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Broad City Season 2 |OT| Wednesdays on Comedy Central

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That was a great finale. There is something about those two that is incredibly endearing. I guess its the candidness of their friendship.
 
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the_firewithin said:
was Hannibal Burress to busy with his new show to be on more this season?
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I think it only got picked up like a month ago, so I don't think it had any effect on his being on Broad City. I sure hope he'll be on a lot next season, though.

Out of curiosity, I checked, and he appeared in four episodes this season versus five or six last season. Not a huge difference, really.
 
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AstroLad said:
I know this will probably piss some people off (I'm super defensive about my favorite shows -- including Broad City -- as well), but this Paste article about the disappointing homophobia and transphobia in S2 is well reasoned: http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/03/broad-citys-growing-pains.html
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I read this earlier and was so disappointed in both the show and myself for finding it funny at the time. Oh well, soon a show will come along that doesn't have to resort to casual race/transphobia.
 
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AstroLad said:
I know this will probably piss some people off (I'm super defensive about my favorite shows -- including Broad City -- as well), but this Paste article about the disappointing homophobia and transphobia in S2 is well reasoned: http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/03/broad-citys-growing-pains.html
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This piece is mostly fair and I agree with its main thrust, but I think blaming Citizen Ship on Anthony King is unfair. He may be the credited writer, but the plots are usually created by the entire writers' room and everything written and filmed - plot, dialogue, improvised lines - is ultimately approved by the showrunners, who in this case are Jacobson and Glazer.

I also agree that the A plot of "Kirk Steele" is troubling (that it's based on blackmail and shaming of porn) but then for the writer to NOT call out that that episode was credited to Jacobson and Glazer -- it comes off as soft-pedalling because that ep was written by Abbi and Ilana.
 
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AstroLad said:
I know this will probably piss some people off (I'm super defensive about my favorite shows -- including Broad City -- as well), but this Paste article about the disappointing homophobia and transphobia in S2 is well reasoned: http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/03/broad-citys-growing-pains.html
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I don't think it's well reasoned at all. The author jumps from conclusion to conclusion: race jokes = racist, gay jokes = homophobic (her headline mentions the show's supposed homophobia but doesn't actually address it at all in the body of her article), trans jokes = transphobic, porn jokes = anti sex workers, etc. etc.

Her "HBO's 'Girls' sucks!!11!! (even though I've only seen 5 minutes of the first episode lolz)" spiel is just laughable.

She exhibits a blanket dislike for comedy written by men, is horrified to learn that a man wrote an episode of the show, and comes out in support of a Twitter warrior (who was blocked by the Broad City folks) who says things like "never let dudes near anything. Unfunny and transphobic. Gross." and "don't let dudes near yr work".

Yeah.
 
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Surprised the Alfred Nobbs joke wasn't also pointed out. I mean, the article wants to convince me but I'm not entirely convinced. Especially because something like Citizen Ship, even if it wasn't written by Jacobson/Glazer ... you'd think if there was a huge glaring problem, everyone in the writers' room, ESPECIALLY the two people in charge of Broad City would notice it and either shoot down the idea or get it rewritten.

All I got out of the article was there is a complete lack of understanding how TV is made, or at least she should make Jacobson/Glazer complicit in it (since they run the show and they are the leads, you'd think they'd notice these things like 5 times over), but even that point is missing.
 
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She also ignored the Kelly Ripa episode, in respect to the show's depiction of sex workers, which was very positive and fun.
 
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That article made me roll my eyes pretty fucking hard, especially when taking issue with that white power suit joke. You really thought there was any pro-white supremacy there? Making a joke about something isn't an endorsement of that thing.
 
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AstroLad said:
I know this will probably piss some people off (I'm super defensive about my favorite shows -- including Broad City -- as well), but this Paste article about the disappointing homophobia and transphobia in S2 is well reasoned: http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/03/broad-citys-growing-pains.html
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This person should not write when they're PMS-ing. Ilana and Abbi's characters are the same from season 1. Their attitudes and behaviors are the same, just different situations. But all of a sudden season 2 Abbi and Ilana have been twisted to be less "progressive"?

I see where they got offended, but do not agree the jokes call for this type of reaction. This commentator is spot on:
But the characters aren't supposed to be progressive heroes. They do and say clueless things all the time, and one of the things that makes the show work is that it is equally critical of and affectionate towards them. Ilana's persistent belief that she's a spokesperson for all oppressed people, even when she makes one awkward misstep after another, is one of the main running jokes attached to her character. I wasn't bothered by the intern/slave joke because it was so firmly rooted in her perspective - it's how Ilana, the well-meaning but misguided slacker social justice advocate, perceived the situation. Of course Ilana's attempt to slag off one group - evil corporate lawyers - results in her inadvertently saying something clueless about another group, in the same way that telling the boy she babysits that he's the most underprivileged person on the train means that she has to ignore all of the working class or minority passengers. The audience (hopefully) doesn't need another character to step in and articulate other characters' every mistake for us each time. I think your love of these characters has made you identify more uncritically with them than you're meant to.
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rexor0717 said:
That article made me roll my eyes pretty fucking hard, especially when taking issue with that white power suit joke. You really thought there was any pro-white supremacy there? Making a joke about something isn't an endorsement of that thing.
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I think the thrust of the criticism is that a lot of the called-out jokes and plot lines rely entirely on e.g., the idea of trans people being funny, full stop. There's no depth or commentary apparent there, you literally just have to fall back to the Redneck Comedy Jam defense of "well they're just tryin' to be funny, not all fancy and serious!" which doesn't really fit that well with a show that's otherwise done such a good job and being edgy without needing to fall back on that old excuse. I do agree that some elements of the article, like only calling out the male writer, are possibly disingenuous.

I'll fully cop to being an asshole and finding most of those things funny, but I can understand why people would take issue and actually be a bit hurt. When you're so inclusive and universally loved, you're gonna have more stumbles along the way.
 
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AstroLad said:
I think the thrust of the criticism is that a lot of the called-out jokes and plot lines rely entirely on e.g., the idea of trans people being funny, full stop. There's no depth or commentary apparent there, you literally just have to fall back to the Redneck Comedy Jam defense of "well they're just tryin' to be funny, not all fancy and serious!" which doesn't really fit that well with a show that's otherwise done such a good job and being edgy without needing to fall back on that old excuse.
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I think the trans jokes in particular were the least defensible, for exactly what you describe.

But for my money, the interns plot was about how Ilana, given just a little impetus and (unearned) power, became exactly what she claims to detest. I think those jokes were a little more incisive than just "hey, remember slavery"?

(and then, in the middle, would be the rape jokes of S2, ep 1, which were kinda funny and kinda had a point, but maybe not executed as perfectly as possible.)
 
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Nice and simple finale. I liked it a lot. I didn't even realize how close to the end the episode was until the camera started moving away from them while they were sitting down eating pizza.
 
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KingKong said:
Haha that was Bubbles' friend from the Wire
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He was Telly from Kids, which is probably more where this particular casting decision came from.

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AstroLad said:
I think the thrust of the criticism is that a lot of the called-out jokes and plot lines rely entirely on e.g., the idea of trans people being funny, full stop. There's no depth or commentary apparent there, you literally just have to fall back to the Redneck Comedy Jam defense of "well they're just tryin' to be funny, not all fancy and serious!" which doesn't really fit that well with a show that's otherwise done such a good job and being edgy without needing to fall back on that old excuse. I do agree that some elements of the article, like only calling out the male writer, are possibly disingenuous.

I'll fully cop to being an asshole and finding most of those things funny, but I can understand why people would take issue and actually be a bit hurt. When you're so inclusive and universally loved, you're gonna have more stumbles along the way.
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yep, this show has a HUGE magnifying glass on it. for good and bad.
 
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Anyways great season with a solid ending for the season. Hope they increase the number of eps from 10 to 13 next season, Workaholics gets 13 eps this season, seems a bit unfair, love both shows though.
 
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hateradio said:
I thought she said 22 on the episode.
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I think in the show they are, kinda weird, it's obvious their a bit older than that... Same goes with Workaholics with them being "25" when the look like their late 20's. Wonder if it's a Comedy Central rule thing that they must be a certain age in the show for demographics reasons.
 
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ZoddGutts said:
I think in the show they are, kinda weird, it's obvious their a bit older than that... Same goes with Workaholics with them being "25" when the look like their late 20's. Wonder if it's a Comedy Central rule thing that they must be a certain age in the show for demographics reasons.
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It's probably based on their characters that they created at the time. Both shows had youtube series before from when they were younger.
 
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the whole point is that even open minded people have wrong ideas. This isn't a show about being perfect in all your interactions. Everyone is "problematic". People just don't like experiencing that reality. And the jokes aren't directed at minorities, the punch line is always "white people". For example they aren't making fun of trans people when the joke is the people most uncomfortable with them are the ones that desire them the most. Well that's how it comes off to me.
 
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hateradio said:
I thought she said 22 on the episode.
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otapnam said:
It's probably based on their characters that they created at the time. Both shows had youtube series before from when they were younger.
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Yep, the show is based largely on the web series, which was based on their pre-career age selves. It's supposed to be an exaggerated depiction of their younger selves before any major success in New York.
 
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last episode was nice. however i've found this season to be a bit uneven and feel like it's trying way too hard with the heightened reality (this might be the case with the first season too, which i loved at the time, it just only struck me this time round) instead of just letting the characters be hilarious as they are about literally anything.
 
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Finally watched the season finale. It felt like their take on the Before series. I loved how casual everything was. I could have done without the chase because that kind of ruined the tone they had set up earlier but whatever.
 
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Darksol

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Was recommended this series by one of my girlfriend's cousins. I sat down, watched the first episode...then proceeded to watch the entire first season in one sitting.

About to start season two, and I'm already delighted to know there will be a third season.
 
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Darksol said:
Was recommended this series by one of my girlfriend's cousins. I sat down, watched the first episode...then proceeded to watch the entire first season in one sitting.

About to start season two, and I'm already delighted to know there will be a third season.
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wanna FOOOOOOK?
 
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Now imagine it was any decade between 1950-2010 and realize this show would never get off the ground. What. A. Time. To be alive.
 
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Now imagine it was any decade between 1950-2010 and realize this show would never get off the ground. What. A. Time. To be alive.
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I think it would have worked in the 2000s because it's modeled in a similar fashion to It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, which started in that decade.
 
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"I told these tourists the other day the wrong directions - I didn't want them to know that I didn't know, you know?"

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i can relate to that so much
 
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