ThreePiMatt
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It's funny considering Jeff has probably been professionally reviewing games since she was a toddler.
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Rooster Teeth berate Jeff Gerstmann/Giant Bomb's Fallout 4 review while...
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Jeff's take on games, particularly the ones I normally enjoy, is a bit too cynical for my taste. Despite that, I've always thought they were his opinions, his actual takeaways from playing the games in question.
I never thought he was just trying to be different, or going for the hot take to stir shit up.
I never thought he was just trying to be different, or going for the hot take to stir shit up.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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I can't wait to hear some sick beats on his live drive home today.
I will never forgive them for that bs Bayo 2 review
I don't always agree with Jeff's opinions but he has always been really damn good at explaining why he doesn't like something. You rarely ever feel like he's coming from an irrational, unjustified position.
Hot Coldman
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Lmao
ultratruman
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IISANDERII
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An infomercial type show on the internet
Haunted
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Because Anime.
potatohead
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He will influence the children!
Who cares though really....
People ought to already get past the point where reviews are either opinions, or worse.
So get over it. It's a videogame! You can decide if you like it or want to buy it reading or watching plenty of other material too
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Do you ever go on Instagram? RED hair, BLUE hair, PURPLE hair, RAINBOW colored hair. And not relegated to nerds either.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
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oh come on.
They are a production company and one of the most successful in finding an audience pre-YouTube. They don't do any critical coverage, but they were one of the pioneers of game streaming and produce tons of regular content.
TemplaerDude
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Rooster Teeth should stick to entertaining videos, they've always been really big fanboys of things they like. This kind of corporate shilling is pretty low for them.
He said, essentially, that it's still an enjoyable game but that it still has all the same problems that every other game they make has.
He said, essentially, that it's still an enjoyable game but that it still has all the same problems that every other game they make has.
MrCunningham
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Numbers aren't meaningless, as they can be used as part of a games marketing and do affect overall sales. The only reason why publishers give out "bonuses" is to push for higher review scores.
This is the reason why Giant Bomb was created to begin with. Gerstmann was fired from Gamespot for giving scores to games that he felt they deserved as opposed to the scores publishers were paying Gamespot for. The man was fired because of a low score that he gave to Kane & Lynch: Dead Men. Does anyone remember Kane & Lynch?
Yup. Shit Sux.
ZeroGravity
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A lot of people - and RT included in this it seems - cannot seem to wrap their head around the fact that someone can both like a game, and be critical of it too.
Yeah but people see that 3/5 for the console versions and jump to conclusions.
M0nochromatic
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Kazuhira Miller's chicken and dumplings.
Holy shit that's a lot of dislikes for a video. Having watched it, the dislikes are clearly warranted.
ultratruman
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An influential person who keeps it real will always be dangerous to this industry.
EdibleExplosives
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They make fun of Polygon in the same video.
Yes. He liked it a lot, especially on PC. 4/5 is a good score. Console versions are just a bit of a mess.
FunkyPajamas
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I remember the controversy but to be honest I never played the game since I didn't enjoy the demo (was there a demo for the first one, or am I thinking of the second one?).
He didn't give it a low score though, did he? I think it was a 6-7? I mean, it was lower than what marketing/eidos wanted, but not a low score in itself. It was... average.
ThreePiMatt
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Huh? I meant that Jeff has been reviewing since she (Meg Whatsherface, who made the comment) was a toddler.
Like some posted, there's that screen grab (from some Tetris documentary?)showing Jeff at CES in 1992. According to Meg's wiki, she was born in 1987.
Twin Tails
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Anime is to blame for everything.
Yes. He gave the PC version 4 stars.
Spring-Loaded
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8.8 all over again
DeepEnigma
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So first Bethesda blacklists Kotaku, then their main PR guy pretends there are no framerate issues, then doubles down in his BS and lies when being called out for it on Twitter, acting like a total dick to consumers, now this by RT who in which receives money, etc from them for services rendered...
Not hard to follow the potential character assassination and where it possibly originated from. My money is the hostile company.
Gaming has it's very own political warfare propaganda folks. Follow. The. Money trail.
Now you are ironically being targeted by said review. Too much of a coincidence.
Not hard to follow the potential character assassination and where it possibly originated from. My money is the hostile company.
Gaming has it's very own political warfare propaganda folks. Follow. The. Money trail.
Now you are ironically being targeted by said review. Too much of a coincidence.
MrCunningham
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Yeah, it wasn't really a low score. He gave the game a 6.0, which he deemed as "average". Eidos were upset because they paid for large Kane and Lynch banners that covered the entire Gamespot website. That put pressure on Gamespot to fire Gerstmann.
But we got Giant Bomb out of this. So it was a win, I suppose.
Hot Coldman
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Specifically, Gamespot had new management at the time who kind of went into headless-chicken mode when Eidos got mad, and they made the stupid call.
Messofanego
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Oh god, she's the same age as me and yet she's so immature about this like she was some teen from GameFAQs.
Sun Bather
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RoosterTeeth have been known to shill for companies. As if their Halo videos and years of promotion with Microsoft wasnt enough of a hint.
Its almost as bad as this.
subtle
So first Bethesda blacklists Kotaku, then their main PR guy pretends there are no framerate issues, then doubles down in his BS and lies when being called out for it on Twitter, acting like a total dick to consumers, now this by RT who in which receives money, etc from them for services rendered...
Not hard to follow the potential character assassination and where it possibly originated from. My money is the hostile company.
Gaming has it's very own political warfare propaganda folks. Follow. The. Money trail.
Now you are ironically being targeted by said review. Too much of a coincidence.
At least we know gamers aren't going to get as upset if it was some woman accused of sleeping around to increase the score of some PC indie game.
Spring-Loaded
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damn
Hot Coldman
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man I kind of want some fast food now, can anyone recommend me a good chain
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Red Rooster
The hits are timeless!
Tinfoilhatsron
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This just justifies my image of Jeff as a game reviewer. Totally fucking honest and brutal. Keep it up Jeff!
This is why I no longer follow the industry and rarey discuss games. It seems like every other person has a personal agenda and is somehow involved monetary wise. Even on neogaf there are users who depend on the success of certain companies, whether they are stock holders, streamers, youtubers, reporters or whatever.
I imagine alot of quality games get overlooked because there is no money to be made on them. What I mean is the games people choose to stream and the ones big gaming sites focus all their attention on are those that will generate them revenue, not necessarily games they want to spend time with on a personal level. As a result of this behavior I'm completely out of the loop and spend most of my time just playing games that appeal to me, often stuff nobody really talks about. Maybe why I have spent more time on Miiverse lately than anything else, a community where you find real, genuine fans of games.
Yeah, Jeff mentioned that it wasnt the first time they dealt with that, I think he specifically mentions Sony doing it over Rachet and Clank. Up until that point they had management that stood up for editorial though.
Yeah, his reviews are both great and almost completely useless for me, since I almost never have the same taste in games as him.
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