SaintMadeOfPlaster
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If one more person spells Pachter like Patcher, I swear...
Don't know why it gets to me, but it does.
Don't know why it gets to me, but it does.
My question is, what are the big guns?
Is it Mario, Metroid, and Zelda? Because those sure didn't help the Gamecube, and they showed them all off at the same conference.
So it's looking like a gamecube era? Well, that era wasn't too bad.
I just don't think the market is the same as it was 7 years ago. I'm assuming the PS4 and new Xbox will be $499 (for a premium SKU) and at that price point, I really don't see them selling extremely well.
Everything this new generation that we've heard about and the Wii U has feels like it's lacking. I don't know what it is, I'm just not excited for this generation. At all.
Oh man, this post is somewhere between not being realistic and lying altogether. "Bright future"?
The console needs games, but it also needs more power. I agree with Pacther that the 360 and PS3 will cannibalize the Wii U when next gen hits in the fall. The prices of those consoles will fall (which are similar power wise) and then the Wii U will be completely buried.
Nintendo would be best off axing the Wii U and bringing out a console with no tablet controller with beefed up hardware specs. If third party devs still ignore it then call it a day, but at least the power/controller argument won't be relevant. As a Wii U owner I say axe the thing, start over, and add some power to the machine and get rid of the tablet controller.
The console needs games, but it also needs more power. I agree with Pacther that the 360 and PS3 will cannibalize the Wii U when next gen hits in the fall. The prices of those consoles will fall (which are similar power wise) and then the Wii U will be completely buried.
Nintendo would be best off axing the Wii U and bringing out a console with no tablet controller with beefed up hardware specs. If third party devs still ignore it then call it a day, but at least the power/controller argument won't be relevant. As a Wii U owner I say axe the thing, start over, and add some power to the machine and get rid of the tablet controller.
Wii U looks closer to the Saturn era at this point.
Goddamnit, I always read your posts in Darryl's voice. Every damn time lol.
Yeah but think about how they were perceived, even though they turned out good.
Toon Zelda, Mario pollution sprayer, and Metroid in first person. Didn't that kind of hurt its appeal?
If they reveal another amazing, varied Mario, a traditional, sharp-looking Zelda, and and sort of Metroid Prime revival I think that people would be much less hesitant now. Basically if they seem as good as the Wii iterations.
There isn't a lot of precedent for a February -> March increase, there's very little momentum for the system and people are overestimating the effect of a Monster Hunter port and Lego City.So is there a particular reason why sales would go down from the previous month after the Wii U gets its first retail titles since December?
Analyst: Nintendo sold 55,000 Wii Us in March, 85,000 Wiis
I could have sworn it was a retail release....ah well, you're right then, January and February had zero retail releases.
There isn't a lot of precedent for a February -> March increase, there's very little momentum for the system and people are overestimating the effect of a Monster Hunter port and Lego City.
From brief look, Monster Hunter Tri didn't appear to drive sales of the Wii when released.
Do Americans even know what Monhun is?
Yeah, I think people are looking at it the wrong way. Nintendo is using the time it has to make sure that it has software to beat the other two systems when they arrive in the fall.
ok what are the real sales?
I think the tablet streaming tech is cool, and possibly the future. Too bad they delivered an underpowered console with no games that alienated third parties again and a tablet controller with horrible battery life.
There's legit excitement surrounding the PS4 right now. Of course, they could always fuck it up with some $599 type of announcement but I've heard more talk about PS4 from "casual" gamers in the last 2 months than I've heard about the Wii U in the last 2 years. I don't know whether talk translates into sales but I don't see a reason to project the Wii U situation onto PS4/Durango.
I'm sure Pikmin 3 and the Wonderful 101 will save the system. And if they don't, Bayonetta 2 will. And if that doesn't, Mario Kart and Mario Infinity will. Maybe Wind Waker? Project X? Fire Emblem x SMT?
Thinking about it, the Wii U is probably fucked in all likelihood. Japanese games dont have mass market appeal here. Whatever. I'll still get all those games.
Damn. They need to rebrand the system or something. I am at a loss for words at what they can do to revive the system.
And as I stated earlier, other systems have had major titles released in March, with fewer or no major titles released in February, and still not managed to increase their unit sales or weekly average unit sales in March.As stated before, I think any games > no games.
I don't even know what to say to the "PS4/720 are going to bomb too!" comments anymore.
All I know is that threads like these are going to be funny as hell to read a year from now.
I don't even know what to say to the "PS4/720 are going to bomb too!" comments anymore.
All I know is that threads like these are going to be funny as hell to revisit a year from now.
I don't even know what to say to the "PS4/720 are going to bomb too!" comments anymore.
All I know is that threads like these are going to be funny as hell to revisit a year from now.
I do like the tablet controller in some instances, but my main concern is the cost that seemed to be tacked on by using it. They really are screwed this gen with the Wii U, I don't see a way out of this one. They either axe the console and leave day 1 buyers like myself in the cold to an extent, or they wait this thing out 4 years with little to no software library further turning off customers starved for games.
I want Nintendo to do well, but in all honesty they're screwed if they don't do something about it. I'd rather they burn the early adopters like myself, discontinue the console and call it a limited collectors release or something like that while announcing a new more powerful machine.
Where IS Pikmin 3, though? It was a Wii game, for pete's sake.
can a price drop + ambassador games + new games even turn this thing around?
the 3DS wasn't doing this bad when it received the price drop. the GC and N64 didn't do this bad until they were dying. being the CEO at Nintendo has to be the worst job ever at this moment.
Did Nintendo invest too much into Nintendo Land? I'm looking at the list of available games for Wii U, and it seems like Nintendo Land is the only thing they put out to draw in consumers.
And as I stated earlier, other systems have had major titles released in March, with fewer or no major titles released in February, and still not managed to increase their unit sales or weekly average unit sales in March.
What do you expect to happen in the mext 12 months to make this thread funny as hell?
But it's not a difference of no major games to major games. It's a difference from no games period to mid-tier games.
We'll see. I think we both have a valid argument here.
It's not practically zero, it's literally zero. It's just hard for me to fathom, personally.
The PS4 and 720 not bombing? As well as other misguided statements that will turn out to be wrong.What do you expect to happen in the mext 12 months to make this thread funny as hell?
They need to:
1: Market the WiiU (explain to consumers that it's a new console)
2. Drop the price. Just $50 off each set.
3. Announce some kickass games at E3 .
I'm pretty sure even the GC had better sales at this point.
As long as MS and Sony actually advertise their systems instead of relying on previous console success, they should be fine.
I worry about MS though, I get the impression that they think people buy gaming consoles for things not related to gaming. :/
And NSMB U. They bet wayyyy to heavily on those two titles.
Did Nintendo invest too much into Nintendo Land? I'm looking at the list of available games for Wii U, and it seems like Nintendo Land is the only thing they put out to draw in consumers.
Did Nintendo invest too much into Nintendo Land? I'm looking at the list of available games for Wii U, and it seems like Nintendo Land is the only thing they put out to draw in consumers.
Nintendo was hoping that Nintendoland would act as a converting tool to introduce Wii gamers to traditional Nintendo franchises, but they sabotaged all their plans for the game with their abysmal presentation.
Nintendo's March software refresh strategy was in line with industry precedent:
1. PS3 had one retail release in its first January and two retail releases in its first February.
2. 360 had zero retail releases in its first January and two retail releases in its first February.
When Nintendo releases games third parties whine that they can't sell games on a system that have to compete with Nintendo's
Iwata talked about how they wanted to give third parties some room on the WiiU to shine and I think they got bit in the ass. It really is the very last time Nintendo should make that mistake.
It's just a feeling I have that these consoles are not going to move that many units when they're released. I'm basing this mostly off of the price that I'm guessing, $499. I just don't think they average person is going to put down $499 for a console, let alone $349 on a Wii U. I put $349 to get a Wii U, because it's my hobby, but I don't think the average person who doesn't go on GAF will.
Though people might be more willing depending on the software. The Wii U had big names but it was clearly lacking Nintendo support from the get go and is still lacking that support. Nintendo has definitely blown the year head start.
It's hard to tell so soon, but that's my guess!
WTF does the U stand for?