God Dayumm
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Some people find Schumer entertaining and hilarious as well. If she pulls the numbers, Netflix can afford to pay her what she wants. It's not her fault that people have bad taste
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Amy Schumer insisted Netflix pay her the same as Chris Rock or Dave Chappelle
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Some people find Schumer entertaining and hilarious as well. If she pulls the numbers, Netflix can afford to pay her what she wants. It's not her fault that people have bad taste
Professional Enthusiast
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Fuck it, she gets the views so she should get the cash. I Love Amy...... Well everything except this special. I watched it twice to see if would grow on me but bleh.
Umm I pay for Netflix. It is my money and if they want to waste it on this garbage fine, I can cancel.
Salty Rice
Member
Its no secret that she and/or her joke writer steal all the good jokes.
You can't be serious with this comparison.
Mammoth Jones
Member
Yup. This.
Oh, so it's really about how businesses should spend their money based on your personal opinion rather than actual metrics. That sounds like a really solid argument.
lightskintwin
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As a stand up comedian, Amy Schumer is not more popular than Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle.
Kevin Hart is definitely bigger than all 3 right now.
This right here. I'm not saying she doesn't deserve to be paid equally, but she honestly isn't on that level yet. When she hits that level, then damn straight pay her the same.
That's like me walking into a new job and demanding I be paid the same as the vet who has been doing the same job I'm coming into for 20 years. I might be able to do many of the same tasks, but I haven't earned that pay level yet.
Ninja Scooter
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Daniel Day Lewis is better at his craft than Dwayne Johnson...guess who gets paid more?
Ziltoidia 9
Member
Never hurts to ask.My personal opinion is she isn't at their quality/legacy yet, but she might one day. And if Netflix thought at the time she was deserving, then it would have been good for her.
Whats a good comparison? What do you think the businessmen that determine negotiations are looking at? Word-on-the-street-ometers?
Of course they're looking at her big movie success and her successful TV show, etc.
Doc Holliday
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If she pulled it off, good for her!
Is she as good as Chris rock or dave? nope
You get as much as you can negotiate. She's no different than anyone else working.
Is she as good as Chris rock or dave? nope
You get as much as you can negotiate. She's no different than anyone else working.
Human Resources
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another thing is -- stand-up is enjoying good numbers right now, but lots of these comedians understand that stand-up has historically been popular in waves
make that money while you can, or end up playing cruise ships or showing up on Sandler's doorstep hat in hand
make that money while you can, or end up playing cruise ships or showing up on Sandler's doorstep hat in hand
Simon Belmont
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lightskintwin
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UnemployedVillain
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Is this a joke post?
Absoludacrous
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Do you have receipts to back this up? Because having worked in an industry that has those receipts, I'd wager you're wrong.
Subpar Spatula
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Can't knock her hustle. Try to get more.
Dave and Chris can walk in, ask for a pay cheque, and do whatever bit they want. They're at that point in their careers where they can trickle drip the content and folks will pay. Schumer not so much, but can't hurt to demand.
Naw, women do get paid less. Your worth is determined by a system that pays women less.
Dave and Chris can walk in, ask for a pay cheque, and do whatever bit they want. They're at that point in their careers where they can trickle drip the content and folks will pay. Schumer not so much, but can't hurt to demand.
Naw, women do get paid less. Your worth is determined by a system that pays women less.
FWIW, the information the article in the OP has comes from this Variety article that's been linked a few times, and it does touch on the race gap as well as the gender gap and the overall systemic problems and how lack of opportunity is also a massive issue.
Good for her. She has every right to try and get a good payout.
That doesn't mean I think she deserves it, because I don't think she's as funny as Chapelle. In turn, there are plenty of men who I don't think are as funny as her and I wouldn't pay as much as her.
What I think doesn't really matter though, since only Netflix knows how much her gig is worth.
That doesn't mean I think she deserves it, because I don't think she's as funny as Chapelle. In turn, there are plenty of men who I don't think are as funny as her and I wouldn't pay as much as her.
What I think doesn't really matter though, since only Netflix knows how much her gig is worth.
Mighty Chin
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Go right ahead.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Gotta hustle. Quote your clients what you think you're worth. I respect that.
This is either one of the worst arguments I've ever seen, or its off topic.
I want to do that too, though.
They're definitely not looking at a documentary about a music festival from 2005 that opened in 1,200 theaters.
I'm not even insulting Amy here, I've no reason to dislike her, but Dave Chappelle coming back to do hIs special were a massive draw for people. It was like TFA for comedy or something, shit was a huge event. So while Amy is definitely popular, she's not Dave Chappelle's comeback popular, so of course Dave would get more than her.
I'm not really sure how popular Chris Rock is anymore, though, so I can't form in an opinion there.
thehypocrite
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Good. I hope she got it.
Tinfoilhatsron
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Does she deserve $20 mil?
Nope.
Does Sandler deserve whatever his paycut is?
Fuck no.
But Netflix thought they were looking at the data, so my opinion means zilch. Suprise! The world isn't 100% based on merit. (Or it is because she's pulling in numbers I guess)
The most 'eye-roll' worthy part might be the leaning on feminism and the current political during negotiations, but y'all are lying if you think you wouldn't do the same. I'd go all in on that! It's just business.
Nope.
Does Sandler deserve whatever his paycut is?
Fuck no.
But Netflix thought they were looking at the data, so my opinion means zilch. Suprise! The world isn't 100% based on merit. (Or it is because she's pulling in numbers I guess)
The most 'eye-roll' worthy part might be the leaning on feminism and the current political during negotiations, but y'all are lying if you think you wouldn't do the same. I'd go all in on that! It's just business.
Exactly, I really don't get why people in this thread is shitting on her for this
Which you should if your whining like this. Not everything they make is going to be for everyone.
IrishNinja
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somedays i miss dragona
gonna look her up then!
yeah, we're seeing some of the results of that here too
Jessi Klein is really the person you should be a fan of.(Head writer of IAS)
gonna look her up then!
yeah, we're seeing some of the results of that here too
Least100Seraphs
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This is an entertainment delivery company you're talking about here.
If two different people are both providing content that's getting roughly the same number of people to watch their content and be satisfied with their entertainment delivery product, paying them the same amount is the right thing to do. To pay someone less because they don't meet some arbitrary level as the other person is nonsensical.
For your analogy - if you walk into a job and you can do the same job to the same level of quality as the 20-year vet, and can deliver the same outcomes for the company and generate the same income, why should you get paid less? Let go of the concept of having to be loyal to be rewarded, unless you never want a raise again.
She isn't much better then they are. Fuck her.
QuantumSquid
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Dave Chappelle deserves to earn more than Amy, he's leagues above her as comedians go.
Right now, or more accurately a year ago, I'd say she was. She was doing the whole arena tour thing and her movie had just made bank. She is one of the biggest comedians of her generation and the most popular female comedian by far.
FreezerGeezer
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What a whiney lady, really dislike her as an entertainer. Does she not realise that she is barely worth half of those two mentioned?
How do these knuckle draggers bring this back to gender?
How do these knuckle draggers bring this back to gender?
thehypocrite
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We need cleansing by fire!!
Good on her for negotiating a better deal. Netflix wouldn't pay her if she didn't have the numbers to back it up. Talented or not that's all that really matters. Jeff Dunham and Adam Sandler have made massive careers despite being complete hacks and at her worst she is still better than those two.
I want to like Amy but her material is too inconsistent for me. Her standup has never really done much for me, but her CC show had some seriously fantastic bits and sketches, but were then surrounded by a ton of really mediocre to bad ones.
That said I didn't find Chappelle's latest standup on Netflix to be all that great. Far cry from his Killin' Them Softly and For What It's Worth specials.
I want to like Amy but her material is too inconsistent for me. Her standup has never really done much for me, but her CC show had some seriously fantastic bits and sketches, but were then surrounded by a ton of really mediocre to bad ones.
That said I didn't find Chappelle's latest standup on Netflix to be all that great. Far cry from his Killin' Them Softly and For What It's Worth specials.
Human Resources
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many metrics
ratings/box office, of course, but also:
the performer in question's quote is a good starting point, but also how that quote is trending is useful as well, can't let the competition outbid you after all
social media mentions
live ticket sale trends/venues
demographic data - if your stand-up content is primarily being watched by males, having more female representation could attract a different, more female demo to the content, more subs, more $, it's elementary
their own internal lineup -- if they have users that love to watch stand-up, and there's no new stand-up scheduled, they might lose users, just having that extra line on a list of upcoming projects adds huge perceived value to the subscription, even if the users aren't interested in that particular project, it instills confidence that the service is heavily investing in original content, validating your $10 even further, and making you feel smart for getting so much for it
subscriber data is also a huge resource for Netflix, each show has its own internal data that Netflix programs algorithms with
many of those algorithms can be used to predict what sort of content large portions of users/potential users might be interested in viewing/subbing for
basic cost/benefit analysis
Things get put in small numbers of theaters because they won't do better in more. If Chapelle headlining would have put more asses in seats they would have released it in more theaters.
Chappelle's comeback was a big deal but he only really did well in stand up and his TV show and didn't parlay that into much else. So yeah his comedy comeback was a big deal... in comedy. But Schumer has been successful many times beyond what Chappelle was.
That's why Schumer can command Dave Chappelle numbers without the prestiege, she's proven she's an earner.
King Tubby
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Yeah let's compare two entirely different categories of film released 10 years apart, this is the way to do it.
adamsappel
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Good for her. More people from all walks of life should demand greater compensation for their work.
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Why do you think she's getting paid that because she's a woman? She got a raise because she demanded it. Now, I'd bet that the initial pay she got was lower, because she's a woman.
I think you probably make enough money at your job. No raise for you.
You'd be surprised to learn the new hires at your job level probably make equal to your pay right off the bat (or certainly not 20 years of raises less).
Galactic Specter
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Are you seriously comparing a $3 million budget documentary to a $35 million studio romantic comedy that were released almost 10 years apart?
Aren't they the most watched Netflix movies? I don't think Amy Shumer has the same draw.
Subpar Spatula
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Google trends has Amy Schumer being more popular overall online than Chris Rock.
Out of the history of Hollywood, you don't believe there's a slant against women making money? It's quite obvious that it has nothing to do with talent or sales.
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