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The Walking Dead - Season 2 - Sundays on AMC
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To be honest, the whole finale was fantastic. Generally very well-paced, unlike the rest of the season. The only thing that irked me was everyone being able to make headshots whether they're walking or in a moving car. It was ridiculous. RV kid's death was a little dumb but I'm presuming the RV stalled when he stopped to get Rick which makes sense given that the vehicle has been cranky since the start of the series.
Finally, given the kind of people they had in the group (Shane, Rick and Daryl), I'd have thought they would have started fortifying the farm a long time ago. It would have been natural for them to figure out that those skimpy wooden fences weren't going to be doing much to stop a horde from trespassing. It makes no sense for the group to be behaving with so much complacence, especially after having seen their own supposedly-safe campsite got overrun so easily in the last season. Herschel commenting about the changing of the season should have set off alarm bells as well. Digging a defensive perimeter or even an underground dungeon to hole up in for a while would have made so much sense.
Now, as for the entire season, I really feel they could have done it all in half the number of episodes they took. The first half of the season was so draggy and slow with barely any story developments and too many boring dialogue scenes. It's such a waste really.
Finally, given the kind of people they had in the group (Shane, Rick and Daryl), I'd have thought they would have started fortifying the farm a long time ago. It would have been natural for them to figure out that those skimpy wooden fences weren't going to be doing much to stop a horde from trespassing. It makes no sense for the group to be behaving with so much complacence, especially after having seen their own supposedly-safe campsite got overrun so easily in the last season. Herschel commenting about the changing of the season should have set off alarm bells as well. Digging a defensive perimeter or even an underground dungeon to hole up in for a while would have made so much sense.
Now, as for the entire season, I really feel they could have done it all in half the number of episodes they took. The first half of the season was so draggy and slow with barely any story developments and too many boring dialogue scenes. It's such a waste really.
Deviated a fair bit early in Season 1:
Darlyl and Merle are not in the books, nor is T-Dog.
Sophia does not die in the books.
Carl kills Shane (similar situation) and way earlier.
Dale dies far later and is killed by human cannibals.
No CDC in books.
Rick loses his hand fairly early in the books.
Michonne is introduced much earlier.
Tyresse is not in the show, he is a former NFL player iirc in the books (dies though after a while).
I think those are the major ones, could have missed a few.
Darlyl and Merle are not in the books, nor is T-Dog.
Sophia does not die in the books.
Carl kills Shane (similar situation) and way earlier.
Dale dies far later and is killed by human cannibals.
No CDC in books.
Rick loses his hand fairly early in the books.
Michonne is introduced much earlier.
Tyresse is not in the show, he is a former NFL player iirc in the books (dies though after a while).
I think those are the major ones, could have missed a few.
What number am I?
ThatObviousUser
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32.5.
demosthenes
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It was done in B&W so they could get away w/ more gore/blood, just FYI.
Really? I knew that RV looked familiar.
Just saw it. Pretty good season finale. The "they're all infected" angle doesn't really change all that much though, despite being a cool detail. Rick really sacked up these past few episodes, didn't he? I'm also shocked, and glad, that Herschel made it. I'm glad him and Maggie are hopefully going to be around a bit longer. Andrea was pretty awesome on her own in the forest. I'm really curious as to what the chick with the katana and the amputee walkers is up to. Hopefully she's another badass for Andrea to learn from. I really enjoyed the direction that this show took in the second segment of this season. It bodes really well for season 3.
ZedIndyLil
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Excellent finale. Enjoyed it despite spoiling the fuck out of myself beforehand. Really, with the 2nd half of this season, the show is now finally delivering on the promise made by the series premiere.
I can't really think of another show that started with a great pilot, then was ok-to-bad for the next 12-odd episodes, THEN got good again. Glad it had the time to fix whatever internal production stuff was going on and get on the right track.
I can't really think of another show that started with a great pilot, then was ok-to-bad for the next 12-odd episodes, THEN got good again. Glad it had the time to fix whatever internal production stuff was going on and get on the right track.
No mention of him at all, in or out. They better leave him in though.
Funky Papa
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I'm all for this.
Night_Trekker
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Wow at all of the Lori hate. Not that I disagree. She's the most irritating character on the show. But her response does make sense from her POV, especially since her big reaction was to the news that Carl put Shane's zombie down. (Still annoying as hell though.)
EDIT: V lmao @ the title
You guys are getting dangerously close to spoilers here.
EDIT: V lmao @ the title
You guys are getting dangerously close to spoilers here.
EmCeeGramr
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Rick, concerned about Carl's moral standing after the events on the farm, takes him aside and tries to set him on the right path. Lori becomes concerned about Rick's dark influence, especially after the events of the previous episode (in which Rick told a wounded Andrea to stay on cooking and laundry duty while she healed, an order that horrified Lori). Lori, in an act of defiance to Rick, tells Carl to go play outside in the woods. When Double-Zombie Shane attacks, Carl is forced to put him down again. Lori, wondering where Carl went, runs up to find Rick consoling a weeping Carl. Lori and the group decide they can no longer trust Rick after this.
-Episode synopsis S3-04, "No Child Left Behind"
-Episode synopsis S3-04, "No Child Left Behind"
squidhands
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Do you watch the show on a small TV or something? My wife's never read the source material but knew this person was a female.
Did you also think the building at the end was a college or convent?
I've typed out some fixes for the blackened spoiler section earlier, but I don't want to post it because of this. But can you link the other topic, as it's fallen to the grave of the Off Topic
You can see a large fence surrounding the structure, with multiple towers along the fence line. An open flat field both inside the fence, and the surrounding area. Sure, it could be something else, but...
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Cornballer
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Please remember to use the TWD spoiler thread or the comic thread if you want to talk about the comics. Let's keep this thread focused on television discussion. No need to spoiler tag character names for casting announcements, but if you want to talk about the characters or the plot, throw some tags on it. Any significant events (character deaths, etc...) should definitely be in one of the other threads. Thanks.
More content from this morning:
- Metacritics roundup of season finale reviews
- The cast discusses S3 (AMC video, might be some spoilers)
A few more gifs:
The Best Week Ever recap has some funny captions up, as well.
More content from this morning:
- Metacritics roundup of season finale reviews
- The cast discusses S3 (AMC video, might be some spoilers)
A few more gifs:
The Best Week Ever recap has some funny captions up, as well.
I've typed out some fixes for the blackened spoiler section earlier, but I don't want to post it because of this. But can you link the other topic, as it's fallen to the grave of the Off Topic
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=465057
If you lose this post, remember you can always google "neogaf walking dead spoilers".
The problem isn't really the spoilers. It's the fact that some people spoiler minor things like names, and then suddenly someone spoils that X happens to a major character. It's easy to make the mistake and highlight the wrong bar.
I would imagine that Carol still harbors a grudge against Rick for leaving Sophia to her doom though. Certainly subconsciously at least.
Night_Trekker
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The Best Week Ever points out something that I forgot to bitch about (lol)... why would zombies stop eating a meal to follow a helicopter? Does that really make sense?
(Also, I am pretty sure they were eating a dog, not a horse, in that first scene.)
(Also, I am pretty sure they were eating a dog, not a horse, in that first scene.)
Funky Papa
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I'm losing it :lol
BFIB
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So Robert Kirkman and the other guy (forgot his name)stated that the reason Lori was mad at Rick, was because she was angry at herself for realizing what she has done to Rick and Shane that led to their confrontation.
Why not just have her say that? It also was stated that the reason she confronted Shane was as a last ditch effort to bring him back around, and attempt to "bury the hatchet" because she felt guilty about the way she handled things.
Why not just state that when both conversations happened? I guess the writers feel the need for the added drama, but there are other ways to do it.
Why not just have her say that? It also was stated that the reason she confronted Shane was as a last ditch effort to bring him back around, and attempt to "bury the hatchet" because she felt guilty about the way she handled things.
Why not just state that when both conversations happened? I guess the writers feel the need for the added drama, but there are other ways to do it.
Yes, I think it does. They follow noise and sight. They see a big eye-grabbing thing, they start walking. And then they keep walking, and others follow. It's how herds form.
Zombies are pure instinct, with no memory capability. They just eat to eat, not to actually be "full." Once destracted by the noise, they start walking, forgetting that they were just eating something.
As an example, if Shane had made a racket after shooting Otis, odds are the zombies would stop eating Otis and move towards Shane. Newest presented stimuli.
Lori's anger at the end, had more to do with Carl's involvement, more than anything. Just watch her change in emotion at that point (still, she's withdrawing once Rick mentioned killing Shane, but it gets worse when he gets to Carl).
That brings me to two questions: Where did that Heli come from, and why were all the zombies coming to the farm all of a sudden?
BTW: If those questions are answered in the comics, and will be answered in the series, I don't need to know
bengraven
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I love the Glenn/Maggie relationship. It just reminds me of, basically, the majority of my stronger, happier relationships. Total dork with a heart who ends up getting a girl way too hot and down to earth than him. My wife even admits that reluctantly. ha
Despite having seen Love Actually 10 to 15 times, years before I saw Walking Dead, I'm still shocked when Lincoln opens his mouth and is British.
Despite having seen Love Actually 10 to 15 times, years before I saw Walking Dead, I'm still shocked when Lincoln opens his mouth and is British.
lazybones18
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Yeah, I caught that during my second viewing. Still awesome
I still don't understand how people can have this kind of mindset after watching the last two seasons of this show.
Season 1 and Season 2 were basically all about the group trying to hold onto all of what was left of their morality/humanity and civilized behavior that linked them to the pre-apocalyptic world. They were all still trying to find a place of security and peacefulness that they believed was cut off from this new world they'd been thrown into. They all thought the farm could be this place, but little by little, throughout Season 2 their hope for returning to a normal life again was slowly being chipped away.
With the farm finally being overrun it could have been easy for the group to just cut their losses and move on and find another place where they could pretend walkers and bandits don't exist, which would lead us to almost exactly the same season as Season 2. Rick's revelation pretty much destroys every last semblance of hope for returning to their previous lives (barring a cure) because the threat of walkers will never disappear. The human civilization as they once knew it is gone forever and now the only choice available to the group is either adapt to this new world or perish. "Hope" in the sense of what it was at the beginning of Season 2 is dead.
LMFAO
sixteen-bit
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I'm not. His accent on the show still sounds bad to me.
The Army and it was seen in season 1.
The heard started walking. They ended up by the farm but after they heard Carl shoot Zombie Shane they stared walking towards the farm.
Funky Papa
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Maggie is much more impressive. Lincoln's accent sounds a bit weird even for a non native speaker like myself, but my mind was blown when I heard Lauren Cohan talking out of character.
Oh my.
I was thinking (and kind of hoping) that in the middle of that Zombtage, that the sound of the Barn Massacre, would have them course correct, to put them on a path towards the barn. Then have The Shane Finale be the final straw.
She doesn't sound like Adele does she? Cockney gutter trash.
No, it's a very good accent. Not "cockney"
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Oh yeah and not to mention Daryl loudly nailing things into the barn during the last episode.
FUBAR McDangles
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I agree.
Lincoln slips up here and there, and as someone who has family in the south and visits quite a bit(even though I don't have that accent), I can still pick it up a bit. To me, he doesn't really have a southern accent, but simply another accent that I can't really place anywhere. In my imagination I tend to believe that Rick grew up to a military father who moved him around a lot and he never got to develop his own accent so it's just a mish-mash of everywhere he's been. /mostly kidding.
Lauren's got her accent pretty much locked down, aside from maybe 1-2 hickups per episode, I'd guess. Still not perfect, but what can one expect?
I watched the finale with my girlfriend(who started watching the show when it returned from the mid-season hiatus, I still have yet to have her go back and watch the others), and we both agreed that even though so much happened in the finale, it all seemed a bit underwhelming. Not a bad episode, IMO, but it wasn't all that good either. It seems to be against the general consensus here, because it seems many of you enjoyed the episode, but those were my thoughts.
Supermanisdead
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ahahah, "just don't make eye contact, tdog"
"if they don't know I'm here they can't kill me off"
that's a winning strategy.
Angry Fork
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I have to wonder what the director told him before filming.
"Remember that part where you told Lori and Carl that you should go to the coast, and that you should have done that long ago? Where you don't agree with Rick's leadership? Think about that"
I'd guess it was something like the above.
This is only true because Jimmy had no value to the show, not because the RV was an interesting character, this isn't a good show like Breaking Bad.
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