SteveWinwood
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The crowd could really fuck it up too with yelling and getting excited. That's happened in sc2 with proxy pylons and stuff.
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Dreamhack Summer 2012 Thread: SC2/DOTA2/HoN/LoL/CS/Quake/BF3/SF4AE/SFxT June 16-18
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1-0 for Navi I think they'll win this in like 30-40mins.
ShallNoiseUpon
Member
Currently 1:0 to Na'vi over mTw.
It could be from 20 minutes [if Na'Vi wins really fast] to 2 hours [mTw wins games 2, goes to long game 3]
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Watching some dota to pass time for sc2.
That ping noise is driving me nuts
That ping noise is driving me nuts
SteveWinwood
Member
The game volume is too high. It's only going to get worse.Watching some dota to pass time for sc2.
That ping noise is driving me nuts
close to the edge
Member
Yeah, but that's something a good support player will know instantly anyways. He saw the wards in Smile's inventory and saw one less after they went up behind the tower. But I don't like the fact that the casters are in the same place as the players. They really can't say anything this way.
But the framerate.. hnng
That ping noise is driving me nuts
They really need to turn the game sounds down, yeah.
Haunted
Member
I think Mana finished his studies now too, which partly might or might not explain the varying results.
ShallNoiseUpon
Member
FuckingMad's midnight pulse there ruined the shackle shot.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
What's the point of commentary if the teams can hear it?
It's completely stupid as viewers who don't follow DOTA won't understand jackshit as they can't explain the items they are buying, the strategies, and more.
It's completely stupid as viewers who don't follow DOTA won't understand jackshit as they can't explain the items they are buying, the strategies, and more.
TheThunder
Member
What does the 11-14 number at the top mean ?
Heroes brought down by other team. When someone dies you can see timer for his next respawn at coresponding team where death occured.
:lol, dreamhack dota is kinda twitching me to try it too. looks fun, and strategicaly challenging...
So this is quite interesting imo. Big gold advantage and good items up (sheep on wr~)
But compared to other carries jugger isn't as good at split pushing and isn't as good at killing (except with ulti).
Even though they have furion they will still be forced to go together a bit more than with other big carries.
On top of that they need to push into the base against invoker/bm/lesh, or Na'Vi better than anyone know what to do to get back into the game.
But compared to other carries jugger isn't as good at split pushing and isn't as good at killing (except with ulti).
Even though they have furion they will still be forced to go together a bit more than with other big carries.
On top of that they need to push into the base against invoker/bm/lesh, or Na'Vi better than anyone know what to do to get back into the game.
close to the edge
Member
NaVi have no carry. It was pretty clear that, barring major fuck-ups from mTw, they would take it late-game because even if Juggernaut is not the best late-game carry in the game, he's better than no carry. (I actually really like the hero, love that he's picked up more often)
Even Windrunner now completed a MKB.
Even Windrunner now completed a MKB.
ShallNoiseUpon
Member
Yeah, and the smoke before I think 2 of Na'Vi were still smoked up. Kind of sucks.
krameriffic
Member
What the fuck? The players hear the shoutcasting? Why aren't they in a soundproof booth or another part of the convention?
ShallNoiseUpon
Member
1) because no one except Riot owns 2 sets of 5-man booths
2) who wants to just sit in a room and not watch the players and listen to casting?
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Cause stupidity, that's why.
close to the edge
Member
I don't know. I guess 2 soundproof booths for 5 players are somewhat expensive and they wanted them to be on the big stage for some reason.
I think they actually had booths at the last International so the players didn't hear the casters.
Good game from mTw.
ShallNoiseUpon
Member
Correct.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Na'Vi got fucking rolled. So good. But that's what pushing power gets you. Veno + Wind + Nature is hard to slow down. and when you're not safe in your own jungles anymore (let alone rosh), you've got an uphill battle indeed.
krameriffic
Member
Maybe I'm crazy, but the competitive integrity of the tournament should take precedence over "the attendees want to see the players". I seem to recall the teams being in 5 man booths at the International last year, so why are they ill-prepared to set this up? Horrible work by Dreamhack.
This is why Dota 2 needs a weekly podcast in the spirit of SC2's State of the Game. Allow the players and casters to speak their minds and keep the tournaments and developers honest, and to make suggestions about how to maintain the game as a major esport.
It has always been like this for HoN by the way, shoutcasters adapted and it's not that bad. Great finals so far, rooting for Mortal Team Work just for how old school that organization is!
Also, Fnatic won the cs 1.6 final vs Na'Vi as expected, I haven't seen it mentioned here.
Sound proof headsets would have been the easiest and most sensible route.
But yeah they better fix this shit for next time.
That being said, I think the casters did a pretty good job and were mostly spoiler free. That was a pretty good game. Enigma/Venom/Prophet/Windrunner is just insane push potential. Not to mention they can rosh in a matter of seconds.
The booth they had for The International was sick, probably cost a fortune.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtAyWVuog1w shows it off.
throwawayname
Member
I'm kinda annoyed by Tobi screaming all the time, maybe because it's late and I want to sleep.
ShallNoiseUpon
Member
I'm by no means disagreeing with you - it sucks. Was merely trying to give some potential insight in why DH did what they did. At the very least they could have done what IEM did/does and get some of those Sennheiser Helicopter Headsets to at least do something.
Edit: I hope Valve will be able to add in a short spectator delay for scenarios like this in the future.
It does get annoying as hell. However I thought he toned it down a bit for Game 2 which was good. Game 1 was kind of unbearable. I'm guessing the finals will be an all-out scream fest.
I think he's a pretty decent caster, but his constant screaming is probably my least favorite thing about him. I really hope the Dota 2 scene gets some more casters at some point. It seems way too reliant on Tobi right now.
Dendi, Tobi, SingSing and Puppey would be ace.
krameriffic
Member
Indeed. Any kind of closed headphones would probably be fine. I just saw the stage they are playing on and the teams are so close together that they can probably hear each other's voices directly, no need for Tobi to spoil things.
Didn't they have them at The International?
They are using them aren't they? I don't think proper 100% sound proof ones exist.