That was honestly evident from jumpYeah, Martin from Double Toasted described it that way and honestly after hearing that it really doesn't bother me all that much anymore.
Raimi's spiderman has more heart than just about all of the MCU
Yup.All this thread has done is further convince me that there will never be a "perfect" Spider-Man movie because Spider-Man means something different to everybody, and everyone has different criteria for what constitutes an "accurate" Spider-Man film. So every one of his movies is going to have a significant "Not my Spider-Man" contingent arguing against it.
Also yup.Sam Raimi clearly loved the early Lee/Ditko/Romita Spider-Man, and aside from Spidey being mostly silent in his movies I think he nailed that incarnation of the character pretty well. Spider-Man 2 is a fantastic film.
All this thread has done is further convince me that there will never be a "perfect" Spider-Man movie because Spider-Man means something different to everybody, and everyone has different criteria for what constitutes an "accurate" Spider-Man film. So every one of his movies is going to have a significant "Not my Spider-Man" contingent arguing against it. Like I'm sure a lot of people became fans from reading the comics, but what does that even mean? Spider-Man comics have had a lot of cooks in the kitchen over the decades, and each creative team brought their own flavor that some people will swear by and others won't. Bendis' Ultimate Spider-Man is now old enough to be many people's childhood Spidey, and he is a much different character than the Spidey that Stan Lee wrote. I mean, even Spidey under JMS' pen is remarkably different than he is as currently written by Dan Slott.
That said, I personally think the idea some people have brought up that Spider-Man 2 isn't true to the comics is laughable. It follows Amazing Spider-Man #50 practically beat for beat (even bits like Peter ignoring a crime in progress shortly after he gives up being Spider-Man, and rescuing someone as Peter Parker shortly before deciding to become Spider-Man again are in the comic). Outside of the opening fight scene he doesn't really crack jokes in the original issue either, spending most of the story in angst. The psychosomatic loss of powers angle (and Doc Ock as the antagonist) in the movie is right from Amazing Spider-Man Annual #1, which also had an undercurrent of Peter wanting to just have a normal life.
Sam Raimi clearly loved the early Lee/Ditko/Romita Spider-Man, and aside from Spidey being mostly silent in his movies I think he nailed that incarnation of the character pretty well. Spider-Man 2 is a fantastic film.
So I guess you've never seen the Captain America movies then?
He spends 3 films centered around saving Bucky and saying fuck all to everything else.
I really don't see how people get away with these silly comments. The MCU films are getting progressively more diverse, and some are pretty deep."Shallow" is the perfect word to describe most MCU films.
I really don't see how people get away with these silly comments. The MCU films are getting progressively more diverse, and some are pretty deep.
Raimi's sentimental shtick got so tired by the third film.
I really don't see how people get away with these silly comments. The MCU films are getting progressively more diverse, and some are pretty deep.
Raimi's sentimental shtick got so tired by the third film.
God damn, while I love these movies, I haven't watched them in a bit. Just saw Homecoming, I liked it.Yeah, watched this exact scene on YouTube a few days ago and forgot what a gut punch it was out of nowhere. Loved Homecoming, has me buying Spider-man comics once again, but it didn't elicit an emotion in me anywhere near as strongly as the scene in question.
Edit: Scene on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjokjB5VGjg
God damn, while I love these movies, I haven't watched them in a bit. Just saw Homecoming, I liked it.
But this scene alone made me feel. Such wonderful films. So much heart.
Logan is made by FOX, but I completely agree with the other two sentences. Think I'm give SP2 another view tonight while I work.Nearly all the Marvel movies lack emotional impact. Highly entertaining but forgettable.
Logan is the most recent exception.
No, they really aren't aside from WS.I really don't see how people get away with these silly comments. The MCU films are getting progressively more diverse, and some are pretty deep.
Raimi's sentimental shtick got so tired by the third film.
It's really good at hammering down why you should care for these characters and what exactly drives them.
Nearly all the Marvel movies lack emotional impact. Highly entertaining but forgettable.
Logan is the most recent exception.
I really don't see how people get away with these silly comments. The MCU films are getting progressively more diverse, and some are pretty deep.
Raimi's sentimental shtick got so tired by the third film.
They say it cuz it's an easy drive-by post to make.
"Shallow" is the perfect word to describe most MCU films.
I really don't see how people get away with these silly comments. The MCU films are getting progressively more diverse, and some are pretty deep.
Raimi's sentimental shtick got so tired by the third film.
Correct!They say it cuz it's an easy drive-by post to make.