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The GAF POP |OT| of Diversity, Hidden Talent, and Stan Wars

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Dr. Malik

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Projected sales for this week

Nicki Minaj (Young Money/Cash Money/Universal Republic) 215-235k
Adele 21 (XL/Columbia) 155-165k
Rascal Flatts (Big Machine) 110-120k
Lionel Richie (Mercury Nashville) 100-110k
One Direction (Syco/Columbia) 70-80k
The Hunger Games soundtrack (Universal Republic) 45-50k
Marvin Sapp (Verity) 45-50k
Of Monsters & Men (Universal Republic) 45-50k
Madonna (Interscope) 40-45k
Shinedown (Atlantic) 35-40k
Kelly Clarkson (19/RCA) 27-30k

I havent seen a drop like this since Rihanna first week black friday sales, even the Hunger Games OST sold more.
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Koodo

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An 87% drop. Not surprising though, a significant portion of the sales came from Ticketmaster's album giveaway. They didn't even bother adding a 99 cent delivery charge...

I wonder how the drop will be like in the UK. She might snatch another record there.


IN LESS DISMAL NEWS, The One Who Is Clocking Everyone has just been certified 9x Platinum in the United States. Diamond certification is imminent. Last album with a diamond certification was Usher's Confessions in 2004.
 
Jamming to this rn
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Has PopGAF heard of iamamiwhoami? Even though she's not exactly popular, she has a decent following on pop blogs like ONTD & PopJustice.

Her voice is pretty unique/unconventional so it's definitely not for everyone, give her a chance anyway:

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I still find it funny people thought it was Xtina when the project began.
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There's an 'OT' I made for iamamiwhoami but it flopped. My first official thread too. :(
I'm gonna bump it on Tuesday/Wednesday when 'In Due Order' comes out. If no one
on this huge message board
posts anything in that thread after I post about the new song/video, then I'll just give up and get the thread closed. It sucks because it seems like no one wants to give any of the songs a chance.
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The tour album did not have a big impact, only US customers got it and not many tour dates were not for sale, her debut is in line with every album debut from the past 10 years.

The haters remained pressed.


Shouldn't that be posted in the Disability-age community thread?

I can't believe people go out of their way to criticise MDNA while shit like this gets a free pass.

Gross.
 

Kyon

Banned
i cant with J Hoe and that "choreo" she's now in Gaga's level.. well JLo is more graceful. Gagita is more a hop scotcher/step aerobics mess than anything.
 
The tour album did not have a big impact, only US customers got it and not many tour dates were not for sale, her debut is in line with every album debut from the past 10 years.

The haters remained pressed.

Shouldn't that be posted in the Disability-age community thread?

I can't believe people go out of their way to criticise MDNA while shit like this gets a free pass.

Gross.

Indeed. Quoting that Forbes troll. Reaching much? Let's not give any credit to this woman so we can get hits. How desperate.

Incidentally, the MDNA CD version with ticket sale purchases is the clean version without Gang Bang. How lame is that?

J-hoe makes disposable dance tracks like Pitbull. They're on a lower tier. It makes for a funny contrast in how transparent stans are about their shades to high caliber performers tho. J-hoe needs a new choreographer STAT. That dance section... Zzzzz. Gaga level tho? Let's not be cruel, J-hoe is a good dancer.
 
And really, if Christina doesn't belong in the list that Leona DAMN SURE doesn't.
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I don't usually bust out the claws to educate those unfortunate few who would dare utter Christina's name in the same breath as Leona Louise Lewis, as if the two even barely occupy parallel planes of talent, beauty, grace, or human decency.

I will admit that, despite my distaste for all things grotesque and deformed, Christina has occasionally demonstrated a fleeting capacity for not screeching like a crazed litter of cats in heat. And I will further grant that irrespective of her spending her days on the entertainment black hole known ironically as "The Voice," this tasteful slice of heaven ensures that it would take a Cynosure-level of deluded vitriol to consequently equate her with J Hoe or Shitsinger.

Caveats aside, let me now count the ways:

Tone: Purely subjective, unless you're deaf. Leona's versatility is peerless among the post-millenial divas. She can sing softly and tenderly, with a proclivity to fierceness, and everywhere in between. Yet despite this, she maintains a vocal integrity and unique tone that is unmistakably hers. Christina, on the other hand, is on the same wavelength whether she's bleating what's supposed to be a touching ballad or offending all my senses with her usual brand of dance floor diarrhea. No subtlety, warmth, projection - nothing.

Technique: Christina strains, shouts, or otherwise produces the vocal equivalent of a painful bowel movement whenever she attempts to "go to church." Leona, on the other hand, quickly outgrew some initial bad habits and matured into a consummate performer. Her technical singing habits, reserved lifestyle, and respect for her fans guarantee that her voice will naturally preserve itself.

Class: Leona need not announce herself, since her beauty and voice speak for themselves. Yet while she could easily get by being a catty classless ho, a catfighitng bully, or a spoiled diva bitch, she instead remains humble and seemingly unaware of her god-tier everything. Your fave could never be this effortlessly charming.

/education
 

Kyon

Banned
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I don't usually bust out the claws to educate those unfortunate few who would dare utter Christina's name in the same breath as Leona Louise Lewis, as if the two even barely occupy parallel planes of talent, beauty, grace, or human decency.

I will admit that, despite my distaste for all things grotesque and deformed, Christina has occasionally demonstrated a fleeting capacity for not screeching like a crazed litter of cats in heat. And I will further grant that irrespective of her spending her days on the entertainment black hole known ironically as "The Voice," this tasteful slice of heaven ensures that it would take a Cynosure-level of deluded vitriol to consequently equate her with J Hoe or Shitsinger.

Caveats aside, let me now count the ways:

Tone: Purely subjective, unless you're deaf. Leona's versatility is peerless among the post-millenial divas. She can sing softly and tenderly, with a proclivity to fierceness, and everywhere in between. Yet despite this, she maintains a vocal integrity and unique tone that is unmistakably hers. Christina, on the other hand, is on the same wavelength whether she's bleating what's supposed to be a touching ballad or offending all my senses with her usual brand of dance floor diarrhea. No subtlety, warmth, projection - nothing.

Technique: Christina strains, shouts, or otherwise produces the vocal equivalent of a painful bowel movement whenever she attempts to "go to church." Leona, on the other hand, quickly outgrew some initial bad habits and matured into a consummate performer. Her technical singing habits, reserved lifestyle, and respect for her fans guarantee that her voice will naturally preserve itself.

Class: Leona need not announce herself, since her beauty and voice speak for themselves. Yet while she could easily get by being a catty classless ho, a catfighitng bully, or a spoiled diva bitch, she instead remains humble and seemingly unaware of her god-tier everything. Your fave could never be this effortlessly charming.

/education

dragged to the depths of hell RIP
 
Loose slayed my 2006 self
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You know, I never bought Loose. Which is odd, because everything related to Nelly and Timbaland (Maneater, Promiscuous Girl, Say it Right, Give it to me, ...) are fantastic! I also know Do it, because of the notorious sample stealing from a Finnish musician.

Are there other songs on Loose worth checking out? Or did they carefully cherry-pick the good songs as singles?

I want to look forward to her new cd, but I fear I just liked 2006-2008 Nelly because of Timbaland. Quite frankly, her music before that was mediocre, and her voice is annoying to me.
 
You know, I never bought Loose. Which is odd, because everything related to Nelly and Timbaland (Maneater, Promiscuous Girl, Say it Right, Give it to me, ...) are fantastic! I also know Do it, because of the notorious sample stealing from a Finnish musician.

Are there other songs on Loose worth checking out? Or did they carefully cherry-pick the good songs as singles?

I want to look forward to her new cd, but I fear I just liked 2006-2008 Nelly because of Timbaland. Quite frankly, her music before that was mediocre, and her voice is annoying to me.

There are one or two shitty ballads, but almost everything on that album is a DIAMOND.
 

Mau ®

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You know, I never bought Loose. Which is odd, because everything related to Nelly and Timbaland (Maneater, Promiscuous Girl, Say it Right, Give it to me, ...) are fantastic! I also know Do it, because of the notorious sample stealing from a Finnish musician.

Are there other songs on Loose worth checking out? Or did they carefully cherry-pick the good songs as singles?

I want to look forward to her new cd, but I fear I just liked 2006-2008 Nelly because of Timbaland. Quite frankly, her music before that was mediocre, and her voice is annoying to me.

There are some other great songs IMO on the album, but certainly not as good as the singles. The rest of the songs are more of a true collabo between Nelly and Timbo, as opposed to Timbo producing Nelly, if you get what I mean.

Maybe you should look them up on youtube :)

Timbaland these days is a shadow of his former self. His work with Demi Lovato
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Dr. Malik

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yes y'all better stan for Loose

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Big Hoops (Bigger The Better) will be out April 17

and her album The Spirit Indestructible will be out June 19
 
There are some other great songs IMO on the album, but certainly not as good as the singles. The rest of the songs are more of a true collabo between Nelly and Timbo, as opposed to Timbo producing Nelly, if you get what I mean.

Maybe you should look them up on youtube :)

Timbaland these days is a shadow of his former self. His work with Demi Lovato
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Demi Lovato in GENERAL:
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Dr. Malik

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You should be nicer to Marius.

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I would never stan for any Disney trash, the only one I would ever consider is Miley due to her gay rights advocacy and because Party In The USA, Cant Be Tamed, When I Look At You, Permanent December, and The Climb have all impacted my iTunes.
 

Kyon

Banned
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I would never stan for any Disney trash, the only one I would ever consider is Miley due to her gay rights advocacy and because Party In The USA, Cant Be Tamed, When I Look At You, Permanent December, and The Climb have all impacted my iTunes.

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There are some other great songs IMO on the album, but certainly not as good as the singles. The rest of the songs are more of a true collabo between Nelly and Timbo, as opposed to Timbo producing Nelly, if you get what I mean.

Maybe you should look them up on youtube :)

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I did. :) You're right though, the best songs are singles.
 

royalan

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Awww, someone's mad. Cute.
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Anywho, I'm glad that you posted that pic of Christina's game room. Here, for reference:

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Because it demonstrates everything about Aguilera that makes her a better singer/performer/entertainer than Leona "Can't Sing It if it's Not a 4/4 Ballad" Lewis could ever hope to be in life.

-Loud
-Bold
-Risk-Taking
-A thrilling mix of the conventional and the shockingly eclectic
-unafraid
-Experimental

Christina is all of these things, and not a single one of these descriptors could be applied to Leona "American Apparel" Lewis - who has spent her entire career being ushered from the boring, to the slow, to the safe, until she was led, finally, to what she now stands before: a giant brick wall.


Tone: Leona "Constipated Mariah" Lewis' versatility, as you described it, is her mere ability to change volume and does nothing to even come close to the versatility Aguilera displays on even her worst days. Whether it's in her overly breathy and unsupported lows, or her shrill highs, Leona absolutely fails at conveying anything other than that morose, melancholic tone that is definitely hers. I see she's also still doing that annoying thing where she ends every phrase in a squeak, or cuts them off outright.

Let Christina show you how it's done:

"All I Need" - Notice the evenness of tone, and her fully supported lows. Observe how her voice is staying feather-light while maintaining her signature rich tone and power. Notice that, despite how low she gets and how long she holds a note, she never falls off the note or cuts it off, but gently lets it go. Be in awe of the seamless transitions and the buttery-smooth key changes.

"I Am" - Another example of Christina singing tenderly and still being more dynamic than your fave. But especially on display here is what I mentioned in an earlier post: Christina's ability to apply melisma to stunning effect when properly reigned in. Pay special attention to the second bridge and chorus. Christina sounds absolutely beautiful here - vocals practically floating through the melody, gently caressing each note and gracefully transitioning from head to chest voice in a way that puts even Leona "Hiccup Vocals" Lewis to shame.

Now, I realize that every criticism I have of Leona "Ambien" Lewis' lows can easily be made of Christina Aguilera's poorer technique in her highs (something even I'm not stan enough to ignore), but I'll take you back to my original point in the post you addressed: When both singers are in their comfort zones, Christina Aguilera is just capable of more. Way More. So much more it isn't even funny. This is undeniable.

We've seen Christina go from the sultry jazz, to playfully Broadway, to fierce rock diva, to pop balladeer, to R&B songstress, to Hip-Hop hook princess, and back again.

Could you fave ever? No, she could never. Prove me wrong and I'd gladly eat my hat, but you couldn't. Because Leona "One-Note" Lewis could never. Ever. And no number of times you link to "Collide" will change that.

consummate performer.

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*snickers* So this is what we're calling performing these days? Doing half-assed jumping jacks in your mom's old office pants while singing into a mic that has an echo filter applied to it?

Ch...boo

Since I've already been put to sleep by her music, wake me up when Leona "I'm Vegan Today" Lewis does something even remotely close to this good.

Complex choreography, live, unfiltered vocals. And it's worth pointing out that Christina was able to perform at this level even after having gained considerable weight - displaying a complete dedication to showmanship despite whatever form her body is in.

Again, could she ever? No, never.

Leona need not announce herself, since her beauty and voice speak for themselves. Yet while she could easily get by being a catty classless ho, a catfighitng bully, or a spoiled diva bitch, she instead remains humble and seemingly unaware of her god-tier everything. Your fave could never be this effortlessly charming.

I'm not going to touch on the blatant slut-shaming here, because Christina has already done so herself through song.

But I will add that I'm glad that Christina isn't graceful, or classy. In this industry, that word is too often applied to artists who don't have the talent, conviction, and just plain out balls to be anything else. I'll take balls-out rude bitches who aren't afraid to say and do whatever they want like Xtina, Rihanna and Adele over "classy" hoes like Leona "Sidelines" Lewis.

Thank you very much.

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Dr. Malik

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Just she advocates, she even got herself one of those = tattoos and is always showing support to the LGBT community

Isn't she a hardcore Christian? Actually, seems like a lot of these little shits are. How revolting.

NO OFFENCE

Yeah she is Christian, but is always tweeting how religion is also bad. Even RTd some atheist quote and her follows got pressed. She just wants everyone to love and respect each other



Not the horse face

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Cyno lives on
 

Mumei

Member
I must say, as Mariah fan, it pleases me to watch stans of her basic bitches have it out.

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And while royalan might have an argument about Christina being a better entertainer, I think he's wrong on the original point of the discussion, which was vocals.
 

royalan

Member
I must say, as Mariah fan, it pleases me to watch stans of her basic bitches have it out.

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And while royalan might have an argument about Christina being a better entertainer, I think he's wrong on the original point of the discussion, which was vocals.

Well show me how Leona Lewis applies her vocals better than Christina in more than just a shrill high note, and I'll gladly retract the claws. You know me, I'm no stranger to admitting Christina's faults.

But I don't see it with Leona Who-is. I just don't. And nobody's shown me otherwise.
 

Kyon

Banned
I must say, as Mariah fan, it pleases me to watch stans of her basic bitches have it out.

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And while royalan might have an argument about Christina being a better entertainer, I think he's wrong on the original point of the discussion, which was vocals.

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Lamb Stamp of approval. She stays 12 forever while everyone else dies of old age and irrelevance.
 
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