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Manga Discussion/News Thread |OT4| New Ch/Vols! - SEE FIRST POST FOR RULES!

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You know maybe I just don't care enough but with all this talk of Bleach ending and all it suddenly occur to me that I have idea what was the point of the arc that just got done with. I seriously can't think of anything significant that happened help me here guys!!!

To explain Chad´s powers.
To elaborate about the shinigami badge.
To develop Ichigo´s character.
To foreshadow Isshin´s back story.
To give Ichigo his shinigami powers back.
 
Ichigo getting back his powers plus some small mysteries about Ichigo's family.

aaah! that's it I knew I was missing something, still though my feeling of indifference towards this series it shocking even to me since I really liked it back in the soul society era.

Anyways more Importantly

One Piece

That fucking Island!!!! It look like Ussop got to just strong enough to be a normal dude in the original grandline but since the new world also increased in level he is pretty much the same in relation to it as he was to the grandline.

Can't wait to see some Zorro vs. Samurai shit goes down I really wish Sanji was a member of the party though :(

Hunter X Hunter- Man this series is frigging god Tier Partison is definitely gonna be a torn in somebody's side soon enough!!

Naruto

Chibi tailed beats were awesome!!

To explain Chad´s powers.

To foreshadow Isshin´s back story.
I hope Kubo delivers on this on the level at which he delivered in the turn back the pendulum chapters, but I honestly think he no longer has it in him.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
You know maybe I just don't care enough but with all this talk of Bleach ending and all it suddenly occur to me that I have idea what was the point of the arc that just got done with. I seriously can't think of anything significant that happened help me here guys!!!

Ichigo's powers
 

Big One

Banned
I hope Kubo delivers on this on the level at which he delivered in the turn back the pendulum chapters, but I honestly think he no longer has it in him.
Pendulum was really a once-in-a-manga type experience and I highly doubt it'll ever happen again. Every reveal in Bleach has been fucking terrible so far, but then again the all had to do with the terrible Aizen plot. I have absolutely no hope that the reveal about Isshin and Soul King will end up being satisfactory in any manner whatsoever.
 
I hope Kubo delivers on this on the level at which he delivered in the turn back the pendulum chapters, but I honestly think he no longer has it in him.
Well the latest scans tell us that Kubo has been planning the upcoming arc for over 5 years.
Pendulum was really a once-in-a-manga type experience and I highly doubt it'll ever happen again. Every reveal in Bleach has been fucking terrible so far, but then again the all had to do with the terrible Aizen plot. I have absolutely no hope that the reveal about Isshin and Soul King will end up being satisfactory in any manner whatsoever.

Bullshit. The Aizen/Tousen reveal that they are enemies blew everyone away. The same with the reveal that Isshin and Ryuuken have powers.
 
Well the latest scans tell us that Kubo has been planning the upcoming arc for over 5 years.


Bullshit. The Aizen/Tousen reveal that they are enemies blew everyone away. The same with the reveal that Isshin and Ryuuken have powers.

tbh, does this really mean much, most authors somewhat plan their last act years in advance but it never really indicates the actual quality of it.
 

Big One

Banned
Bullshit. The Aizen/Tousen reveal that they are enemies blew everyone away. The same with the reveal that Isshin and Ryuuken have powers.
Uh...no, sorry but neither of those are "mindblowing" especially the later which was either hinted or made sense in the context of their reveals. The Aizen/Tousen thing is irrelevant as there's no real story or reason to why Tousen was against Aizen (same with Gin) that actually made any logical sense. Kubo showcases in situations, like Tousen and Gin, that he has no idea how a human being actually acts like.
 

Stat Flow

He gonna cry in the car
I remember Big One saying "Well, the Aizen reveal was shit. I mean, I knew about it before hand, but I acted like I didn't know about it...and it was STILL shit."

Good, no, great times.
 
Pendulum was really a once-in-a-manga type experience and I highly doubt it'll ever happen again. Every reveal in Bleach has been fucking terrible so far, but then again the all had to do with the terrible Aizen plot. I have absolutely no hope that the reveal about Isshin and Soul King will end up being satisfactory in any manner whatsoever.

It was such high quality levels of chapter I almost couldn't believe it was from the same Kubo who did these shitty Arrancars bs.

that's not my quote.

you win this round Mystic..


Edit: Aizen reveal as the big bad was awesome I won't deny that but pretty much everything else Aizen related from there on suck imo his greatest moments were steamrolling everyone in Soul Society back then was anxious to see how things played out but everything from there on with regards to him suck (well excluding the god tier turn back the pendulum chapters)
 

Big One

Banned
I remember Big One saying "Well, the Aizen reveal was shit. I mean, I knew about it before hand, but I acted like I didn't know about it...and it was STILL shit."

Good, no, great times.
Even if I didn't know about it beforehand, at most it would be shocking, but it's still terribly written.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
tbh, does this really mean much, most authors somewhat plan their last act years in advance but it never really indicates the actual quality of it.

The hilarious example of this failing miserably is the 17 Years Later chapter of Harry Potter.


Uh...no, sorry but neither of those are "mindblowing" especially the later which was either hinted or made sense in the context of their reveals. The Aizen/Tousen thing is irrelevant as there's no real story or reason to why Tousen was against Aizen (same with Gin) that actually made any logical sense. Kubo showcases in situations, like Tousen and Gin, that he has no idea how a human being actually acts like.
Humans don't act like Luffy either unless they are literally retarded.
 

Big One

Banned
Humans don't act like Luffy either unless they are literally retarded.
I don't think it's ever implied otherwise that Luffy wasn't literally retarded (isn't that the running gag here?). Though there is a severe difference between a character meant for comedy rather than a character meant to be dramatic.
 

tenchir

Member
HxH

I was under the impression that Pariston didn't expect to win against Ging until he decided to drop out(letting Leorio become chairman). Pariston barely won, he was just lucky that the situation was in his favor when he realized Gon was just healed. This just shows Pariston knows that Ging is much more terrifiying when it comes to manipulation.
 
Ao No Exorcist

Great chapter. The growing bond between the two enabled Rin to use his sword.

This is one helluva amazing panel



Reborn

Fong´s adult form looks good. I can´t wait to see him fight.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Oh c'mon, your defence to Big One saying humans don't act that way is quite literally "Well Luffy doesn't either!"

Have you even read in what situations argument from fallacy applies? Because your entire rebuttal was"well you like a character that doesn't act human either."

It wasn't a "defense" at all. You're taking it way too seriously.

The reason I posted that was to point out that I have no interest in arguing about fallacies when I make a half-joking statement.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Then why not just say that?

thats_the_joke.jpg
 

Big One

Banned
It wasn't a "defense" at all. You're taking it way too seriously.

The reason I posted that was to point out that I have no interest in arguing about fallacies when I make a half-joking statement.
Stating actual facts has nothing to do with stating fallacies. Kubo really has no idea what a human being actually acts like, and that is simply not even debatable after the entirety of Aizen's story arc. He fucked up bad with Rukia in Soul Society and Orihime in Heuco Mundo in terms of their characters and how they would naturally develop in any normal storytelling sense. Kubo's definition of character development is that characters change personalities for no real reason whatsoever, rather than showing actual progress aka real character development.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Stating actual facts has nothing to do with stating fallacies. Kubo really has no idea what a human being actually acts like, and that is simply not even debatable after the entirety of Aizen's story arc. He fucked up bad with Rukia in Soul Society and Orihime in Heuco Mundo in terms of their characters and how they would naturally develop in any normal storytelling sense. Kubo's definition of character development is that characters change personalities for no real reason whatsoever, rather than showing actual progress.

You wouldn't know a joke even if Dave Chappelle came to your house and delivered it personally.

Let me again point out that you again seem to actually believe your opinions of things are "facts" merely because you think they are right. They aren't the same thing and it's really getting tiring having you post inane defenses why your opinions are actually facts when called out on it.

Well that, and you telling random people to "shut the fuck up" constantly.
 

Big One

Banned
Let me again point out that you again seem to actually believe your opinions of things are "facts" merely because you think they are right. They aren't the same thing and it's really getting tiring having you post inane defenses why your opinions are actually facts when called out on it.
Saying, "Orihime did not receive proper character development in Hueco Mundo." is, in no way whatsoever, an opinion. Saying, "Orihime is a bad character." is. There is a severe difference and it seems it it you who doesn't understand the distinction.

The fact that Orihime drastically changes as a character, yet was not provided any reason for the changes, suggests that she did not go through character development. This isn't an opinion, this is what actually happened in Bleach. The same thing happened to Rukia too.

In any good story, there is always some form of character development that explains how characters change and how they develop throughout the story. This didn't happen with Orihime or Rukia, nor did it happen with Tousen and Gin. Even Naruto has character development. The problem isn't necessarily that Bleach has to conform to storytelling standards, but rather it tries to portray character development but fails so miserably at it.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Saying, "Orihime did not receive proper character development in Hueco Mundo." is, in no way whatsoever, an opinion.
FOR FUCK'S SAKE YES IT IS YOU BLITHERING IDIOT - DEFINING WHAT IS PROPER IS A FUCKING OPINION HOLY SHIT JUST GET IT
Saying, "Orihime is a bad character." is. There is a severe difference and it seems it it you who doesn't understand the distinction.

The fact that Orihime drastically changes as a character, yet was not provided any reason for the changes, suggests that she did not go through character development. This isn't an opinion, this is what actually happened in Bleach. The same thing happened to Rukia too.

In any good story, there is always some form of character development that explains how characters change and how they develop throughout the story. This didn't happen with Orihime or Rukia, nor did it happen with Tousen and Gin. Even Naruto has character development.

These aren't difficult concepts to understand, man.
 

Big One

Banned
YES IT IS YOU BLITHERING IDIOT
Yeah, I think I'm done here. Until you realize what "character development" means, you have absolutely no right to even attempt to discuss it. There is nothing opinionated about stating an absolute fact.

DEFINING WHAT IS PROPER IS A FUCKING OPINION HOLY SHIT JUST GET IT
Umm...no, not even close. That is the very definition of factually dissecting a story. Every story follows the same base standards.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Yeah, I think I'm done here. Until you realize what "character development" means, you have absolutely no right to even attempt to discuss it. There is nothing opinionated about stating an absolute fact.
If you can't understand how "Orihime did not receive proper character development in Hueco Mundo" requires an opinion, you are just....dumb, really. I don't really know how else to put it. It's a stupid person thing to say.


Umm...no, not even close. That is the very definition of factually dissecting a story. Every story follows the same base standards.
Standards and what meets those standards are opinions. I can only hope you're doing this intentionally as a troll as opposed to actually walking around believing things like this.
 
SO ANYWAY ONE PIECE

That symbol on the gate with the horned skull looks like it's in the same style (but not identical to) Little Oars Jr.'s jolly roger.

Given the massive skull on the island, this may be where Oars the II met his fate (and where the original Oars froze to death).
 

Big One

Banned
If you can't understand how "Orihime did not receive proper character development in Hueco Mundo" requires an opinion, you are just....dumb, really. I don't really know how else to put it. It's a stupid person thing to say.
Absolutely not. I'm not surprise someone like you absolutely fails to understand what a story actually is. There is nothing opinionated about when a plot fails to resolve, or when a cliffhanger ends an entire story arc. Nothing, whatsoever, is opinionated about saying that somebody did not receive proper character development. There is proper character development, and that's a fact. Proper character development doesn't conform to a specific narrative structure, it conforms to the fact that we actually see how the character change in some form or another, rather seeing the actual character change.
 
I see Big One and Angry Grimace are it again .
Damn don't guys get tired of this , Big One say something about bleach Angry Grimace feels he has to call him out for who knows what reason .
O well guess some things stay the same.
 

Big One

Banned
I see Big One and Angry Grimace are it again .
Damn don't guys get tired of this , Big One say something about bleach Angry Grimace feels he has to call him out for who knows what reason .
O well guess some things stay the same.
I'll continue to defend my points as long as I keep on winning. I know I'm right, others I've discussed this very subject know I'm right, only Angry Grimace is confused about the subject of dissecting something like Bleach. I think I'm done here for now.
 

Laughing Banana

Weeping Pickle
It's like watching the sunset on a perch in your sea-side villa.

Such a calming, comforting, and familiar sight.

Or as they say in the military movies: "Everything is finally in order, Sir!"
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I'll continue to defend my points as long as I keep on winning. I know I'm right, others I've discussed this very subject know I'm right, only Angry Grimace is confused about the subject of dissecting something like Bleach. I think I'm done here for now.

You'll continue to defend your points until your fingers fall off because you believe just arguing until everyone loses interest means you win even when you're completely and utterly full of shit, like you are right now.

You also claimed you "won" when you just lied and claimed you read a bunch of series you never read.

Let's see if you can get anyone to agree that a character receiving proper character development is a fact, as opposed to an opinion? Let's hear it MangaGAF.
 

El Sloth

Banned
SO ANYWAY ONE PIECE

That symbol on the gate with the horned skull looks like it's in the same style (but not identical to) Little Oars Jr.'s jolly roger.

Given the massive skull on the island, this may be where Oars the II met his fate (and where the original Oars froze to death).
Wasn't the original Oars' corpse discovered in South Blue or something? I should re-read those chapters. Good catch though.
 

upandaway

Member
SO ANYWAY ONE PIECE

That symbol on the gate with the horned skull looks like it's in the same style (but not identical to) Little Oars Jr.'s jolly roger.

Given the massive skull on the island, this may be where Oars the II met his fate (and where the original Oars froze to death).
I'm also expecting some Vegapunk connection

It's funny how I didn't even make the connection between Vegapunk and Punk Hazard earlier than 5 minutes ago
 
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