Felix Lighter
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Battlefield 1 PC Performance Thread
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Thanks, I don't know why I could find it.
The Janitor
Member
I've seen a bunch of popular threads complaining about the TAA being blurry, they probably read that and added sharpening.
I doubt they are aware of it though, I sent a tweet to the Battlefield twitter about the sharpening but they probably wont notice that either :/
Felix Lighter
Member
You're honestly better pinging a dev that is active on Twitter about his/her work than the general PR Battlefield twitter.
The Janitor
Member
Know anyone?
Felix Lighter
Member
I would have said Johan Andersson @repi for BF4 but he's on the general Frostbite engine team now, not Dice. He was very active on Twitter about his work and even had a gaf account.
*Cringes* "blurry." Sigh. I know. However, most of what TAA covers is high-noise or over-sharpening that aliased images inherently have. What most are used to is this over-sharpness. And while I will admit TAA does introduce some softness (especially in motion), it isn't adding nearly as much as those crying "blur" think it does.
Anyway, I'm all for pre-sharpening, IF it's optional, and IF it doesn't introduce horrible halo artifacts. BF1 fails miserably at both. And the fact that the sharpening is double the strength of the console versions is ludicrous. Seeing as the PC version can run at a much higher resolution, you'd think, if anything, they would have made the console versions sharper. /rant
Again, access to those commands, a separate preset, or a slider would be great. Glad you attempted communication (I've documented the issue in detail on here and the official forum), but you're probably right in saying they'll ignore it. Time will tell...
The Dear Leader
Banned
I have had this error and crashed twice today. The game runs just fine otherwise, here is my system.
Intel Core i5 2500k-Overclocked to 4.5GHz
16GB DDR3 RAM
nVidia GTX 770 2GB
Anyone have any insight on why I keep getting this?
Maybe try using DDU to remove your NVIDIA drivers, then reinstalling your drivers?
I'll give it a try.
Regginator
Member
~50 fps on Ultra preset with a 4670K/280X combo you say? Looks like my PC, 8GB as well. Sounds good.
Are there any relatively insignificant stuff you can lower to (Very) High for a very consistent 60?
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
Is it me or is this game incredibly busted on a technical level? Everything runs fine for me when the game works - 75 FPS with everything on Ultra and DX11 enabled. However I can't finish a single operation because I get the DirectX crash to desktop towards the end of every single game. I was in a game earlier where we were literally 10 seconds from winning and I got the crash. Same thing with a defending game yesterday where it crashed on me at the same time that our armored train exploded. I've tried with both DX12 and DX11 and no dice.
This sucks because the only mode I really enjoy is Operations but the game won't let me complete a single one. I can play and finish Conquest games without any issues, but I don't really like that mode.
My rig:
i5-4690K 3.5GHz overclocked to 4.2GHz
ASRock Z97 PRO3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
8GB RAM
Sapphire Radeon RX 480 4GB NITRO+ 4G with a slight overclock
This sucks because the only mode I really enjoy is Operations but the game won't let me complete a single one. I can play and finish Conquest games without any issues, but I don't really like that mode.
My rig:
i5-4690K 3.5GHz overclocked to 4.2GHz
ASRock Z97 PRO3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
8GB RAM
Sapphire Radeon RX 480 4GB NITRO+ 4G with a slight overclock
Felix Lighter
Member
I have never experienced a crash in this game.
So far so good, I've also had a weird inconsistent framerate. Most of the time it's running at 60+ FPS on my setttings, even in heavy action, and then sometimes it just drops like crazy to the 20s. I also see this icon on the right of my screen all the time. What the hell is this?
dr_rus
Member
BF1's TAA is top notch, can't even notice any blurring, just some ghosting usual for TAA implementations. So whatever they did with sharpening was a right call.
TF2's TSAA is unusable for me in comparison due to the amounts of blur it introduces.
Eduardboon
Member
So far so good, I've also had a weird inconsistent framerate. Most of the time it's running at 60+ FPS on my setttings, even in heavy action, and then sometimes it just drops like crazy to the 20s. I also see this icon on the right of my screen all the time. What the hell is this?
That's the low FPS icon.
I get it when I enable vsync; 61fps is counted as low already. Put the game on medium and you won't have problems.
Felix Lighter
Member
So far so good, I've also had a weird inconsistent framerate. Most of the time it's running at 60+ FPS on my setttings, even in heavy action, and then sometimes it just drops like crazy to the 20s. I also see this icon on the right of my screen all the time. What the hell is this?
Sudden extreme drops in fps, makes me think your issue is the 2GB of video ram.
Hah, I always enable vsync and I saw it sometimes but didn't even see a frame drop. Glad to know the icon is just odd.
FX-4300 @ 4.2 GHz
16GB RAM
Radeon 7850 @ 2 GB
Getting as low as 24-ish FPS on large scale maps in conquest. 1920*1200 with everything set to low and 80% resolution scaling.
Perhaps it's time to get a new GPU and/or CPU.
Would a GTX 1050 suffice? Or should I just spend some more and get a 4GB RX 470 instead? I know that the 470 is the better card, but the price gap is pretty large where I live. Both cards are nowhere near MSRP.
16GB RAM
Radeon 7850 @ 2 GB
Getting as low as 24-ish FPS on large scale maps in conquest. 1920*1200 with everything set to low and 80% resolution scaling.
Perhaps it's time to get a new GPU and/or CPU.
Would a GTX 1050 suffice? Or should I just spend some more and get a 4GB RX 470 instead? I know that the 470 is the better card, but the price gap is pretty large where I live. Both cards are nowhere near MSRP.
Nope. Even Low preset = under 60fps.
My friend has an AMD 8350/280x and is getting less than 45 fps with some drops.
To conclude:
I'm more than happy with my rig, BUT maybe I'm just lucky.
The Janitor
Member
I think it's set a little too high, sharpening should be subtle or else it becomes too noticeable.
And since the resolution scaling option already does sharpen, it becomes too sharp when you combine it with TAA.
Here's a comparison gif between 4K DSR vs resolution scaling:
With resolution scaling the aliasing in the foliage is a lot more obvious, but with DSR it smooths out.
But that's just my personal preference, I'd be happy if they let us tweak it with a console command or something.
I don't mind sharpening, but what BF1's TAA has isn't sharpening, it's an edge-enhancement artifact (note the tank outline, foliage, gun sight, etc.):
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=221004601&postcount=507
If you think that looks right, I'm not sure what else to tell you.
Felix Lighter
Member
I was referring to the sudden drops to 20 you mentioned, not the low fps indicator. I've got that indicator with 90+ fps. I think it's just sensitive. A single longer than usual frametime might cause it to display.
I discovered another interesting graphical issue thank to this post I found on the official forum:
https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/discussion/49726/weapon-glow-light-effect-seems-pixelated
Turns out, even on the Ultra preset, the screen space reflections are half-res. Setting "PostProcess.ScreenSpaceRaytraceFullresEnable 1" in the user.cfg file or in-game command console does appear to activate full resolution SSR, and at virtually no additional performance cost.
I tested the same area the OP did:
I had noticed this artifacting before, along with the fact that consoles don't appear to have SSR at all, but I didn't know it was because SSR was rendering at half the resolution on PC.
Use at your own risk. I assume they don't have full-res SSR enabled at default for a reason, though I can't imagine why at this point. Go figure.
https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/discussion/49726/weapon-glow-light-effect-seems-pixelated
Turns out, even on the Ultra preset, the screen space reflections are half-res. Setting "PostProcess.ScreenSpaceRaytraceFullresEnable 1" in the user.cfg file or in-game command console does appear to activate full resolution SSR, and at virtually no additional performance cost.
I tested the same area the OP did:
PostProcess.ScreenSpaceRaytraceFullresEnable 0
PostProcess.ScreenSpaceRaytraceFullresEnable 1
I had noticed this artifacting before, along with the fact that consoles don't appear to have SSR at all, but I didn't know it was because SSR was rendering at half the resolution on PC.
Use at your own risk. I assume they don't have full-res SSR enabled at default for a reason, though I can't imagine why at this point. Go figure.
If anyone with a Broadwell-E CPU is getting a problem with GPU usage dropping after a round or so, then try disabling the Intel Turbo Boost Max 3.0 driver.
It's supposed to force single-threaded applications to use the best-performing CPU core, but I think in between rounds when loading the match, BF1 might behave in rather a single-threaded manner, causing this driver to interfere with the correct behaviour of the game. I found one core was sometimes pegged at 100% during gameplay and so GPU usage would plummet. I've had no problems since disabling the driver.
It's supposed to force single-threaded applications to use the best-performing CPU core, but I think in between rounds when loading the match, BF1 might behave in rather a single-threaded manner, causing this driver to interfere with the correct behaviour of the game. I found one core was sometimes pegged at 100% during gameplay and so GPU usage would plummet. I've had no problems since disabling the driver.
So far so good, I've also had a weird inconsistent framerate. Most of the time it's running at 60+ FPS on my setttings, even in heavy action, and then sometimes it just drops like crazy to the 20s. I also see this icon on the right of my screen all the time. What the hell is this?
My FPS are rock solid and this icon just keeps appearing. Driving me NUTS.
V-sync is enabled though.
New performance video,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pktQhIcaLJ0
I was surprised that using DX12 ran worse than DX11 in this game. (almost 10fps less)...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pktQhIcaLJ0
I was surprised that using DX12 ran worse than DX11 in this game. (almost 10fps less)...
You can disable that icon in advanced display settings or something.
Seems like it was only singleplayer benchmarks though, so those CPU benchmarks are not very accurate at all.
NameGenerated
Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
I have had this error and crashed twice today. The game runs just fine otherwise, here is my system.
Intel Core i5 2500k-Overclocked to 4.5GHz
16GB DDR3 RAM
nVidia GTX 770 2GB
Anyone have any insight on why I keep getting this?
Welcome to my hell.
Here's a 150+ page thread about it.
Doesn't look like a fix is in sight. Most common with 770s (which is what I have too). I never once got the crash during BF4 though.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Sharpening works by making edges brighter. They just overdid it. There's no threshold.
Yep. I can't play this game at all because of this crash. Tried everything and nothing works. Seems to happen to 600 and 700 series cards the most (GTX 680 here).
I don't think we're dealing with normal luma-sharpening here. The only thing that could create that halo effect around the edges is an unsharp mask.
Yeah I noticed that, the puddles reflections were horribly pixelated.
I'm having a hell of a time playing the MP portion of this game. It's a stuttering mess. Aiming is incredibly difficult, as you could imagine, when you're view is stuttering like crazy. Here's what I'm currently gaming on:
i5 2500k
16GB RAM
GTX 1080
The Italy map (forget the name), is probably the worst when it comes to performance. I thought that maybe my CPU wasn't able to cut it anymore but the single player portion runs great without any stutter. I've tried messing with the graphics settings but there seems to be no improvement. Anyone else have a similar setup and have the same problem?
i5 2500k
16GB RAM
GTX 1080
The Italy map (forget the name), is probably the worst when it comes to performance. I thought that maybe my CPU wasn't able to cut it anymore but the single player portion runs great without any stutter. I've tried messing with the graphics settings but there seems to be no improvement. Anyone else have a similar setup and have the same problem?
If I can run it at 60+ FPS, you absolutely can. A few things to try.
1. Disable Origin overlay. That fixed some of those types of problems as well as crashes. I don't know why that stupid thing is so terrible.
2. Get DDU and uninstall and reinstall your drivers completely: http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html
Both of these fixed my issues. I'm guessing you probably have it where whether there is intense action or not, your performance is very inconsistent. Sometimes you're in the 20s while nothing is going on and other times you're over 60 when everything is happening at once.
You think i'll be able to run this game on Medium Settings constant 60fps?
I am not overclocking by the way.
Motherboard : Gigabyte Z170X-UD3
Processor : Intel Core i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz
Video Card : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970
RAM : 16 GB
Operating System : Microsoft Windows 8.1 (build 9600), 64-bit
I am not overclocking by the way.
Motherboard : Gigabyte Z170X-UD3
Processor : Intel Core i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz
Video Card : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970
RAM : 16 GB
Operating System : Microsoft Windows 8.1 (build 9600), 64-bit
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
I get such fantastic performance with my i5-6500 and 1060 6GB at 1680x1050. I exclusively play 64-player Operations and my framerate hovers between 80-100 on most maps regardless of activity levels. Only a handful of times did I notice my fps dip to the 50s.
Makes you wonder how console version doesn't kill itself and erase disc it came on with its frequent dips to 30's and 20's.
Felix Lighter
Member
You'll probably get close to ultra at 60 fps at 1080p.
Yeah, no kidding.
Is there any way to get rid of that stupid "low FPS" notification? It's clearly bogus.
i5 6600
16GB DDR4 3000 MHz RAM
GTX 1060 6GB
I play at 2560x1440 and the game runs at 60fps locked and has never dipped in any game mode with everything at auto (most settings are Ultra).
Before I had a i7 920, 12GB RAM and the same 1060 6GB and in the beta I got 60 FPS but with everything on low settings.
16GB DDR4 3000 MHz RAM
GTX 1060 6GB
I play at 2560x1440 and the game runs at 60fps locked and has never dipped in any game mode with everything at auto (most settings are Ultra).
Before I had a i7 920, 12GB RAM and the same 1060 6GB and in the beta I got 60 FPS but with everything on low settings.
anyone else having an issue with DDU? When I run it it seems to work, and when I reboot and come out of safe mode in the past the resolution would always be low until I installed the new driver. Well I noticed that when I run it now, once im back into normal mode instead of staying at a low resolution it comes back to 1440p. I right click and see the NVP, which is typically gone after using DDU and noticed that it only removed the current version of the Nvidia driver but brought me back to an older one. If I run it again it just keeps the older driver instead of completely removing it. Anyone else have this issue?
Thanks for the suggestions. The issue that you described is accurate. I have the Origin overlay disabled already. I'll try using DDU to uninstall and reinstall my drivers. I'll report back with my findings later.
Hey all!
2 questions:
1 = has anyone else noticed strange CPU usage in this game? The game is maxing my i7 4790k 4.4ghz (and GTX 1080) on all threads, which other games never have done. Im getting higher temps in this game than in lintest and similar cpu tests :S
I have capped fps, use Gsync monitor, no vsync, performance / energy settings in windows 7 and in Nvidia control panel are set correctly, I have all the latest runtimes - I have also tried running all on low and all on ultra, always the same :S so strange!
2 = anyone have any good tips for try harding visuals / settings? I have all set on low but ultra mesh quality, no AA, no hbao, resolution scale 150 % on 1080p. Uniform aim is on, raw input on.
2 questions:
1 = has anyone else noticed strange CPU usage in this game? The game is maxing my i7 4790k 4.4ghz (and GTX 1080) on all threads, which other games never have done. Im getting higher temps in this game than in lintest and similar cpu tests :S
I have capped fps, use Gsync monitor, no vsync, performance / energy settings in windows 7 and in Nvidia control panel are set correctly, I have all the latest runtimes - I have also tried running all on low and all on ultra, always the same :S so strange!
2 = anyone have any good tips for try harding visuals / settings? I have all set on low but ultra mesh quality, no AA, no hbao, resolution scale 150 % on 1080p. Uniform aim is on, raw input on.
Ya my 4690k runs at basically 100% with this game, doesn't seem to impact anything too much but I blame all stutters on it... pretty weird.