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And games are more samey than ever.
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"PS4 is better than PS3, Last gen was the worst!"
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SlashBringingHasher
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why.? don't you like every game being a 3rd person action adventure cinematic story experience?.
Breakfast at Noon
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How bad can a opinion be..
BlueLyria
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The combat speed and lack of shield coupled with the setting does make a really unique exprience compared to other souls games, It's one of the best games in the ps4 library and sincerely it's not that overhyped.
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PS3 easily for me. The most notable PS4 games for me are honestly remakes of past gen games, the Crash N Sane Trilogy and Nathan Drake Collection. Uncharted 4, Abzu, and Prey are really the only ones that stood out to me otherwise, and only Uncharted 4 is a PS4 exclusive.
PS3 has the entire Mass Effect trilogy, 1/2 being some of my favorite games ever, and HD collections of some of my favorite PS2 games--the Jak/Daxter Collection, Sly Collection, and Ratchet/Clank Collection. I'll also give it credit for originally making the Uncharted games, even though PS4 is the more enjoyable way to play them due to the increased FPS. Infamous 2 is pretty good also, and Demon's Souls isn't bad.
PS3 also has a great virtual console library. I can play pretty much every PS1 game I want through the PS Store. PS4 just doesn't have anything close to this.
So I guess exclusive wise neither of them are huge for me, but overall PS4 is ok, PS3 is better.
PS3 has the entire Mass Effect trilogy, 1/2 being some of my favorite games ever, and HD collections of some of my favorite PS2 games--the Jak/Daxter Collection, Sly Collection, and Ratchet/Clank Collection. I'll also give it credit for originally making the Uncharted games, even though PS4 is the more enjoyable way to play them due to the increased FPS. Infamous 2 is pretty good also, and Demon's Souls isn't bad.
PS3 also has a great virtual console library. I can play pretty much every PS1 game I want through the PS Store. PS4 just doesn't have anything close to this.
So I guess exclusive wise neither of them are huge for me, but overall PS4 is ok, PS3 is better.
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Meh. So other combat system. Still, it’s not a completely new experience. If this game was also on other platforms and not just on PS4 it would NEVER get that hype.
Seriously. So sick of this.
Like uncharted 4. yes, graphics are good but the game itself is utter shit. Still, during its release it was hyped af. Lol
BlueLyria
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Maybe it would be in the same position Sekiro is right now, although i do agree with you, Uncharted 4 was super hyped and quickly forgotten, but i believe that has to do with the change of direction that happened mid development during Uncharted 3 (The weakest one imo). As for the "completely new experience", yeah, but not every game needs to reinvent the wheel, just be competent at what they do.
What is up with your crap lists that always miss PS4 games? Where is Dreams, where is resogun where is alienation? Your sony bashing threads without facts are getting tiresome.
GametimeUK
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PS3 wins it easily for me. Unpopular opinion, but it was my fave generation of consoles.
Hypereides
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I agree, OP. Which is one of the reasons I'm still hanging onto the PS3 and have been on the fence through this generation about buying a console. Looking at this generation from a PS3 owner's perspective, I honestly can't fathom how people justify buying any of the current gen consoles. The libraries overall have been hilariously small and lackluster. I almost think the AAA industry suckered people into buying one.
What's more is that Shawn Layden seems to insinuate that Sony's next gen offerings will be even smaller: http://archive.is/sncrd
I can understand to a degree why people tend to claim the PS3/360 generation to be "the worst" since it introduced the ridiculous microtransaction gravy train by publishers. But, other than that, its like willingly overlooking the good things that came out of it.
I can't tell if this suppose to be a joke or not.
What's more is that Shawn Layden seems to insinuate that Sony's next gen offerings will be even smaller: http://archive.is/sncrd
I can understand to a degree why people tend to claim the PS3/360 generation to be "the worst" since it introduced the ridiculous microtransaction gravy train by publishers. But, other than that, its like willingly overlooking the good things that came out of it.
I can't tell if this suppose to be a joke or not.
SlashBringingHasher
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thats already almost quarter the ps4 library.
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Chairman Tickles
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Is this a complete list of PS4 exclusives?
Red Crayon Aristocrat
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Nope, nothing was more samey than 2009 to 2012 where so many games were trying to be like Call of Duty, aiming down iron sights type games.
Geki-D
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Of course not. It's not even a complete list of all the games Sony studios have made.
Boss Mog
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The quality of PS4 exclusives is WAY higher than that of PS3 exclusives. I prefer quality over quantity.
As for third party multiplatform games, I would say they were probably better last gen. There was a lot more innovation, new IPs, trying new concepts and most of it worked. This gen seems to be more about about playing it safe and upping the graphics.
As for third party multiplatform games, I would say they were probably better last gen. There was a lot more innovation, new IPs, trying new concepts and most of it worked. This gen seems to be more about about playing it safe and upping the graphics.
brap
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Things really aren't much different and now we have even less to choose from. At least back then I could play a bunch of AA games like Singularity or Inversion. Now it's either play horizon, days gone, tlou, ubisoft games or get lost because everything takes forever to make.
Red Crayon Aristocrat
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No offense, but you have to keep in mind that gaming has always been an ebb and flow, there's always been good games and bad games, innovative games and cookie cutter wannabes.
Nostalgia makes people think the past was better than it was the present is worse than it really is.
I'm guilty of that too, I look back on the 6th gen for example as a golden age, but I forget all the GTA clones and wannabees like True Crime: Streets of LA or NARC and all the shitty movie tie in games, so even when games were hitting creative highs like Silent Hill 2, Silent Hill 3 and Rule of Rose, there was still a lot of crap.
Hypereides
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This is the saddest part of it all. I genuinely miss the mid-size/AA studios. At least they tried to experiment and attempted different things. AAA games are so stagnant its sad.
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KormaChameleon
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Don't even get me started with PS3 online quality. I once had a beta code for Medal of Honor (2011). It took me 3 hours to download the game itself then another 2 hours just to download and install the patch. When I got the 360 version of the beta. It took me 20 minutes in total to download and play. I had decent internet at the time when living with my parents.
No, the guy lists LBP1 and LBP2 for PS3 but can't conjure up the typing power to type LBP3 on the PS4 list.
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-MD-
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God no, it's not even top 3.
Is this really the whole PS4 list? It's pathetic when typed out like this lmao.
The only games I'd even recommend to someone are Gravity Rush and Bloodborne. I'd erase the rest of the list from history forever just for a port of Twisted Metal 2012 on PS4.
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brap
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You could ignore 25 Ta Life and 187 Ride Or Die and go play a million other games. Even a lot of the licensed games during that era were fun. And what's so special about SH and Rule of Rose? There were probably like 30 survival horror games alone on PS2. Probably more than the GTA clones. What I'm trying to say is if you don't wanna play Thug Lyfe II: Ride Fa A Nigga you had a ton of variety. Now it's all 'uhhh I guess I'll play 428 or Yakuza because I'm not interested in third person cinematic emotional survival crafting experience'. Even Nintendo made one of those goddamn games.
Red Crayon Aristocrat
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You could ignore 25 Ta Life and 187 Ride Or Die and go play a million other games. Even a lot of the licensed games during that era were fun. And what's so special about SH and Rule of Rose? There were probably like 30 survival horror games alone on PS2. Probably more than the GTA clones. What I'm trying to say is if you don't wanna play Thug Lyfe II: Ride Fa A Nigga you had a ton of variety. Now it's all 'uhhh I guess I'll play 428 or Yakuza because I'm not interested in third person cinematic emotional survival crafting experience'. Even Nintendo made one of those goddamn games.
6th gen horror games are my jam.
Not sure what you're trying to prove with that pic, because the fact that were so many of those type of games on PS2 is one of the things I miss about that gen.
Fushitsusha
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My fondness of Bloodborne has nothing to do with the name on the box being played on. How does that change the quality of the game?
SlashBringingHasher
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I think so
brap
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They're all the same genre. Something that you were just complaining about.
Red Crayon Aristocrat
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"Genre" is a pretty broad category.
Games can be in the same genre and still feel pretty unique from one another, especially when it's something as general as "horror"
SlashBringingHasher
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Console gaming no longer needs volume exclusive variety. You make money from 3rd party mtx and ps+.
Oh. And btw. This includes the future PS4 games lol
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Geki-D
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RE4 & RE Outbreak aren't only in the same genre, they're in the same franchise yet have gameplay so massively different from one another they're uncomparable...
Lies. He knows it's not.
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Red Crayon Aristocrat
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My point exactly.
brap
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I didn't make the image. I wouldn't put Darkwatch on there either. The point is that there were a ton of survival horror games on PS2 just like CoD clones on PS3 and third person cinematic bs on PS4.
Survival Horror. But I guess Horror is such a broad genre and a shooting game isn't. Bioshock is totally the same as CoD which is totally the same as Crysis.
Red Crayon Aristocrat
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It's a head scratcher to me how someone could not prefer today to 2009-2012.
2009-2012 was the absolute bottom of the barrel for gaming, not that there weren't still standout games from then, but I think of crap like Resident Evil 5, Resident Evil 6, Ninja Gaiden 3 and so many other games chasing after the Call of Duty audience.
The last several years have marked a pretty clearly improvement from then if you ask me.
We're getting a little mixed up here, I'm not talking about genres, genres are very broad categories, I'm talking about more specific styles of games than just genres.
For example you have FPS, but then you have games clearly modeled after CoD, it's games clearly trying to imitate another specific game.
And yeah, survival horror was it's own genre with it's own tropes, sure, but it was still one that fostered a lot of creativity, you can't see the differences between say REmake, the Fatal Frame series, Silent Hill 2 and 3, Siren, Haunting Ground and Rule of Rose?
brap
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Ok yeah. Can't really argue with that. I remember most of that military stuff being PC only but idk. I don't have a good memory.
Fuck REmake for this discussion because it's a literal remake. Fatal Frame is camera shit, SH is running away shit, Siren is honestly a clusterfuck, Haunting Ground is running away and hiding shit, ROR is one of the most annoying games ever and doesn't really seem that different other than the fact it's populated by annoying ass children. This is honestly like me trying to explain emo music to some normie. 'b-but he screams like a girl, b-but this band has 2 singers, b-but this band uses guitar solos, b-but this band has breakdowns'. It's still third person horror themed games where you run away scared from things. Honestly idk if this makes any sense I'm tired. Like yeah they're a little different but not that different.
Geki-D
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Red Crayon Aristocrat
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They're all very different in terms of style, tone and story.
I mean damn, Rule of Rose has one of the most unique atmospheres and tones of any game I've played and Silent Hill 2 is I think gaming's crowing artistic achievement.
But I understand, you're one of those gamers more focused on the actual gameplay, that's fine, for me personally I look at games from a more artistic perspective, I judge it by the overall experience than just "is it fun to play?"
I mean I love fun as much as the next guy, but let's compare it to movies, a movie like The Deer Hunter is not something you'd watch for "fun", still doesn't change the fact that it's an incredible achievement, gaming needs that equivalent to art house movies as well.
xviper
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I can't think of anything that this gen does better then the ones before except maybe better technology
This gen is easily the worst, we are living in the dark age of gaming
-no creativity or new ideas, just repetitive games
-broken games
-F2P
-Battle royale
-games take too long to be released
-most games are open world with fetch quests
-most games release unfinished
-Too much remasters and remakes (very few were good like RE2 and Halo MCC)
-no more demos
-big arcade games used to be 10-15$ max on the ps3\x360 but now they are 30-40$
-Lack of good online multiplayer games
-Most online games have microtransactions
-Most online games don't get sequels, they get shitty expansions that makes you bored with it
-Xbox is dead thanks to microsoft and their "pLay EvEryWhEre"
And there is still much more to be mentioned, sometimes the gamers are the ones that ruin a game, not the devs, for an example, Friday the 13th, this games was fucking amazing, it was new, unique and insanely fun, it's one of the most fun online games ever made, but what did the "fans" do ? complain to the devs about every little thing until the devs ruined the game with patches and made it boring.
Another example is the new Avengers game, MCU fans (thank god i'm not one of them) are complaining about the game because the characters don't look like the actors, like What the fuck ? who gives a shit ? instead of focusing on things that makes the game better like i don't know, maybe the damn gameplay ? they focused on the most basic shit, same thing happened with BFV and their "HiStoRicalLy UnAccUraTe".
This gen was doomed from the beginning, i hope things change next gen (i doubt it)
This gen is easily the worst, we are living in the dark age of gaming
-no creativity or new ideas, just repetitive games
-broken games
-F2P
-Battle royale
-games take too long to be released
-most games are open world with fetch quests
-most games release unfinished
-Too much remasters and remakes (very few were good like RE2 and Halo MCC)
-no more demos
-big arcade games used to be 10-15$ max on the ps3\x360 but now they are 30-40$
-Lack of good online multiplayer games
-Most online games have microtransactions
-Most online games don't get sequels, they get shitty expansions that makes you bored with it
-Xbox is dead thanks to microsoft and their "pLay EvEryWhEre"
And there is still much more to be mentioned, sometimes the gamers are the ones that ruin a game, not the devs, for an example, Friday the 13th, this games was fucking amazing, it was new, unique and insanely fun, it's one of the most fun online games ever made, but what did the "fans" do ? complain to the devs about every little thing until the devs ruined the game with patches and made it boring.
Another example is the new Avengers game, MCU fans (thank god i'm not one of them) are complaining about the game because the characters don't look like the actors, like What the fuck ? who gives a shit ? instead of focusing on things that makes the game better like i don't know, maybe the damn gameplay ? they focused on the most basic shit, same thing happened with BFV and their "HiStoRicalLy UnAccUraTe".
This gen was doomed from the beginning, i hope things change next gen (i doubt it)
Red Crayon Aristocrat
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Again, 2009 to 2012 was way worse.
PumpkinPie
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Still waiting for OP to list some good PS3 games
kevin_trinh
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This gen has Bloodborne so yeah its the best gen
kiiltz
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Idk that period had the holy trinity of Uncharted 2, AC2 and ME2 so it wasn't too bad.
Geki-D
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Didn't you just imply in the post before this one that you pretty much stopped gaming this gen?:
I mean yeah, last gen was awesome when you've barely played anything this gen, I guess...
Red Crayon Aristocrat
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No, it wasn't too bad, as I said there were plenty of standout games (I would include Batman: Arkham Asylum/Arkham City, Alan Wake and Fallout New Vegas among them)
It's just if I had to pick a time as lamest in gaming that I've lived through, it would be that.
Although don't get me wrong, I don't hate it that much, it wasn't that it was that bad, it's just that I wouldn't consider that period anything special.
But that's my general point is that basically gaming has remained in a constant state, there's good games and bad games, in any era, it always boils down to good and bad game being released, there's not a single time period, including present day, in which you can say there's literally nothing but bad games being released.
People are letting nostalgia blind them to reality if they think present day is any sort of "dark ages" for gaming, Zelda: Breath of The Wild is as good a game as anything I've ever played.
Esppiral
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Last generation started in 2005 though and we got so many new franchises something you can quite say this gen
This generation is 90% secuels , reboots and remaster and we got gems like andromeda, fallout and so on...
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ROMhack
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I'm of the opinion that the quality of titles this gen was better but that last gen was more interesting to be part of.
For instance, indie games were a new thing last gen and were genuinely exciting to get behind. They're much better this gen but I'm so used to quality indie games now that I no longer feel the same excitement to get behind them. Then you have stuff like Heavy Rain, which at the time seemed phenomenally different (obviously ignoring Fahrenheit).
For instance, indie games were a new thing last gen and were genuinely exciting to get behind. They're much better this gen but I'm so used to quality indie games now that I no longer feel the same excitement to get behind them. Then you have stuff like Heavy Rain, which at the time seemed phenomenally different (obviously ignoring Fahrenheit).
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