The Lamonster
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My takeaway as well.
I agree that the numbers are too close, but I disagree that the optimism is blind confidence. I think we're all actually shitting our pants and the optimism on display is more like hope.
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New PPP Polls: Clinton winning WI, NH, PA, OH, IA, losing AZ
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balladofwindfishes
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Where the polls showed a clear tossup and the results were well within the margin of error?
GutsOfThor
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I'm a Clinton supporter but in no way am I overconfident. I'm actually extremely concerned about their being a silent majority with trump. One of my friends who has never voted and who doesn't follow politics said he'll probably vote for trump because he's different. How many people are out there that echo this sentiment?
I want nothing more this year than to be proven wrong.
Sectorseven
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Considering these have been a couple of the worst weeks of his campaign, I was expecting wider margins.
RPGCrazied
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Lol, Trump has no chance. Republicans if smart would boot his ass at the convention. He isn't winning.
Cesare Borgia
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Meanwhile Trump has visited Scottland more than most of the swing states. It almost seems like deliberate sabotage at this point.
He has no advertising up in major states and no ground campaigns set up anywhere in the country. It's almost July. This is unparalleled in modern US election history. Meanwhile he's not raising money, he refuses to engage donors, and his campaign is is disarray. How long before he fires the one competent person he has (Manafort) and really goes off the cliff?
He has no advertising up in major states and no ground campaigns set up anywhere in the country. It's almost July. This is unparalleled in modern US election history. Meanwhile he's not raising money, he refuses to engage donors, and his campaign is is disarray. How long before he fires the one competent person he has (Manafort) and really goes off the cliff?
RPGCrazied
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And it was to play golf.....
I think it really is quite possible that at this point he has absolutely no intention of winning, and just considers this the greatest branding campaign of all time.
Joe Shlabotnik
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The debates would be a massacre, but part of the reason it feels like the race would be even more out of reach is because the GOP has trained its sights off of him and onto Clinton.
If Hillary took herself out of the running years ago and it was Biden or third-term God-Emperor Obama running this year, we'd be musing the same things about Hillary and her 60% approval rating.
ebullientprism
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4% in a bunch of places in the OP is a toss up and well within the margin of error.
Bam Chowder
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As someone who grew up in Iowa, I am hoping beyond all hope that Grassley is defeated. I swear that he has just gotten by on name recognition alone for far too long. I will be pushing all my friends and family in Iowa to vote against him this year.
I believe the heat drives people crazy.
eBay Huckster
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considering this is the most polarized era of american politics since the 19th century i'm not expecting the margins to get much wider
Ron Jonson is fucked, holy shit. Didn't see the gap being quite that bad.
I was reading something politico this morning that he's making more concerted investments into data operations, and may have actually had more infrastructure in place the last few months than his campaign let on. The downside being that he doesn't really have anyone on staff that can interpret that data!
I was reading something politico this morning that he's making more concerted investments into data operations, and may have actually had more infrastructure in place the last few months than his campaign let on. The downside being that he doesn't really have anyone on staff that can interpret that data!
Box of Kittens
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Not really.
balladofwindfishes
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There were no consistent Brexit polls showing one option always in the lead by varying margins.
Polls of Hillary vs Trump have been consistently showing her beating Trump by 5+ margins for a solid month now. Even some of the most right leaning polls like Rasmussen show Hillary leading.
BobTheFork
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"Accurate data" just sounds like the leftist cousin of 'fact checking'
It's about how much data you get and Drumpf will have way more data then Hillary. Better Data!
It's a lose lose for them. They stick with him not only do they get crushed, but it kills their already damaged appearance. If they pull him it'll incite riots and a major divide in the party.
Flying Toaster
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Arizona does not surprise me.
The city of Phoenix is democrats but the Phoenix metro area (suburb cities) are republican. Tucson and Flagstaff is democrats.
I can actually see Arizona turning as a swing state though. Mesa is becoming more and more Latino and the upcoming next block of voters in their 30's are more liberal than conservative. McCain has one more term in him and then that seat is up for grabs.
The city of Phoenix is democrats but the Phoenix metro area (suburb cities) are republican. Tucson and Flagstaff is democrats.
I can actually see Arizona turning as a swing state though. Mesa is becoming more and more Latino and the upcoming next block of voters in their 30's are more liberal than conservative. McCain has one more term in him and then that seat is up for grabs.
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