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Bitcoin community in panic as major exchange goes AWOL.

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Makai

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The funny thing is that Coinbase, another bitcoin exchange, uses MongoDB, a non-ACID database for its financial transaction.

This is the exchange that everyone parrots as the one to use.
Haha. No way. You would think techno-libertarians would know better.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
This is delicious... I have my popcorn.gif and watching this go down. Talk about some crazy 2014-era moneymaking shenanigans. I mean, what are you gonna do when a theft like this goes down... call the police? Call the regulators? Who? :p
 

antonz

Member
This is delicious... I have my popcorn.gif and watching this go down. Talk about some crazy 2014-era moneymaking shenanigans. I mean, what are you gonna do when a theft like this goes down... call the police? Call the regulators? Who? :p

Which is why MtGox will be bailed out from within the market to the best of its ability because if there is a true implosion you will see governments get involved.

China is suddenly on one hell of a buy spree which has halted the drop and begun a small uptick in value. Chinese sources have bought over 100k coins in the last few hours
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Which is why MtGox will be bailed out from within the market to the best of its ability because if there is a true implosion you will see governments get involved.

China is suddenly on one hell of a buy spree which has halted the drop and begun a small uptick in value. Chinese sources have bought over 100k coins in the last few hours
Holy crap we live in amazing times if what you speculate is true. This little "fake" currency might have just gotten itself into a position where various governmental bedfellows might have exploited/scammed/need to save it.
 

antonz

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Holy crap we live in amazing times if what you speculate is true. This little "fake" currency might have just gotten itself into a position where various governmental bedfellows might have exploited/scammed/need to save it.

I think some people don't realize just how big this stuff is. In the past 24 hours over 100 million dollars worth of bitcoins have been traded.

I wouldn't put it past certain groups of being behind the theft in the first place to cause a crash in which they could then turn around and buy it up cheap just to then drive the price up again.

750,000 bitcoins were stolen. Even at its low price now that's 375 million dollars.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I think some people don't realize just how big this stuff is. In the past 24 hours over 100 million dollars worth of bitcoins have been traded.

I wouldn't put it past certain groups of being behind the theft in the first place to cause a crash in which they could then turn around and buy it up cheap just to then drive the price up again.

750,000 bitcoins were stolen. Even at its low price now that's 375 million dollars.

Amazing. It's like the 2008 financial crash with all the public awareness of an EVE Online skirmish.
 

jorma

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This is delicious... I have my popcorn.gif and watching this go down. Talk about some crazy 2014-era moneymaking shenanigans. I mean, what are you gonna do when a theft like this goes down... call the police? Call the regulators? Who? :p

The police sounds like a fair bet. Theft is pretty heavily regulated in most societies.
 
hi i'm new to investing in bitcoins but a friend of mine convinced me to invest my savings into 6 month call options for the currency. I've only been doing this for a couple of weeks; will this mess me up?
 

Chichikov

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I think some people don't realize just how big this stuff is. In the past 24 hours over 100 million dollars worth of bitcoins have been traded.

I wouldn't put it past certain groups of being behind the theft in the first place to cause a crash in which they could then turn around and buy it up cheap just to then drive the price up again.

750,000 bitcoins were stolen. Even at its low price now that's 375 million dollars.
People made mad money from bitcoin, no doubt, but that giant volume only shows that it's still mostly a speculative bubble.
No way is there anything close to 100mil of legitimate economically useful transactions in bitcoin in a day.

p.s.
I got a dogecoin online casino ad.
The internet is collapsing on itself.

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hi i'm new to investing in bitcoins but a friend of mine convinced me to invest my savings into 6 month call options for the currency. I've only been doing this for a couple of weeks; will this mess me up?
This definitely doesn't help you, what were the terms?
And for real, buying bitcoins options is risky as hell, I hope this is money you can afford to lose.
 
hi i'm new to investing in bitcoins but a friend of mine convinced me to invest my savings into 6 month call options for the currency. I've only been doing this for a couple of weeks; will this mess me up?

Do not invest money you aren't willing to lose. Ever. Especially in Bitcoins right now
 

Mindwipe

Member
I have simply never understood why anyone would keep bitcoins in an exchange.

It seems like a disaster waiting to happen.
 

Suzaku

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China is suddenly on one hell of a buy spree which has halted the drop and begun a small uptick in value. Chinese sources have bought over 100k coins in the last few hours

Couldn't this just be people cashing in and covering their short positions?
 
hi i'm new to investing in bitcoins but a friend of mine convinced me to invest my savings into 6 month call options for the currency. I've only been doing this for a couple of weeks; will this mess me up?

Yes.

Options have a rate of decay associated with them so you're doubly fucked depending on the strike price of the call.

The price of your option will go down at a faster rate as you approach the expiration date as well.
 

JaggedSac

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That shit be textbook.
And for real, just look at bitcoin market cap and daily volume, anybody in its right mind could tell it's a giant speculative bubble (and yeah, it still is).

And while there is definitely money to be made riding a bubble, there are less riskier ways than speculating on bitcoins.

That's pretty cool. Where did that second graph originate?
 

TomServo

Junior Member
This wouldn't be a problem if the currency (really, it's more of a speculative commodity than a currency, but let's call it a currency because its biggest fans want it to be that) were backed and regulated by some state entity.

I agree with you that it's a speculative commodity, but let's not let fiat off the hook just yet. It's not like we haven't seen capital controls in an EU member nation, debasement of currency when capital controls are lifted in other nations, and black markets for "hard" fiat currency above the official exchange rates.

Let's also not forget that the USD isn't beyond being threatened. Take BoA in 2011, for example. They shuffled around investment and deposit accounts (with the tacit approval of the Federal Reserve), effectively putting a gun to the head of the FDIC in order to gain assurances from the government that we'd backstop their garbage (again).

I'm no fan of Bitcoin, and I don't own any gold or silver, but let's not act as if fiat and "full faith and credit" aren't without their problems. I keep a one hundred trillion Zim dollar note at my desk as a reminder of that.
 

paile

Banned
I had some money in Gox. Started with $20 and turned it into $47 over a week. That weeks trading was a proof of concept for me, can trading bitcoin be viable as a means of income? Let's just say I've been encouraged by my success.

I lost that little bit of money but I'm am hardly deterred. Will be purchasing $500 of bitcoin soon to trade on another exchange. Will probably hold off buying however while I let things calm down a bit.

What many of you will never understand is that rich people become rich by taking risks. They take a risk and fail. They take a risk and fail. They take a risk and fail. They take a risk and HIT. And when they hit they hit big.

If I invest $500 and make a steady 2% roi daily for a couple of years I become a millionaire. Simple as that. If I lose $500 I lose $500. A risk worth taking when the potential for great reward is so great. Of course I could could invest nothing and do 9-5 boring as shit drudgery in a job I hate with the $500 saved to later be spend on some worthless materialistic junk in vogue at the time.
 
I had some money in Gox. Started with $20 and turned it into $47 over a week. That weeks trading was a proof of concept for me, can trading bitcoin be viable as a means of income? Let's just say I've been encouraged by my success.

I lost that little bit of money but I'm am hardly deterred. Will be purchasing $500 of bitcoin soon to trade on another exchange. Will probably hold off buying however while I let things calm down a bit.

What many of you will never understand is that rich people become rich by taking risks. They take a risk and fail. They take a risk and fail. They take a risk and fail. They take a risk and HIT. And when they hit they hit big.

If I invest $500 and make a steady 2% roi daily for a couple of years I become a millionaire. Simple as that. If I lose $500 I lose $500. A risk worth taking when the potential for great reward is so great. Of course I could could invest nothing and do 9-5 boring as shit drudgery in a job I hate with the $500 saved to later be spend on some worthless materialistic junk in vogue at the time.


Please be r/bitcoin copypasta
 
I had some money in Gox. Started with $20 and turned it into $47 over a week. That weeks trading was a proof of concept for me, can trading bitcoin be viable as a means of income? Let's just say I've been encouraged by my success.

I lost that little bit of money but I'm am hardly deterred. Will be purchasing $500 of bitcoin soon to trade on another exchange. Will probably hold off buying however while I let things calm down a bit.

What many of you will never understand is that rich people become rich by taking risks. They take a risk and fail. They take a risk and fail. They take a risk and fail. They take a risk and HIT. And when they hit they hit big.

If I invest $500 and make a steady 2% roi daily for a couple of years I become a millionaire. Simple as that. If I lose $500 I lose $500. A risk worth taking when the potential for great reward is so great. Of course I could could invest nothing and do 9-5 boring as shit drudgery in a job I hate with the $500 saved to later be spend on some worthless materialistic junk in vogue at the time.

I see it the exact same way, high risk high rewards
 

jett

D-Member
HAH, even my bitcoin-envangelizing friend has no words for this. I'm not even surprised something like this has happened, and I've no doubt it will happen again

I had some money in Gox. Started with $20 and turned it into $47 over a week. That weeks trading was a proof of concept for me, can trading bitcoin be viable as a means of income? Let's just say I've been encouraged by my success.

I lost that little bit of money but I'm am hardly deterred. Will be purchasing $500 of bitcoin soon to trade on another exchange. Will probably hold off buying however while I let things calm down a bit.

What many of you will never understand is that rich people become rich by taking risks. They take a risk and fail. They take a risk and fail. They take a risk and fail. They take a risk and HIT. And when they hit they hit big.

If I invest $500 and make a steady 2% roi daily for a couple of years I become a millionaire. Simple as that. If I lose $500 I lose $500. A risk worth taking when the potential for great reward is so great. Of course I could could invest nothing and do 9-5 boring as shit drudgery in a job I hate with the $500 saved to later be spend on some worthless materialistic junk in vogue at the time.

wut
 

TheOMan

Tagged as I see fit
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That shit be textbook.
And for real, just look at bitcoin market cap and daily volume, anybody in its right mind could tell it's a giant speculative bubble (and yeah, it still is).

And while there is definitely money to be made riding a bubble, there are less riskier ways than speculating on bitcoins.

Came to see this. Well done.

I admit that I was looking to get in before the massive fall, then realized it was waaaaay too late. LTC is probably the next bubble
 

Fury Sense

Member
this crash will let a lot of new investors get in on the action

coinbase blog has posted a joint statement from some of the top exchanges to try to reassure us

Fred Ehrsam and Brian Armstrong — Founders of Coinbase

Jesse Powell — CEO of Kraken

Nejc Kodrič — CEO of Bitstamp.net

Bobby Lee — CEO of BTC China

Nicolas Cary — CEO of Blockchain.info

Jeremy Allaire — CEO of Circle
i guess these sites will become some kind of inner circle of self-regulation

i've checked out a site coinsetter.com and it seems nice. quick to verify identity, easy interface, american. they are still working out site features afaik. minimum transaction is 0.01 for now but they told me they'd update it.
 

Makai

Member
I had some money in Gox. Started with $20 and turned it into $47 over a week. That weeks trading was a proof of concept for me, can trading bitcoin be viable as a means of income? Let's just say I've been encouraged by my success.

I lost that little bit of money but I'm am hardly deterred. Will be purchasing $500 of bitcoin soon to trade on another exchange. Will probably hold off buying however while I let things calm down a bit.

What many of you will never understand is that rich people become rich by taking risks. They take a risk and fail. They take a risk and fail. They take a risk and fail. They take a risk and HIT. And when they hit they hit big.

If I invest $500 and make a steady 2% roi daily for a couple of years I become a millionaire. Simple as that. If I lose $500 I lose $500. A risk worth taking when the potential for great reward is so great. Of course I could could invest nothing and do 9-5 boring as shit drudgery in a job I hate with the $500 saved to later be spend on some worthless materialistic junk in vogue at the time.
Most rich people are rich because of inheritance or because of what they produce (NOT because they played the lotto and won). If you want to take a risk, spend the $500 to advance your entrepreneurial dream if you have one.
 
I had some money in Gox. Started with $20 and turned it into $47 over a week. That weeks trading was a proof of concept for me, can trading bitcoin be viable as a means of income? Let's just say I've been encouraged by my success.

I lost that little bit of money but I'm am hardly deterred. Will be purchasing $500 of bitcoin soon to trade on another exchange. Will probably hold off buying however while I let things calm down a bit.

What many of you will never understand is that rich people become rich by taking risks. They take a risk and fail. They take a risk and fail. They take a risk and fail. They take a risk and HIT. And when they hit they hit big.

If I invest $500 and make a steady 2% roi daily for a couple of years I become a millionaire. Simple as that. If I lose $500 I lose $500. A risk worth taking when the potential for great reward is so great. Of course I could could invest nothing and do 9-5 boring as shit drudgery in a job I hate with the $500 saved to later be spend on some worthless materialistic junk in vogue at the time.

2% daily? This is clearly sustainable for more than like a month.
 
this crash will let a lot of new investors get in on the action

coinbase blog has posted a joint statement from some of the top exchanges to try to reassure us

It's always puzzled me why so many people involved in Bitcoin both want to paint themselves as being an alternative to Big Business and at the same time want to be like Big Business. Everyone in this proudly bears the title CEO of their company with at most two dozen employees.
 

TheOMan

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I may one day. Bitcoin was an easier buy-in with less fees and more volatility for profit. Bitcoin just clicked for me whereas I wouldnt know where to get started with stocks. Way riskier but sometimes it pays off. I deal with a well trusted Canadian exchange for most of my trades and I'm Canadian. I'm not dealing with some exchange off in Japan. May be false sense of security but there are many exchanges that are more transparent in their dealings than others and gox has been a bunch of filtyh liars forever. People should have known better than to stick around with them.

Which exchange do you use?
 
It's hard to feel bad for speculators and manipulators.

There is no logical reason for a bitcoin to be worth $500 or more in dollars. The hard limit to bitcoins is something I see as a fundamental flaw akin to that of a ponzi scheme. Early miners hoard masses until the resource is rare and then cash in. The greed motive appears to outweigh reason in some.
 
Wait a second... I thought one of the benefits of bitcoin was that your currency could be stored locally.

A website that used to trade magic cards started selling and buying bitcoin from people. Called an exchange website. Some people would store their coins in the site to trade faster. Transactions take time.
 

Blearth

Banned
I had some money in Gox. Started with $20 and turned it into $47 over a week. That weeks trading was a proof of concept for me, can trading bitcoin be viable as a means of income? Let's just say I've been encouraged by my success.

I lost that little bit of money but I'm am hardly deterred. Will be purchasing $500 of bitcoin soon to trade on another exchange. Will probably hold off buying however while I let things calm down a bit.

What many of you will never understand is that rich people become rich by taking risks. They take a risk and fail. They take a risk and fail. They take a risk and fail. They take a risk and HIT. And when they hit they hit big.

If I invest $500 and make a steady 2% roi daily for a couple of years I become a millionaire. Simple as that. If I lose $500 I lose $500. A risk worth taking when the potential for great reward is so great. Of course I could could invest nothing and do 9-5 boring as shit drudgery in a job I hate with the $500 saved to later be spend on some worthless materialistic junk in vogue at the time.

Dude just buy some scratchers instead.
 
I had no idea MTGox started as a card trading website. That is hilarious. Those tournaments are serious bidness. Gots me a holofoil limited edition charizard.
 

Makai

Member
A website that used to trade magic cards started selling and buying bitcoin from people. Called an exchange website. Some people would store their coins in the site to trade faster. Transactions take time.
Oh my god. I thought people were just making fun of the acronym.Wowwwww.

On a related note, I know a guy who dabbled in Yugioh card speculation. He has also considered speculating on Wii U tablets.
 
Which exchange do you use?
CaVirtex & Vault of Satoshi. Vault of Satoshi is really pro and they have an office you can go buy on site face to face if you are in the Toronto area, and the owner is always on reddit answering questions. He personally answers the phone many times if you call them. I trust them more than I do any other exchange but obviously anything can happen I guess. Volume is low though since they're newer.

BTC-e I have used before but they are the opposite of transparent. I fear they may walk away one day as well as no one knows who is behind the site. Just some dudes from bulgaria or russia. lol.
 
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