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[SapientWolf]

Anyone else would get manslaughter charges. In the world of driving DUI is much worse than running a stop sign.

Manslaughter for what? Following the rules of the road? They would get a DUI but they wouldn't be culpable for the deaths.

 

[wenis]

Who are you going to defend next? Hitler and the Nazis?

I tell you what, you can always find someone on GAF to defend anything.

Anything.

Yes, that's obviously what's next.

We have some members who can defend incest so I'm sure there are a few nazi sympathizers in the mix.

 

[Onemic]

I want to be a cop now just because of the complete invulnerability to the law I would have. I can kill someone, park wherever I want, drink and drive, and do all the worst crimes in law and pretty much get away with it on duty or off, with the worst being relegated to a desk job.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Bet they won't run a stop sign again.

 

[Xeke]

Manslaughter for what? Following the rules of the road? They would get a DUI but they wouldn't be culpable for the deaths.

For breaking the biggest rule of the road.

 

[Alfarif]

Not sure if serious?

I kind of want you to get "Internet White Knight Defense Force" for a tag, now. You should really run with this character type. I don't think we've had one on GAF in awhile.

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Yes, I know you're joking in this thread.

 

[RiskyChris]

I kind of want you to get "Internet White Knight Defense Force" for a tag, now. You should really run with this character type. I don't think we've had one on GAF in awhile.

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Yes, I know you're joking in this thread.

This would be funny if everyone wouldn't take it seriously. The label of WK has been so misconstrued in its application to me =/

It's frustrating b/c the things I advocate are important to me and people just laugh it off as "lol rc white knighting again"

 

[xelios]

This would be funny if everyone wouldn't take it seriously. The label of WK has been so misconstrued in its application to me =/

It's frustrating b/c the things I advocate are important to me and people just laugh it off as "lol rc white knighting again"

You do get picked on a lot. On the bright side, they used to have this theory when I was in kindergarten about how people really felt when they picked on you...

 

[RiskyChris]

You do get picked on a lot. On the bright side, they used to have this theory when I was in kindergarten about how people really felt when they picked on you...

I was a cultureless kindergartener, what's the theory?

 

[GoldenEye 007]

Bet they won't run a stop sign again.

Oh damn.

 

[SS4Gogita]

Bet they won't run a stop sign again.

 

[xelios]

I was a cultureless kindergartener, what's the theory?

Let me google that for you...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q="someone+picks+on+you+it+means"

 

[RiskyChris]

Let me google that for you...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q="someone+picks+on+you+it+means"

lol this might be the first thing of all time I've never thought to google

<3 This doesn't really make me feel any better, it just makes me feel vulnerable ._.

 

[mckmas8808]

Once again cops get away with the worse things. I guess they really are above the law.

 

[SapientWolf]

For breaking the biggest rule of the road.

Yeah, thus the DUI charge. You're not automatically culpable for for an accident just because you're drunk. They wouldn't put you up on manslaughter if you got rear ended at a red stoplight. That's common sense. I shouldn't even have to be writing this post. What is it about cop stories that makes people shut their brains off?

 

[RiskyChris]

Yeah, thus the DUI charge. You're not automatically culpable for for an accident just because you're drunk. They wouldn't put you up on manslaughter if you got rear ended at a red stoplight. That's common sense. I shouldn't even have to be writing this post. What is it about cop stories that makes people shut their brains off?

The part where a cop gets drunk and plows into 2 civilians.

 

[grumble]

The part where a cop gets drunk and plows into 2 civilians.

The civilians sounds like they were at fault for it. Don't run stop signs into oncoming traffic.

 

[RiskyChris]

The civilians sounds like they were at fault for it. Don't run stop signs into oncoming traffic.

A cop should have the fucking ability to be aware of other cars around him. His drunk ass fault.

 

[whitehawk]

 

[mre]

Which episode is that from? It had to have been one of the ones with Q in it.

 

[Boogie]

I look forward to threads being created for drunk drivers of every other profession on earth killing people by driving drunk. Would probably overwhelm the OT, though, I think.

That said: Fuck this guy for driving drunk, fuck him up the ass.

 

[Boogie]

Once again cops get away with the worse things. I guess they really are above the law.

Too many regular citizens get off of impaired driving charges too. It's a travesty of North American impaired driving laws, and has little to do with police officers, specifically.

I could bore you all to death with instances of police officers charging people drunk off their ass with impaired driving, and getting acquitted by the courts. The pitfalls of impaired driving charges are absolutely ridiculous. But the only time it gets your attention is when it happens to a cop.

 

[RiskyChris]

I look forward to threads being created for drunk drivers of every other profession on earth killing people by driving drunk. Would probably overwhelm the OT, though, I think.

That said: Fuck this guy for driving drunk, fuck him up the ass.

It wouldn't be newsworthy because cops are in a position to be exemplary followers of the law.

But the only time it gets your attention is when it happens to a cop.

Because cops are in a position to be exemplary followers of the law.

 

[Boogie]

It wouldn't be newsworthy because cops are in a position to be exemplary followers of the law.



Because cops are in a position to be exemplary followers of the law.

And lawyers are also in a position to be exemplary followers of the law.

oh wait.

 

[RiskyChris]

And lawyers are also in a position to be exemplary followers of the law.

oh wait.

Who cares? Stop crying about bad police stories being posted. There's no bias, the news speaks for itself.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

The cop was charged because IL law states that if you are drunk and it keeps you from avoiding an accident then you are culpable.

And I find this acquittal deplorable. I wonder why they threw out the blood-alcohol evidence.

Weird, I was just talking about this case with my father-in-law this morning, and I haven't thought about it since shortly after the indictment.

 

[Boogie]

Who cares? Stop crying about bad police stories being posted. There's no bias, the news speaks for itself.

no media bias, that's a good one.

 

[RiskyChris]

no media bias, that's a good one.

There's no bias in the fucking postings. Sigh.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

Too many regular citizens get off of impaired driving charges too. It's a travesty of North American impaired driving laws, and has little to do with police officers, specifically.

I could bore you all to death with instances of police officers charging people drunk off their ass with impaired driving, and getting acquitted by the courts. The pitfalls of impaired driving charges are absolutely ridiculous. But the only time it gets your attention is when it happens to a cop.

I think the outright dismissal of blood-alcohol evidence is pretty deplorable. Are you suggesting that this happens every day for civilians?

 

[MWS Natural]

I find that in the US more than in many other democracies there is a hate for authority, including cops. They aren't perfect, but they do a pretty good job overall.

It didn't just materialize out of no where...

 

[Boogie]

I think the outright dismissal of blood-alcohol evidence is pretty deplorable. Are you suggesting that this happens every day for civilians?

More often than you would think, unfortunately.

 

[HurricaneJesus]

Is there any proof that they ran the stop sign, or are we just taking the cops word for it?

 

[RiskyChris]

Is there any proof that they ran the stop sign, or are we just taking the cops word for it?

It's probably pretty easy to tell if the car was hit while accelerating from a stop or rolling through the stop, but I'm not an expert on these things.

 

[Xeke]

And lawyers are also in a position to be exemplary followers of the law.

oh wait.

But lawyers can't detain or arrest me and I can't detain or arrest them. Cops however...

 

[Dude Abides]

Yes, that's obviously what's next.

We have some members who can defend incest so I'm sure there are a few nazi sympathizers in the mix.

Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, at least it's an ethos.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

It's probably pretty easy to tell if the car was hit while accelerating from a stop or rolling through the stop, but I'm not an expert on these things.

I believe that is in fact how they knew.

 

[Dude Abides]

More often than you would think, unfortunately.

How often does it happen and how often would we think it happens?

 

[Boogie]

How often does it happen and how often would we think it happens?

What do you want me to say?

I don't have statistics at my beck and call, and I don't work the road.

All I can speak to is talking with cops who do pull people over for impaired, and who speak to the ridiculous bar that is set for convictions. Impaired cases, at least in Canada, are subject to some of the most stringent sets of rules of evidence, and far too many cases, which *should* be slam-dunks are acquitted.

You don't trust me? That's fine. I just have the ear of the average cop who is frustrated at how many impaireds get off.

The fact that there are so many outraged in this thread, compared to how common this outcome is; well, that alone speaks to "how often you would think it happens".

 

[sneakypete]

What do you want me to say?

I don't have statistics at my beck and call, and I don't work the road.

All I can speak to is talking with cops who do pull people over for impaired, and who speak to the ridiculous bar that is set for convictions. Impaired cases, at least in Canada, are subject to some of the most stringent sets of rules of evidence, and far too many cases, which *should* be slam-dunks are acquitted.

You don't trust me? That's fine. I just have the ear of the average cop who is frustrated at how many impaireds get off.

The fact that there are so many outraged in this thread, compared to how common this outcome is; well, that alone speaks to "how often you would think it happens".

You boys don't have breathalizers up in Canada, eh?

 

[Boogie]

You boys don't have breathalizers up in Canada, eh?

of course we do.

The problem is with the hoops one has to jump through with the judicial system to get convictions.

It is, unfortunately not so simple as "I pulled you over weaving on the road and smelled liquor on your breath, please blow into this machine".....boom, conviction.

I, along with most cops, wish it were.

 

[SapientWolf]

The cop was charged because IL law states that if you are drunk and it keeps you from avoiding an accident then you are culpable.

And I find this acquittal deplorable. I wonder why they threw out the blood-alcohol evidence.

Weird, I was just talking about this case with my father-in-law this morning, and I haven't thought about it since shortly after the indictment.

He should be charged for failure to reduce speed to avoid an accident and possibly a DUI. He likely wouldn't get reckless homicide or aggravated DUI because he had the right of way.

To sustain the charge of aggravated reckless homicide, the State must prove the following propositions:
First Proposition: That the defendant caused the death of (the name of the deceased person) by driving a motor vehicle; and
Second Proposition: That the defendant drove the motor vehicle recklessly; and
Third Proposition: That the defendant drove the motor vehicle in a manner likely to cause death or great bodily harm; and
Fourth Proposition: That the defendant was then under the influence of alcohol or any other drug or drugs.
If you find from your consideration of all the evidence that each one of these propositions has been proved beyond a reasonable doubt, you should find the defendant guilty.
If you find from your consideration of all the evidence that any one of these propositions has not been proved beyond a reasonable doubt, you should find the defendant not guilty.

 

[TGateKeeper]

Too many regular citizens get off of impaired driving charges too. It's a travesty of North American impaired driving laws, and has little to do with police officers, specifically.

I could bore you all to death with instances of police officers charging people drunk off their ass with impaired driving, and getting acquitted by the courts. The pitfalls of impaired driving charges are absolutely ridiculous. But the only time it gets your attention is when it happens to a cop.

this is so true. I joke about this with my co.workers all the time. if u want to get away with murder just get drunk and ram into the person with ur car. most people who are involved in vehicular homicide rarely get hard prison time.rarely

 

[mre]

He should be charged for failure to reduce speed to avoid an accident and possibly a DUI. He likely wouldn't get reckless homicide or aggravated DUI because he had the right of way.

Got a link to those jury instructions?

Nevermind, I Googled.

 

[trinest]

The fuck is with American cops killing people.

You guys need to give up your guns- seriously.

And because this one is about cars- get rid of your crappy SUVs

 

[Boogie]

The fuck is with American cops killing people.

You guys need to give up your guns- seriously.

And because this one is about cars- get rid of your crappy SUVs

ya, this post makes a hell of a lot of sense.

edit: oh, it's an 18-year old Aussie posting from his mother's basement. I should have known.

 

[NomarTyme]

The fuck is with American cops killing people.

You guys need to give up your guns- seriously.

And because this one is about cars- get rid of your crappy SUVs

:lol

 

[Byakuya769]

Can we wait for all the facts? I mean what were the shots? There may be more to the story than meets the eye, you cop haters.

Ah, yes. Boogie is already fighting the good fight. Carry on, brother.

 

[Boogie]

Can we wait for all the facts? I mean what were the shots? There may be more to the story than meets the eye, you cop haters.

Ah, yes. Boogie is already fighting the good fight. Carry on, brother.

which good fight am I fighting?

the one where I said: "Fuck this guy for driving drunk, fuck him up the ass."?

Ya, I thought so.

 

[Byakuya769]

which good fight am I fighting?

the one where I said: "Fuck this guy for driving drunk, fuck him up the ass."?

Ya, I thought so.

Someone else posting under your name? Cause you have a few more posts than that...

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

He should be charged for failure to reduce speed to avoid an accident and possibly a DUI. He likely wouldn't get reckless homicide or aggravated DUI because he had the right of way.

I have a very specific reason to know what I am talking about. I believe all of the following would apply in IL.