TheExodu5 said:So my vent sub is running out, and I think I might switch over to Mumble to try it. What are some good hosts?
rohlfinator said:I just set up a server last night after hearing a lot of hype here and elsewhere, and so far I'm impressed. Server setup was unexpectedly easy on Ubuntu.
I usually use my friend's Vent server, but we've always had a few issues with volume, background noise, and delay, and so far Mumble seems to be handling those a lot better. I'm hoping that'll be enough to convince the rest of the crew to switch.
The ACL thing was a little intimidating at first, but I think I'm getting the hang of it. Is there a way to set it up so that idle players get moved to an 'AFK' channel after a while?
Ah, thanks. ICE looks pretty complicated, I'll probably just run vanilla Mumble for a while and see how it goes.vertopci said:You would probably need ICE installed in order to do something like that.
Are you sure you didn't mess up some of your own settings? I generally feel like I am in the same room as some of the regulars.TheExodu5 said:I never liked the quality settings in the NeoGAF mumble server, as I found everyone sounded very robotic and unnatural. I'll see if I can come up with settings that sound good but don't go too heavy on bandwidth. Speex sounds very good at 5kB/s...bur it may be difficult to get CELT sounding good at a similar bandwidth level. And if I stay with Speex, there is little point in moving to Mumble. I'll report back with my findings. If anyone had any tips, I'm all ears.
Stallion Free said:Are you sure you didn't mess up some of your own settings? I generally feel like I am in the same room as some of the regulars.
TheExodu5 said:Alright I'll be ordering a server this week to test out quality and codecs before I make the switch.
I never liked the quality settings in the NeoGAF mumble server, as I found everyone sounded very robotic and unnatural. I'll see if I can come up with settings that sound good but don't go too heavy on bandwidth. Speex sounds very good at 5kB/s...bur it may be difficult to get CELT sounding good at a similar bandwidth level. And if I stay with Speex, there is little point in moving to Mumble. I'll report back with my findings. If anyone had any tips, I'm all ears.
garath said:What host did you end up going with? I've been using typefrag for my vent hosting for years and years but they don't seem to offer mumble hosting.
Care to list those things?corkscrewblow said:Vent is so much better than Mumble. Mumble wins with no lag but vent is better for pretty much everything else.
I found this riveting. Kind of reminds me of that time I read about Stockholm Syndrome.TheExodu5 said:Nope. Not switching to Mumble. Tried it out with my friends today, and none of us were happy with it. If it were a big improvement over Vent, sure, but it just isn't.
The CELT codec, honestly, sounds really bad. Even at the highest quality setting. I know these people in real life, and while the voice quality on Mumble gives the impression of being high quality (with lots of high frequencies), my friends just simply don't sound like they do in real life. Everything sounds tinier and more robotic (again, even with 96kbps output per person).
Speex codec tunes out some high frequencies, but otherwise, everything sounds completely natural. Now, I realize I could use Speex with Mumble, but then it becomes Ventrilo with an interface my friends aren't familiar with, and features we'll never use (positional audio, in game overlay). To get the benefit of low ping voice, you need to use the CELT codec. Also, I measured the delay difference in between Mumble (at the 10ms setting) and Vent (Speex 10 quality @ 5KB/s upload), and the difference was roughly 30ms. Decent, but nothing that's really noticeable in real world usage.
I've been very happy with my current vent host (InstantVentrilo aka LightSpeedGaming), and it seems they offer lifetime packages on their site now for $10 a slot (up to 35 slots). I'll probably get a lifetime 10 or 15 slot at the moment. Who knows how long they'll be around for...but it'll only take me 2 years to recoup the investment, so why not.
Yeah, don't know what's your problem with Vent but I never have a ping higher than 30ms, and the same goes for my guildmates. You can notice when someone doesn't use earphones, I can hear my own voice overlapping almost matching my words.TheExodu5 said:Lots of misinformation in the OP. Vent can sound quite good at proper codec settings (Speex quality 10, 5kb/sec). Anything higher is far too much of a burden on people's Internet connections (though Mumble supports up to 15kb/sec).
Vent also has far less than a second delay for me. I have a ping of 20 to my server.
Not saying Mumble isn't good...it's just that for the price I'm paying, I have absolutely no reason to switch.
But yes, voice chat software like this is so great. My friends and I log on to vent any time we're on. So much more seamless and community friendly than something like Skype.
Owensboro said:....god, I sound like I'm getting paid for this.
Neo Child said:I don't have any online friends =[
But if i did i would use this for Left4Dead2.
Grampasso said:Yeah, don't know what's your problem with Vent but I never have a ping higher than 30ms, and the same goes for my guildmates. You can notice when someone doesn't use earphones, I can hear my own voice overlapping almost matching my words.
I hope at least Mumble is paying you for shitting the other programs
Littlegator said:Any chance I could get a Runescape channel? >_>
Tyrant, we might as well call you Ventopci, with a capital V.vertopci said:Uh...I suppose
MoFuzz said:Tyrant, we might as well call you Ventopci, with a capital V.
<3MoFuzz said:Tyrant, we might as well call you Ventopci, with a capital V.
vertopci said:I'm gonna kill you fuzz
kagete said:Is it possible to also get Move privileges for the Heroes of Downtime channel?
I'm always on and have dual monitors and always see people staying in the wrong teams after we group up and start the games.
Nabs said:Register your username (Self > Register) and I'll set it up.
that's Mr. Nab to you.kagete said:Looks like i have the move privileges. Thanks Nab!
davepoobond said:when i tried mumble it was very processor intensive compared to vent and people sounded like robots more often than not. it was nice not having to worry about volume adjustment for each individual but it was a pretty terrible experience using mumble, honestly.
so i give it a thumbs down.
You were dropping packets...davepoobond said:when i tried mumble it was very processor intensive compared to vent and people sounded like robots more often than not. it was nice not having to worry about volume adjustment for each individual but it was a pretty terrible experience using mumble, honestly.
davepoobond said:when i tried mumble it was very processor intensive compared to vent and people sounded like robots more often than not. it was nice not having to worry about volume adjustment for each individual but it was a pretty terrible experience using mumble, honestly.
so i give it a thumbs down.
Damn...a176 said:Max 75 Users