FinalStageBoss
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I think ppl are bothered because she's a joke stealing hack tbh
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Amy Schumer insisted Netflix pay her the same as Chris Rock or Dave Chappelle
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I think ppl are bothered because she's a joke stealing hack tbh
El-Pistolero
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If her last -horrific- show is anything to go by, she is not as funny as Rock, not in a million years, let alone at Chappelle's level. Talent is key here, I imagine. But then, she must have a legion of undiscerning fans ready to buy tickets to suffer through her performances. So, going by numbers only, which seems to be the mantra of this mediocre era, she could be justified in asking for more.
Yup it's really all that matter.
Equal pay for equal work is obviously something that people do and should believe in, but there have been times (particularly in the entertainment business) where people have lost the forest through the trees and made arguments about equal pay that aren't really honest.
Robin Wright is actually a great example. She wanted equal pay to Spacey, as she is the female lead and carries half the load. They gave it to her and she deserved that, clearly. But then she got mad that Spacey, who is an executive producer on House of Cards and works on that side of it as well, still got paid more because he made money on that side. She doesn't produce the show so why on earth would she make something for producing the show?
PartTimeWarrior
Banned
Cool
Now she can pay writers to create good jokes instead of stealing other people's material
How old are you? I refuse to believe you don't know Dave and Chris rock
Now she can pay writers to create good jokes instead of stealing other people's material
How old are you? I refuse to believe you don't know Dave and Chris rock
A Link to the Past
Banned
Chappelle's done bad before as well.
Right, it really just depends on where your preferences lie and what you feel the case was done here. I tend to lean a bit more on the side of "people lacking integrity shouldn't be rewarded," but I understand and appreciate that some people feel there are more important issues.
Wait, she was mad she wasn't getting paid for something she wasn't doing?
Sony
Nintendo
Goes both ways. Look at this gem of a thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1394497&highlight=gadot
To spare you going through the whole thread, it turned out, like any rational person would have thought, that Gal Gadot earned an equal amount of money (relatively even more) than they male counterparts in their first appearances as superheroes and the thread completely backfired.
curiouscharles
Member
i'm all for pay equality, but she's not equally as funny as them, so no, no soup for you Amy.
lol, clearly he's somewhere between 2 and 8, because otherwise WTF.
lol, clearly he's somewhere between 2 and 8, because otherwise WTF.
Yes.
The amount Spacey made for acting on that show came out and Wright demanded equal pay. She got it. Then she found out he also has a producers salary, and got mad that he still made more. He is a producer and she was not. I guess she is one now, and I'm not sure of the timeline anymore. Maybe she is getting paid less for the same work now, I don't know.
A Link to the Past
Banned
But she got equal pay so she got her soup
Goldfishking
Member
I dont know who dave or amy are. I know who Chris Rock is though. I'm 22 and live in the UK, might be because their all american actors/comedians.
I disagree. Then, for example, every lead actor would also receive the same pay, but there are actors who are better then others and draw a larger audience into theaters. They deserve to be paid more. The same applies to, for example, football players.
Yeah I'm Irish so soccer is my game and there has just been a player sold for 212 million because the market deemed it so. Players get paid ridiculous amounts of money.There's an argument to be made for Tom Cruise vs let's say Casey Affleck but that's because of the budgets of the films. Do you think a doctor who does the same job as another doctor who has been there for ten years should get equal pay?
The Hamburglar
Banned
Wow Netflix really do just throw money around. Those guys shouldn't even have got 20 million.
All for equel pay but this is like an extra asking to be paid the sam as Tom Cruise in a mission impossible movie
All for equel pay but this is like an extra asking to be paid the sam as Tom Cruise in a mission impossible movie
If they were giving equal pay to all comedians on Netflix then she'd probably be making a whole lot less than 11 million.
Icedburden
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It's not that at all. She hasn't been around as long and as consistent, nor has she been funny. Pretty important for a comedian. There'd be no complaints if she wasn't a hack.
Skellig Gra
Member
She can try to get as much money as she wants. She "deserves" as much as she can negotiate for. She isn't comparable to Rock or Chapelle simply because she hasn't been in the business nearly as long. Nothing to do with gender but again she deserves as much as she can extract from Netflix during contract negotiations. There is no inherent right to X amount of money.
If everyone are getting payed the same, how do you reward the "best"?
There has to be a hierarchy of quality, no matter the gender.
A better comedian should be payed more.
If you kill the reward, you basically kill the aspiration to achieve greatness.
That doesnt make any sense.
If you arnt pulling in as much money, then you cant take home as much money. No business can pay a job at a loss for the sake of equality...unless of course you are top dog, then fuck everyone else.
While there are surely people who think like that and post here, i think you should have the right to say that she doesn't deserve it, not because she is a woman but because she is Schumer.
People her saying she doesn't deserve it would probably post the same if it would be about Dane Cook demanding the same as Rock and Chappelle.
I would say no, and i don't hate all her movies / stand ups but she is B Tier for me.
Woo-Fu
Banned
She'll be remembered more for things like this than her comedy.
Would like to know the exact reasoning behind Netflix's capitulation but that will never come out. If she had the same or higher numbers that would have been in the original post, right? Hmm, not there. How about in the Variety article? Hmmm, not there either.
Her team is taking advantage of something other than her comedic ability. That's what she pays them for, though, right?
Would like to know the exact reasoning behind Netflix's capitulation but that will never come out. If she had the same or higher numbers that would have been in the original post, right? Hmm, not there. How about in the Variety article? Hmmm, not there either.
Her team is taking advantage of something other than her comedic ability. That's what she pays them for, though, right?
The only thing I know of Amy Schumer's work is that she posed provocatively with Star Wars props once. Rock and Chappelle have been doing comedy for years and built a solid fanbase so I guess that means they can demand a higher pay packet.
Sweet! With this logic, me in a covers band can ask for the same fee as U2 or The Rolling Stones! Because, y'know, I'm doing the same job as those guys.
Sweet! With this logic, me in a covers band can ask for the same fee as U2 or The Rolling Stones! Because, y'know, I'm doing the same job as those guys.
MarkMclovin
Member
Wait, Chris Rock has a show on Netflix? It's not showing here. Is it US only?
Same job i.e. attracting similar crowd sizes
If your cover band can fill stadiums like the Stones then go for it.
It was just announced they did the deal a few months ago so the release date hasn't been revealed yet.
Yeah I didn't quite think this through.
DasPenguin
Member
Why? If she was as popular or more popular than Chapelle or Rock, then she would have a point. What's next: WNBA players asking for NBA salaries?
On top of that Netflix had to open their wallet to bring Chapelle and Rock back. I'm European and everyone I know knows both of them. Don't know a single person who has seen a special by Amy Schumer. Have seen her movies though.
I expect that Chapelle and Rock would bring a bigger audience than Schumer.
Biggest comedian in the world??????
I keep up to date with American comedians. And I know her name, but that's it. She is not even close to the crowds/fanbase Chris Rock, Dave (even Kevin Hart) attract.
Why make this about gender and call people here sexist when they base their opinion on her status instead of gender? She is not that famous.
LegendofDragoonLives
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no shit, she's a mediocre comedian while the other two are some of the funniest comedians of all time, in particular Chappelle. You generally don't get the opportunity when you're not in the same solar system in terms of quality you bring as those two. It's not even as much quality as the pull they got.
my iq may have dropped just by reading this. Especially the last sentence lmao
TatteredHat
Member
It's nice to want things.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
If she has leverage for a pay raise why would she not use it?
Get that money.
Let Netflix worry about that lol, they will pay Schumer what she's worth to them, not more.
Get that money.
Let Netflix worry about that lol, they will pay Schumer what she's worth to them, not more.
Good for h...oh, it's Schumer. Otherwise it would be fine but people just hate her. I hate her. She is an asshole and should be paid less just because she's a whiny asshole.
Women deserve to be paid a lot more but it's just the wrong person that's asking it here. She's like the female version of Trump except she doesn't steal her jokes from Fox and friends.
I am ranting too much. Long live other female comedians! Baby cobra shits on anything Schumer has done.
Edit: "biggest female comedian" in the US, and that's also a big question mark.
Women deserve to be paid a lot more but it's just the wrong person that's asking it here. She's like the female version of Trump except she doesn't steal her jokes from Fox and friends.
I am ranting too much. Long live other female comedians! Baby cobra shits on anything Schumer has done.
Edit: "biggest female comedian" in the US, and that's also a big question mark.
WhateverItTakes
Banned
I think you jumped the shark.
This is GAF.
It doesn't really work like that in the entertainment industry.
PartTimeWarrior
Banned
I mean there's valid reasons for people to dislike her.
Krombopulos_Michael
Banned
White male comedians are making wildly different amounts of money. This might suprise some people but how much comedians get paid isn't a hierarchy where all white comedians get paid the most with women and minorities on the bottom. It's based on how popular the comedian is. So someone like lois ck is up there with rock and Chapelle at like 17 million if I heard correctly. But someone like rory scovel isn't going to make anything near that because he isn't as well known. Race and gender really doesn't come into this.
And the reason she chose rock and Chapelle to be jealous of isn't some wierd race based white woman vs black man scenario like you are making it out to be. It's just that Chapelle is the biggest comedian, making the most money and Amy is a person who is jealous of the person making more than she is.
Nazgul_Hunter
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Who cares about how funny she is and how much she deserves it based on that? It's about how many ppl are gonna watch the special for Netflix. If she can bring the numbers in, then she should be paid the same.
Diprosalic
Banned
a woman asked for a raise, this is unacceptable.
MarkMclovin
Member
Ah OK thanks.
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