Giganotosaurus please.
It was already on that crappy PS1 game, make it canon please.
No.
It was already on that crappy PS1 game, make it canon please.
No.
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JURASSIC WORLD a 'sci-fi terror adventure 22yrs after JP' News/Rumors/Info thread
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Good. Featherless dino's. As it should be.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Quite lame if there are no feathered dinosaurs, it'd show a lack of guts from the production.
A mix of both types would be the best option. Maybe leave the classics featherless and introduce new feathered species.
Messofanego
Banned
People who don't want feathers on dinos are basically anti-science, right? 
Sharkeisha
Banned
they're the same as them pro intelligent design people.People who don't want feathers on dinos are basically anti-science, right?
Haha. At this point, Jurassic Park has long ditched its 'scientifically interesting' aspects, so I'm not bothered. If they just want to create a scary, dinosaur-related movie that continues on with the tradition of non-feathered dino's from previous movies, then I think that's ok.People who don't want feathers on dinos are basically anti-science, right?
Cow Mengde
Banned
We have evidence that pretty much every branch of theropoda had feathers. Even Marginocephalia branch had filaments on their tail.
CloudyTuba
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This is actually something touched upon in the original book. Not feathers specifically, but that idea of reality vs expectation.
When creating the dinos for the park, Hammond and the chief geneticist Henry Wu argue over how they should be created.
Wu wants to create the Dinosaurs that people want and expect to see. Big slow lumbering giants. As the man putting their DNA back together, it's within his power to do so.
Hammond argues that they should create the real deal. As it turns out, dinosaurs aren't as slow and lumbering as the public would imagine. Even the T-Rex is fast and agile. Hammond's the boss, so he wins.
Of course this comes back to bite him in the ass later (har har har). And in the end as everyone knows, the foreign DNA used to fill in the gaps modifies the end result anyway.
Wait a minute, they're going with animatronics and clay-mation again? Oh wow, this could be better than I expected.
Rodney McKay
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As long as it's better than JP3. Some of that animatronic stuff was pretty lame.
I mentioned this in another dinosaur thread, but feathers on theropods aren't the only thing this movie needs to get right about dinosaurs. The original Jurassic Park went for a very dull greenish-brown shade of dinosaur skin, but evolution's winners tend to opt for more fanciful colorations, be it for reasons of sexual selection, as warnings to would be predators, mimicry, or camouflage. Compare Jurassic Park dinosaurs:
To modern reptiles:
Or very close relatives, birds:
You could even compare a deinonychus or utahraptor to an animal that occupies a similar ecological niche, like the tiger:
The closest analog to the Jurassic Park dinosaur colors would be the relatively black and dull coloration of crocodilians, and that's mostly due to their lack of choice in the matter. They need the black coloration to absorb the sunlight since they're ectotherms, but dinosaurs didn't have that limitation and would be free to have proliferate colorations.
To modern reptiles:
Or very close relatives, birds:
You could even compare a deinonychus or utahraptor to an animal that occupies a similar ecological niche, like the tiger:
The closest analog to the Jurassic Park dinosaur colors would be the relatively black and dull coloration of crocodilians, and that's mostly due to their lack of choice in the matter. They need the black coloration to absorb the sunlight since they're ectotherms, but dinosaurs didn't have that limitation and would be free to have proliferate colorations.
Messofanego
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Yeah, hoping for more colour. There are quite a number of ways they can make this new Jurassic Park feel fresh, but I don't see any hint of them trying it.
Demoncarnotaur
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Some times a lot of color looks bad on screen as CG/Animatronic, so while it would be nice to see it, it may also backfire. I would personally like to see more color as well, but still more subdued.. This Komodo Dragon sports a nice range of colors while still staying closer to the Jurassic Park color pallet:
That said, I do expect retuning species to stick with their established color schemes, while new Dinosaurs may be a little more adventurous.
That said, I do expect retuning species to stick with their established color schemes, while new Dinosaurs may be a little more adventurous.
Let's be real. It's going to be nearly all CG dinos.
No, the clay model is for reference and animatics. The movie will be CG dinos with animatronic ones where necessary/more advantageous.
Demoncarnotaur
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Jurassic World... Coming to Islands of Adventure(?)
Will JURASSIC WORLD feature and open, operational park? New information on the future of the ISLANDS OF ADVENTURE theme park in Orlando, Florida says yes. Rumors of of an expansion at Jurassic Park in IOA have been circulating for a while now, with insiders such as HateToFly sharing as much information as possible. Recently a source close to JurassicWorld.org shared new, juicy information: the expansion is being directly influenced by the new film. While our source didnt share specifics, we do have a decent idea of what is in store thanks to HateToFly via Orlando United forums. However, we have learned that the iconic JURASSIC PARK gates will likely be updated to reflect the new films title, JURASSIC WORLD.
The new expansions is said to feature two new rides along with numerous tweaks and upgrades throughout the park. The primary ride of the expansion is said be a smaller scale, family Wooden Coaster. This ride will not be disguised as something else (it was apparently originally themed as an Amber Mine adventure), but will visually match the Jurassic style. According to HateToFly it will be A small family oriented terrain hugging coaster creation with rock work, water features, and 2 AA's with custom themed timber liner trains. The other new attraction is said to be a simple Jurassic themed flat, and will likely be a carousel. Disneyhead has described it as a Dino-themed carousel that would act as sort of a center piece for the expansion. Alongside these new attractions it is expected that new stores/restaurants may appear, and many of the existing ones will see upgrades and changes. Its not clear where they will be featured, but it has been said that at least one of the Triceratops from the Triceratops Encounter will be featured. To better understand the changes coming to IOA we drew up this simple picture.
As you can see, the solid lined JP expansion plot is where Triceratops Encounter originally sat. It is said the Wooden Coaster will likely wrap back, perhaps into the dotted expansion plot. Also pictured is the SKULL ISLAND/KONG expansion plot (originally home to a potential larger JP expansion), which intersects with the current JP plot. It is likely this will cause for the removal of the current JP entry-gate, and have it moved and upgraded to JW. Ultimately, the new expansion (aiming for 2014) will be a livelier and larger Jurassic experience, and we are told some of the new additions have counterparts in the JURASSIC WORLD film!
It's important to note that the expansion plans are still ongoing, and ever changing and as such certain details may change by the time it finally comes to life.
MoonsaultSlayer
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Hypothetical discussion of part of the plot that may or may not be true:
A lion tamer type of show would be really fun to see, especially when shit hits the fan. In a way, it would make the audience root for the animals even more much like those who oppose circuses and the like.
Now I'll be sad if it isn't included...
bengraven
Member
Didn't they already say that the T-rex wouldn't be tame.
Or that even though he was "tamed" that he would be unleashed later and take it out on his people?
Edit:
August 13: In an interview, Colin Trevorrow confirms that the "tamed dinosaurs" was not one of the real ideas for Jurassic Park 4.
BONUS: March 20: According to a Tweet by Colin Trevorrow, there will be no feathered dinosaurs in this film.
Or that even though he was "tamed" that he would be unleashed later and take it out on his people?
Edit:
August 13: In an interview, Colin Trevorrow confirms that the "tamed dinosaurs" was not one of the real ideas for Jurassic Park 4.
BONUS: March 20: According to a Tweet by Colin Trevorrow, there will be no feathered dinosaurs in this film.
bengraven
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Why dead? It's only had one bad film really.
The issue is that they refuse to take it out of Spielberg's hands and he doesn't care about it anymore. He's made it abundanty clear he likes the films, but keeps a distance on them and acts like it's a burden to have to do one, while there are plenty of people who would take over for him to do a guaranteed blockbuster film.
Kill it? Why, because it's dad isn't around much anymore? That's harsh.
BobTheFork
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People who don't want feathers on dinos are basically anti-science, right?
I don't think I want science anywhere near this movie. We've done that (and apparently got it wrong) so just keep the designs similar to the series and have a few people get bitten in half.
MoonsaultSlayer
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Honestly, I think the compys in TLW were more akin to how I imagine velociraptors behaving. Timid yet extremely curious and lethal in numbers. So having a dino-tamer show with 2 would be ok. Now if we're talking the oversized raptors of the previous films, having one vicious enough to create a spectacle but easily controlled with slabs of meat and those animal catching wire leash things would be ok too.
Out of all the Dinosaurs I hope the Rex is mostly left untouched, it's look and sound is pretty damn iconic and even if it isn't 100% "accurate" (did Rex's have feathers?) it still looks fucking badass. I'm fine with them changing it's colour to something other then brown though.
RustyNails
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Is this the reboot that has mechanized dinosaurs with weapons?
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Wishful thinking.
Thanks for the OP and all of the updates. Hoping the 2015 release is held to, and with them shooting in May, hopefully it will be.
And I would be sad if they just added feathers to all of the dinos, they already established a look for the series. But if they added some feathered dinos and maybe some "new" models of the existing types as feathered for trying to match science it could be alright.
And I would be sad if they just added feathers to all of the dinos, they already established a look for the series. But if they added some feathered dinos and maybe some "new" models of the existing types as feathered for trying to match science it could be alright.
I can only hope the new film is as entertaining as this.
Mr_Antimatter
Member
I'm personally hoping for a Talibanisarus Rex like plot myself, and not just for the awesome mock poster of it.
Seriously though, i'm not sure what level of hype to expect here. Part of the allure of the original was how mindblowing it was back in the day, in terms of effects. But today, realistic looking creatures in CG is basically common.
If anything, a return to mostly practical effects, combined with selected use of CG, would make it feel the most natural, just like the original was. For every dino shown, the audience should have to guess if its real or CG.
Keep the plot a 'one moment into the future' sort of thing as well.
For example, people know about dinosaurs living after the events of the second movie. Why not have part of it focus on the abuses that result? Poachers, trill seekers, private collectors, classes between those who want to preserve them, those who want to wipe them out, and those who just want to profit off them.
Heck, the whole 'genie out of the bottle' angle could be explored. Science brought back millions of years dead species. Can it bring back others? Should it? Heck, can it even be stopped now? What about the dinos, can the parks be brought back to order, can the spread of the animals be stopped?
Seriously though, i'm not sure what level of hype to expect here. Part of the allure of the original was how mindblowing it was back in the day, in terms of effects. But today, realistic looking creatures in CG is basically common.
If anything, a return to mostly practical effects, combined with selected use of CG, would make it feel the most natural, just like the original was. For every dino shown, the audience should have to guess if its real or CG.
Keep the plot a 'one moment into the future' sort of thing as well.
For example, people know about dinosaurs living after the events of the second movie. Why not have part of it focus on the abuses that result? Poachers, trill seekers, private collectors, classes between those who want to preserve them, those who want to wipe them out, and those who just want to profit off them.
Heck, the whole 'genie out of the bottle' angle could be explored. Science brought back millions of years dead species. Can it bring back others? Should it? Heck, can it even be stopped now? What about the dinos, can the parks be brought back to order, can the spread of the animals be stopped?
Holy shit that Tippet?!!!
He looked like this in JP
brandonh83
Banned
Oh, the slew of people who are going to hate just because Neill and (probably) Goldblum won't be in it.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
^ As much as I love Grant/Malcolm, I could not realistically buy their characters getting involved again.. Perhaps Malcolm due to his attraction to chaos, but a fresh cast is a good move. I do hope some familiar faces like Tim/Lex/Dodgson make a return though.
And now he looks like a badass Santa.
Holy shit that Tippet?!!!
He looked like this in JP
And now he looks like a badass Santa.
thecouncil
Banned
that sucks. grant is a great character.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
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The only old characters I could see returning is Tim and Lex. I wouldn't mind an all new cast though.
FunkyPajamas
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His movie? Ron Howard isn't directing.
He should be the narrator
The perfect Dark
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So they didn't ask him...
Particle Physicist
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The synopsis sounds pretty bad. :/
sixteen-bit
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How about Goldblum?
metzger203
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UnforgivenTwin
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I really hope this movie is good, but im not so sure.
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