a 2nd season. Hopefully that means the Bojack writers don't go off the walls.

And also since Bojack is supposed to improve (and he truly has in S4), there'll be a clear end. And the characters might be less prone to flanderization since they can't remain the same.

I might add that there would be nothing wrong if there was a Bojack Spinoff show. I would welcome it with open arms.
I just imagine that the creators have a story to tell with Bojack and want to keep it to just that.
Gravity Falls was just 2 seasons even though the creator could have made it longer. He just felt like he told the story exactly how he wanted it to be and I really respect that.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

I really hope the first few episodes aren't an indicator for the season as a whole.

Episode 1: Bad
Episode 2: Really good, until that ending. Didn't like the resolution for Bojack suddenly coming back.
Episode 3: Bad

Number 1 complaint so far? Not enough Bojack, too much Todd.

 

[CornBurrito]

I really hope the first few episodes aren't an indicator for the season as a whole.

Episode 1: Bad
Episode 2: Really good, until that ending. Didn't like the resolution for Bojack suddenly coming back.
Episode 3: Bad

Number 1 complaint so far? Not enough Bojack, too much Todd.

If you didn't care for episode 2 I don't think you'll enjoy this show any more.

I consider S4E2 one of the best episodes of the show.

S4E1 is legit bad. S4E3 is w/e.

Idk keep giving it more episodes. But I thought S4E2 was near perfect. And I consider S4 the best season, even with two very weak episodes (1 and 3). S3 had more weak/bad episodes imo.

 

[Yeef]

I find it amusing that Jessica Biel was willing to be so self-effacing. Bielist.

 

[Mike M]

I actually really liked episode 1. The governor was the perfect foil for the surreal absurdism of the show, earnestly trying to help people and not get side tracked by PB's idiocy until he couldn't ignore it.

That, and guess given name is Woodcharles.

The episode did feel like a whole season's PB/Todd arc in a single episode, though.

 

[Shaanyboi]

Finished. Probably my favorite season. The episode 11 was a fucking nightmare.

 

[CornBurrito]

Didn't know that the song in E2 was written/exclusive for the show. Jesus that's a good song.

 

[Herr Schwarz]

Yeah, definitely a much more upbeat season of Bojack that's for sure. Not much time wallowing, or at least Bojacks wallowing was balanced nicely with other story arcs. In fact most of the depressing stuff was balanced nicely in general. As opposed to last season which felt much more of a downer so that's good.

Didn't really feel like he was grieving for Sarah Lynn all that much, but I guess he was out for a year.

Feel bad for Diane, I have a girl pal who is in a similiar situation, feels too much of a shitty person in cutting their boyfriend loose, because he is such a great guy which he is.

 

[RespectThySole]

Bojack Horseman is one of my favorite TV shows of all time.

As far as animated shows go, it's probably my #2 at this point after Futurama.

I loved this season. Only misstep was episode 1.

 

[TurnipFritters]

Didn't know that the song in E2 was written/exclusive for the show. Jesus that's a good song.

...A Horse With No Name?

Edit: Oh wait, the one with the piano. Nevermind, I got you.

 

[Adam_Roman]

Episodes 6 and 11 deserve to be nominated for an Emmy. I love what 11 does for the show as a whole but I feel like 6 might be one of my favorite episodes of a TV show overall.

 

[HariKari]

Didn't know that the song in E2 was written/exclusive for the show. Jesus that's a good song.

It's a song from the 70s.

 

[BladeoftheImmortal]

It's a song from the 70s.

The song his grandma sang.

 

[TheGreatDirector]

Episodes 6 and 11 deserve to be nominated for an Emmy. I love what 11 does for the show as a whole but I feel like 6 might be one of my favorite episodes of a TV show overall.

11 was crafted perfectly.

 

[SalvaPot]

The ending of episode 9 kicked me in the balls and called me an asshole.

 

[Pancakes]

Episode 9 is just...wow.

 

[99Luffy]

Disappointed theres no bojack figurines available, aside from the funkopop ones.

 

[Astral Dog]

This season was more funny overall, with one specific storyline being heavy.but solid i liked 3 more

We doing spoilers?

Episode 9 spoilers:

I need

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Caroline and Ralph to get back together... that fucking episode.

I was hoping for PC and the Rabbit 🐰 whatever name he had.

Clear they were never going to work

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

Diane/Mr. PB, finale:

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I think what really did it was the fact that Mr. PB revealed that none of the books were real. It was bad enough that he just "did it" for Diane, but then he has to go and make the entire room fake?

 

[SalvaPot]

Just done with the season. I have to say, I love that

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the show ended in a lighter tone. I really enjoyed how BoJack actually improved this season, while still been true to himself. Also I liked her mother and her whole story. I have mixed feelings about the Diane and Mr. Peanutbutter arc, but they usually surprise me so I'll give it a go. Also I have to say I feel Todd works better with BoJack, now that he has his own plot-line it doesn't feel as interesting. He really works best when he shares storylines with others. Princess C.
storyline was really good, but kind of felt it died with her fetus, and I am not sure how to feel about her replacing it with a script that seems to be bad. Guess time will tell.

All in all, great season, can't wait for S5!

 

[Veelk]

Okay, so am I the only on who couldn't laugh at the political antics of Mr. Peanutbutter?

The humor itself was fine and as well written as usual about this show, but the entire gag of a incompetent, populist idiot usurping a governmental system while the benevolent and competent politician trying to do right by people who turn on him for petty reasons can't do anything just hit way too close to home.

I don't even see it as a fault of the show. It's just hard to laugh when that thing is happening in real life to tragic consequences.

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I actually let out a sigh of relief when Woodchuck ended up winning.

 

[LotusHD]

Okay, so am I the only on who couldn't laugh at the political antics of Mr. Peanutbutter?

The humor itself was fine and as well written as usual about this show, but the entire gag of a incompetent, likable idiot usurping a governmental system while the benevolent and competent politician trying to do right by people who turn on him for petty reasons just hit way too close to home.

I don't even see it as a fault of the show. It's just hard to laugh when that thing is happening in real life to tragic consequences.

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I actually let out a sigh of relief when Woodchuck ended up winning.

I chuckled here and there (The ski race for example). Honestly outside of the first episode, the obvious Trump parallels didn't weight heavily on my mind to my surprise. Probably helped that Mr. Peanutbutter is actually likable (He is a good boy after all), as well as the fact that they had already planned on doing this subplot before the election happened. My primary issue with the subplot was that I merely wished it was a bit shorter, and that Katrina was very annoying, though I suppose that's the point.

 

[Berserker976]

I noticed something going back to season 3. Early on there's a throwaway line from Mr. Peanutbutter when he gets skunked:

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"We're like 5 big fights away from a divorce"

I'm wondering if that was some really clever foreshadowing or a coincidence.

Also, in less uncertain foreshadowing,

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when Bojack and Diane visit the county courthouse in EP 9 to get Hollyhock's birth certificate Diane is very clearly standing under the "Divorces" window in the first shot.

 

[Kenstar]

It reminded me of the Rural Juror episode of 30 Rock: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6YDyjOimInA

The Rule Jurr?

 

[Veelk]

I chuckled here and there (The ski race for example). Honestly outside of the first episode, the obvious Trump parallels didn't weight heavily on my mind to my surprise. Probably helped that Mr. Peanutbutter is actually likable (He is a good boy after all), as well as the fact that they had already planned on doing this subplot before the election happened. My primary issue with the subplot was that I merely wished it was a bit shorter, and that Katrina was very annoying, though I suppose that's the point.

Yeah, it's weird to say, but the jokes were funny, I just wasn't able to laugh at them too much. I don't find fault with the show. It's just a wrong time, wrong place sort of thing.

 

[MMarston]

Only way they top this is if next season they kill off Mr. Peanutbutter or Todd.

If they kill Todd, I'm so fucking done with this show.

Okay, so am I the only on who couldn't laugh at the political antics of Mr. Peanutbutter?

The humor itself was fine and as well written as usual about this show, but the entire gag of a incompetent, populist idiot usurping a governmental system while the benevolent and competent politician trying to do right by people who turn on him for petty reasons can't do anything just hit way too close to home.

I don't even see it as a fault of the show. It's just hard to laugh when that thing is happening in real life to tragic consequences.

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I actually let out a sigh of relief when Woodchuck ended up winning.

Yeah, this was me. Of course it was exaggerated, but the meta commentary in the dialogue was getting a little too real for me as well. I enjoy Andre Braugher though, especially since he's totally channeling his Captain Holt stuff.

 

[LotusHD]

Yeah, it's weird to say, but the jokes were funny, I just wasn't able to laugh at them too much. I don't find fault with the show. It's just a wrong time, wrong place sort of thing.

Yea I definitely get that.

 

[hughesta]

Best season yet. Episode 11 is a masterpiece and I cried.

 

[FlutterPuffs]

Okay, so am I the only on who couldn't laugh at the political antics of Mr. Peanutbutter?

The humor itself was fine and as well written as usual about this show, but the entire gag of a incompetent, populist idiot usurping a governmental system while the benevolent and competent politician trying to do right by people who turn on him for petty reasons can't do anything just hit way too close to home.

I don't even see it as a fault of the show. It's just hard to laugh when that thing is happening in real life to tragic consequences.

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I actually let out a sigh of relief when Woodchuck ended up winning.

It's fine I guess.

The state of American politics is to the point where a show like Veep seem realistic.

 

[MindCollizion]

LA Kings And Skinny Jugheads, Todd you're awesome.

 

[MrBS]

I enjoyed this season more than S3 so much so I'm actually looking forward to S5.

Also episode 9, amazing.

 

[crackhead_bob]

Does anyone think a book will be made on this show? I don't know what the name of the genre is, but you often see popular television shows and movie franchises release books that exist to celebrate and expound on its own mythos. Simpsons did this during its heyday, where they released several books that gave vital statistics on the main characters and branched out into the many themes and tropes that were the Simpsons.

I'd like Bojack Horseman to get this type of treatment. They now have 4 seasons of world building in their vault that would make for interesting material for fans to immerse themselves in. And, it would be a great showcase for Lisa Hanawalt's many interesting designs.

 

[Sadsic]

binge watched the whole season tonite - definitely the most solid and well-crafted season, but maybe doesnt have the highest highs of previous seasons

episode 2 and 11 are top 5 material for this show