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Ebola: Doctors told to prep for global outbreak after victim allowed on two planes

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commedieu

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The CDC is now advising airline crews to treat all bodily fluids as infectious.

http://fox2now.com/2014/09/22/cdc-briefs-airlines-on-handling-the-ebola-virus/

World Health Organization Says Ebola Death Rate at 70 Percent

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/heal...bola-cases-Outbreak-death-rate-276417961.html

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And what the heck is up with the CDC constantly changing Ebola's symptoms.. it keeps changing..?

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/symptoms/index.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20140801015854/http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/symptoms/index.html

They removed the respiratory symptoms from Ebola on the CDC's website. wtf.
It looks like they removed the leading symptoms that are cold like symptoms.
This is so suspect:

Fever (90%-100%) (2)
Headache (40%-90%) (2)
Chills (3)
Myalgia/arthralgia (40%-80%) (2)
Malaise (75%-85%) (2)
Pharyngitis (20%-40%) (2)
Loss of appetite (3)
Vomiting (59%) (1)
Hematemesis (10%-40%) (2)
Non-bloody diarrhea (81%) (1)
Blood fails to clot (71%-78%) (1)
Abdominal pain (60-80%) (2)
Dry and sore throat (63%) (1)

Chest pain (83% of EBO-S infected patients; uncommon in EBO-Z infected patients) (1)
Hemorrhagic diathesis (71%-78%) (1)
Maculopapular rash (5%-20%) (2)
Hiccups (15 %) (1)
Hepatic damage
Renal failure
CNS involvement (infrequently) (1)
Terminal shock
Lymphopenia
Severe thrombocytopenia
Transaminase elevation
Hyperamylasemia

During the convalescent stage:
Loss of memory
Central nervous system disorders
Loss of hair


References:
Peters, C.J. and A.S. Khan. "Filovirus Diseases." Current Topics in Microbiology and Immunology 235. Berlin: Springer-Verlag. 1999.
Zaki, S.R. and Peter Kilmarx. "Ebola Virus Hemorrhagic Fever." Pathology of Emerging Infections. Washington, DC: American Society for Microbiology. 1997.
WHO. "WHO Fact Sheet."

https://web.stanford.edu/group/virus/filo/humandiseases.html
 

commedieu

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Good News:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-first-ebola-treatment-trials-in-west-africa/

Health officials will begin first Ebola treatment trials in West Africa


"Release now" and "do proper testing first" are mutually exclusive. Proper testing would take years. This outbreak will be over long before then. As for making it free there's obviously no such thing but I would fully support the WHO funding such an effort. Sadly, I doubt they have the budget for it.

Uuuuuuuh... can't tell if serious.

Just in case, that's not how tests work.

Glad they found a way to make it work. Despite the experts chiming in.
 

Raist

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I wonder wehre the fuck they got their numbers from, because thaat's just nonsense.

Good News:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-first-ebola-treatment-trials-in-west-africa/

Glad they found a way to make it work. Despite the experts chiming in.

Didn't you read anything past the title?

Although experimental treatments for the Ebola virus have already been administered to westerners who contracted the disease, scientists in London, with the help of international aid groups, plan on bringing clinical trials for those treatments to West Africa for the first time. The trials could begin in a matter of months.
 

commedieu

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I wonder wehre the fuck they got their numbers from, because thaat's just nonsense.



Didn't you read anything past the title?

Don't speak down to me. I said its good news, im glad they are starting trials.

Given the current outbreak I think it's the right choice. At this point people willing to take experimental drugs should be allowed if they want to even though we don't know what's going to happen with many of them.

I feel like its alright to make an exception for this, we are running out of options it seems. It would be very unfortunate to have an adapting virus as we are trying to vaccine/antibody it -- delay. What else can you do? Wait years for the proper testing then...?
 

commedieu

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Well, you're the one taking shots at others who said they can't just flip a switch and start giving people experimental treatment NOW.

No one was talking about flipping a switch, stop trying to start an issue for no reason other than you being bored with your life. I don't believe in any way that it is a switch that can be pulled. Immediacy is the best option for treatment, and its happening.
 

commedieu

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I imagine that this is the first time they've really had an opportunity to study the virus as they continue to try to find a remedy.

Nah, the definition of ebolas symptoms are universal.. They removed most of the most observed symptoms (the %'s next to the symptoms in previous post). http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/ebola-virus/Pages/Ebola-virus.aspx#symptoms Or any other source.

They removed the symptoms, plain and simple. All of those omitted reasons are red flags for you to have ebola/and go get checked out at a doctor.

Why they are even updating it to remove symptoms is anyones guess. But, the fact is that they removed the symptoms that are the known historic symptoms of ebola. The CDC hasn't announced new findings into the virus, there is no reason from research that they've removed observable ebola symptoms.

Could be a mistake, but who on earth is uploading a truncated .html file of all times.

Also, the CDC is very familiar with Ebola. They have a patent for their own strain.
 

Nivash

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They haven't "removed" symptoms, they updated the list of what symptoms to present to the public by narrowing down the list to symptoms that are both common and reasonably specific. If you take a look at that list you posted earlier, all of the symptoms listed as having above 50 % prevalence are still there, with a soar throat being the only exception.

And there's a reason for that: it's not a helpful symptom. The people who have a soar throat due to a cold will vastly outnumber any Ebola patients. There's also an added bonus with the short list in that the remaining symptoms are red flags for other dangerous infections, such as meningitis, which would need to be treated anyway.
 
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