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YASS KING!
It absolutely is a sexist comment to suggest that she's only gotten where she is because of her (married) name. Unless you're talking about her maiden name, but I don't see how she would have been helped much by the name Rodham.
Well I'd say the name got her foot in the door and she built her resume from it so it was kind of a symbiotic thing. There's nothing exceptional about her personality and demeanor like there was with Obama that would have justified her meteoric rise to compete for the presidency in an alternative universe where she wasn't a Clinton.
She's certainly a capable politician and would have been a competent president. So are a number of other Democratic senators and politicians.
His son had just died.
Mr.Shrugglesツ;237375102 said:His son died.
His son died.
Hillary, meteoric rise? Lmao 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Diamond Joe is right
Yeah this.No, Obama told him not to.
Yeah this.
DNC did not want actual contenders besides Hillary.
It was her turn. Hopefully we learn from that.
Than why didnt he run?
Nah. I was a Sanders voter that loved Biden, Obama, and Warren but never couldn't​ get excited for Hilary in 08 or 16.I think Sanders backers would have had just as much distaste for him
I don't think that is the only reason. I think the DNC under Wasserman put pressure on him.
You all are defending the same Biden that called Obama the first "clean and articulate" African American candidate. There's a reason this guy wasn't at the top of the ticket in his earlier election runs.
Also people forget that key people like Obama really wanted Clinton as next president.
I question the progressiveness of any Sanders supporters who would have preferred Biden to Clinton.
Biden is what an ACTUAL moderate Democrat looks like, going by his voting record.
But I guess he's got that pervy uncle thing that makes him so likable.
From leaving the White House as First Lady in 2000 to running for president in 2008?
That's pretty quick!
I question the progressiveness of any Sanders supporters who would have preferred Biden to Clinton.
Biden is what an ACTUAL moderate Democrat looks like, going by his voting record.
But I guess he's got that pervy uncle thing that makes him so likable.
I question the progressiveness of any Sanders supporters who would have preferred Biden to Clinton.
Biden is what an ACTUAL moderate Democrat looks like, going by his voting record.
But I guess he's got that pervy uncle thing that makes him so likable.
People realize that, had Biden chose to run, it would have been his third attempt, right?biden would have been a better option against trump therefore I would prefer him to clinton
I would have preferred a great many people to trump
People realize that, had Biden chose to run, it would have been his third attempt, right?
He's further right than Clinton.Why? I was a Sanders backer and think Joe Biden is awesome.
Being a white man goes a long way in politics.He's further right than Clinton.
He's further right than Clinton.
He's further right than Clinton.
People were crying about Hillary not being truly progressive... now y'all bring up centrists to nominate?
People were saying it was all about policy... until it's Hillary, and now it's all about charisma, aka "tell me what I want to hear"?
People were saying it was all about appealing to real progressives... until Bernie came out and said we should appeal to more racists, and now y'all want someone more appealing to center-right voters?
Look, why don't y'all do us the favor and admit y'all hate women & niggas so that we don't have to do these threads every other week, months after the election has ended? At least we'll all know where people stand and we won't have to deal with contradictory logic.
Than why didnt he run?
A LOT further right.
Biden approached blue dog territory.
He was blue dog territory.
Do you think his 2016 platform would have really been any different than Hillary's?
It's not anyone's fault. His son died. He was in no position to run for office.
And yes, Diamond Joe would have been the far easier candidate to run and would have bodied Donald in every debate. Infinitely more charismatic than Hillary or Donald...and we know it's a popularity contest to those "independents" anyway.
He was blue dog territory.
Do you think his 2016 platform would have really been any different than Hillary's?
I meant who's fault is it that he was a better candidate, despite Hillary being more qualified.
I'm basically bitching about the "good President =/= good candidate" conundrum.
He was blue dog territory.
Do you think his 2016 platform would have really been any different than Hillary's?
The platform sadly matters far less than the messaging. This election demonstrated that well.Yes. Very different.
He was blue dog territory.
Do you think his 2016 platform would have really been any different than Hillary's?
Oh you mean like Hillary Clinton.
Yes. Very different.
He was blue dog territory.
Do you think his 2016 platform would have really been any different than Hillary's?
I meant who's fault is it that he was a better candidate, despite Hillary being more qualified.
I'm basically bitching about the "good President =/= good candidate" conundrum.
Yup. That's really what it comes down to. People aren't consistent with their solutions but they're really consistent with who they are opposed to.People were crying about Hillary not being truly progressive... now y'all bring up centrists to nominate?
People were saying it was all about policy... until it's Hillary, and now it's all about charisma, aka "tell me what I want to hear"?
People were saying it was all about appealing to real progressives... until Bernie came out and said we should appeal to more racists, and now y'all want someone more appealing to center-right voters?
Look, why don't y'all do us the favor and admit y'all hate women & niggas so that we don't have to do these threads every other week, months after the election has ended? At least we'll all know where people stand and we won't have to deal with contradictory logic.
I meant who's fault is it that he was a better candidate, despite Hillary being more qualified.
I'm basically bitching about the "good President =/= good candidate" conundrum.
I'm really confused where this comes from.
She was Senator for 8 years, followed by 4 years as Secretary of State. Even if you want to tack on her time as First lady for both Arkansas and Pres. She will still fall about 10 years short of Biden.
Biden has 25 years as a Senator, 8 years as VP, With multiple years on several of the Senate Committees