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Batman Begins - When You Make Yourself More Than a Man 10 Years Later

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Best of the trilogy imo.

Probably my favourite scene here.

"I'll be standing where I belong, between you and the people of Gotham."

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captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
Well I mean there's an ancient ninja conspiracy to destroy civilisations when they meet some arbitrary standard of decadence and they have enormous resources at their disposal. Their plan is to destroy Gotham by attaching a microwave emitter to a train that boils water instantly without harming humans to evaporate the whole city's water supply after filling it with a fear toxin that makes everyone pee-pee pants scared. Batman fights off the league of nefarious shadowy mysterious people and saves the city while allowing Ras to die because of a flimsy interpretation of his own moral code that he's not going to follow for the rest of the series. Meanwhile Bruce Wayne defeats a takeover attempt of Wayne enterprises by somehow buying all of his own company's stocks(?) using Alfred at some point. Must have had A LOT of liquid assets to be able to do that I suppose. Stupid gadgets / improbable tech: bat sonar summoner; microwave emitter.

It's got a lot of nonsense in the movie. The only real complaint I have with TDK is that the cell phone tech thing is pretty stupid and the Joker's plots are too elaborately well planned and executed for me to buy his talk of being mr chaos and not having plans. Otherwise it's far less "comic bookey" than the first movie is.
Completely agree with this. TDK is infinitely more watchable and enjoyable to me than Begins.
 
it would be cool if someone cut the first half of batman begins and in a way that would seamlessly continue into TDK as one movie

because the last half of batman begins is kinda artificial looking
 

Alienous

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You'll spent the first 45 minutes of the film not cursing at the screen for Bruce Wayne to get in the suit already.

That's a feat in of itself.
 

Sulik2

Member
I saw it at midnight. Got a ticket for rolling through a stop sign on my way home and grinned like an idiot the whole time. Such a shock just how good Begins was.
 
phenomenal movie. BB and TDK (and TDKR to a lesser extent) are my favorite portrayals of Batman. Nolan blessed us with these films as a standard to judge all other superhero movies by.
 
Theres alot of baggage that didn't age well for me ("you know what that is.... the powah of FEUAR") but damn, there was a lot of chill inducing moments watching this in the cinema for the first time. Especially turning over that Joker card. The texture and brood of that world, that beating industrial score. This was a long way from the nipple on the bat. Dark Knight still tops it, but yeah this film felt like a watershed moment for comic-book films.
 
I saw it 4 or 5 times that summer.

What a great movie, I was completely in awe of the respect for the character that Nolan showed, and how attentive the movie was with the psychology of Bruce and why he chooses to become Batman. It was the closest to the comics Batman, even with the missteps here and there, but in the end, it made me a fan out of everyone involved in it.
 

DeathoftheEndless

Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
I don't think my opinion on a movie has changed as much over time as it has with Batman Begins. I loved it the first few times I saw it (I liked it better than the Dark Knight). I tried watching it again a year or two ago and didn't like it at all. The dialogue, the fight scenes, Katie Holmes' performance, every line is repeated constantly, etc.
 

Oddduck

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I think Batman Begins had a massive influence on the business side of modern hollywood.

1) It started the trend of superhero films taking themselves more seriously with oscar-calibre actors like Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman, and Gary Oldman.

2) It inspired studios to reboot franchises more often instead of doing straight up sequels.

For example: Rebooting James Bond with Casino Royale. Rebooting Terminator with Terminator Salvation.
 
I honestly could never get into this movie. Probably because I loved Returns, Forever and Batman and Robin.

Movie seemed way too serious and not enough Batman until the second half.
 

nullref

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It's a good movie. If it falls a little flat for me it's because it mostly feels like a well-executed combination of Batman origin story elements that I've seen a lot of times before. Maybe if you're not a long-time comic reader you won't have that problem. Also, Katie Holmes' performance drags down the romantic sub-plot.

Whatever its flaws, The Dark Knight is the movie in that trilogy that really achieves something.
 

richiek

steals Justin Bieber DVDs
Pretty good movie and underrated compared to TDK, but damn, the excessive shaky cam use in the fight scenes were an abomination.
 

phaze

Member
The first 60 minutes are the best 60 minutes of an American blockbuster since Empire.

It's actually not a movie. It's an inspirational / motivational reel.

And the best Batman movie is the Dark Knight Rises , but i'll leave that for another thread. One day.

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Do pm me with a link to thread when you post it.

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Good superhero movie that suffers because of the choice of mentally deficient ninjas for the villains.
 
I really liked Batman Begins. I found it a hell of a lot better than TDK to be honest. TDK was great, but it was a bad Batman film in my opinion. Gotham wasn't as stylised as in Begins, and while I loved the Joker as a bad guy, I didn't think he was a good Joker.
 
Like absolutely perfect pacing for a super hero origin film. One thing that always irked me, and we also see it in comics, is batman doesn't really show how he was trained, rather it's always mentioned and recollected in a future story. Nolan addressed that in this film and I'm eternally grateful for it.
 

Broken Joystick

At least you can talk. Who are you?
As much as I loved Scarecrow's bit as the judge in TDKR, I can't help but wonder if Joker would have been in his place had Ledger not passed away.

I think they said they were done with Joker in any place (but of course, they'd say that), but him as the judge would have been great.
 
As much as I loved Scarecrow's bit as the judge in TDKR, I can't help but wonder if Joker would have been in his place had Ledger not passed away.

I think if the Oscar win and B.O records still went ahead, then Ledger would have been an instrumental villain in TDK3. But probably not the only villain.
 
Was the very first movie i followed pre production like a mother fucker via superherohype. I never read the original goyer but every damn day i was looking for info. Practically ruined the movie for me since i knew every damn thing including the Joker card. Puffy suit! ah , good times.
 

Arondight

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One of my favourite batman films.Rachel acting get's worse every time that I see it so now, I just skip the scenes.

I like the training scenes that lead up to the huge fight, the burning mansion scene, hallucinations.
 

Penguin

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Honestly, if you legitimately enjoy Batman and Robin, the old Adam West Batman movie (and TV series) is a far better execution of a campy, pun-filled take on the character and superheroes in general. It's my favorite screen version of Batman precisely because it lampoons the idea of vigilante crime-fighting heroes in tights in a charming, endearing way.

What about The Brave and The Bold?
 

Penguin

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I don't think I've seen any of it, though now that you mention cartoons I loved Batman: The Animated Series where darker and more serious takes on the character are concerned.

Batman TAS is my favorite version of Batman because it balances so much of the character so well

But for a charming, but campy take think Brave and the Bold is the best
 
This was one of the few experiences of following pre production and everything seemed to be the heavens aligning. Hearing about Nolan coming on to reboot Batman put a sense of hope into me. And then the casting announcements started, and things only got better.
And then we had the first pictures of the suit and the Tumbler, and it looked even better.

Finally, at long last, we had a Batman movie about Batman and not his villains. A movie finally delved into his training and showed why he was scary and insane. Batman Begins finally gave us the Batman we always deserved on screen. When it was over, and we had the tease about Joker at the end, I was fully prepared to sit there and watch the next film immediately.

I loved the film when it came out, and I love it even more now. TDK following it was fantastic as well, continuing the tradition of super hero films having superior sequels (we will ignore the FF films and Iron Man in this argument). Sadly, it still fell on the third film curse of super hero films where things go to shit at the end. While I was not a fan of TDKR, it was one of the strongest third films in a super hero series, but the bar wasn't really that high at that point.
 
Favorite scene was when he went stealth in the narrows apartment. He disappeared into the shadows when the Scarecrow and his henchmen entered the room, then was doused in gasoline and lit aflame. Bats was already gassed and knew he was in no condition to take on Scarecrow and his gang, so he jumped out the window and BALED THE FUCK OUT.
 

Sephzilla

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This thread is making me happy. For the longest time I thought I was in a large minority who thought Begins was the best Nolan movie
 

leng jai

Member
This thread is making me happy. For the longest time I thought I was in a large minority who thought Begins was the best Nolan movie

You are in the minority. TDK is by far the most popular Nolan Batman. I wouldn't be surprised if a massive percentage of casual movie watchers have never even seen Begins.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
It's got a lot of nonsense in the movie. The only real complaint I have with TDK is that the cell phone tech thing is pretty stupid and the Joker's plots are too elaborately well planned and executed for me to buy his talk of being mr chaos and not having plans. Otherwise it's far less "comic bookey" than the first movie is.

Joker was full of shit when he said he wasn't a planner, we're never led to believe he's to be believed about anything. If he said he went left, odds are he went right. I totally believe him liking the chaos that results of his plans, but other than that he's a total liar. We see him set up a plan C or D when he goes to talk to Dent in the hospital.
 

FTF

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Well I mean there's an ancient ninja conspiracy to destroy civilisations when they meet some arbitrary standard of decadence and they have enormous resources at their disposal. Their plan is to destroy Gotham by attaching a microwave emitter to a train that boils water instantly without harming humans to evaporate the whole city's water supply after filling it with a fear toxin that makes everyone pee-pee pants scared. Batman fights off the league of nefarious shadowy mysterious people and saves the city while allowing Ras to die because of a flimsy interpretation of his own moral code that he's not going to follow for the rest of the series. Meanwhile Bruce Wayne defeats a takeover attempt of Wayne enterprises by somehow buying all of his own company's stocks(?) using Alfred at some point. Must have had A LOT of liquid assets to be able to do that I suppose. Stupid gadgets / improbable tech: bat sonar summoner; microwave emitter.

It's got a lot of nonsense in the movie. The only real complaint I have with TDK is that the cell phone tech thing is pretty stupid and the Joker's plots are too elaborately well planned and executed for me to buy his talk of being mr chaos and not having plans. Otherwise it's far less "comic bookey" than the first movie is.

I always figured he was just making that up and lying to Dent to get Dent to turn, etc. Saying he had no plans was just part of his plan.

Also, happy 10th BB. Great damn movie and trilogy (yes, BB and TDK are so great they make up for TDKR' short comings, though I still like that movie)
 
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