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So What's With The Hate for Infinite Warfare? [Serious]
- Thread starter DocSeuss
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Hamster Plugin
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People don't want boost jumping any more. They want back on the ground.
Modern Warfare Remastered is offering what people want. But to get Modern Warfare Remastered, you are forced to buy it in a bundle with Infinite Warfare for $80.
Asking for hate here, really.
Modern Warfare Remastered is offering what people want. But to get Modern Warfare Remastered, you are forced to buy it in a bundle with Infinite Warfare for $80.
Asking for hate here, really.
stan423321
Member
The basic problem is the brand colliding with expectations. It has been seen to a lesser level with Advanced Warfare.
The regular fanbase would want a Black Ops Forever. The other people generally don't care since it's CoD and thus it "will" be Black Ops Forever.
The regular fanbase would want a Black Ops Forever. The other people generally don't care since it's CoD and thus it "will" be Black Ops Forever.
First CoD I have been interested in since probably MW2. Never understood the outrage myself, but I do not keep up with the franchise much at all.
Then again, would be pretty bummed if the space treatment ends up feeling like a corridor shooting gallery with the ship combat being little more than smoke and mirrors. I don't expect X-Wing, but I don't want Mad Dog Mcree in space either...
Then again, would be pretty bummed if the space treatment ends up feeling like a corridor shooting gallery with the ship combat being little more than smoke and mirrors. I don't expect X-Wing, but I don't want Mad Dog Mcree in space either...
This is the first COD I am interested in playing. The campaign looks like so much fun. I thought what they showed at E3 looked great . I think this game having the COD name on it hurts it in a few ways. One being it's not giving a lot of hardcore COD crowd what they wont. Two the typical COD hater is going to hate it because its COD. It will sell like crazy either way.
I doubt they made the ship fully customizable and such and be like: "hey use it for a mission or two."
Odds are you will be able to use it a lot, more so with all the side missions.
Naughty_Doge
Member
Jon Snow knows things.
yanipheonu
Member
Seemed to show well at the Sony Press Conference.
Franchise Fatigue may just be a very real problem with that series at this point, and the repeat futuristic entries exacerbated that problem.
Could benefit from a year off (never happening with Activision though) or a return to its roots in WWII.
Franchise Fatigue may just be a very real problem with that series at this point, and the repeat futuristic entries exacerbated that problem.
Could benefit from a year off (never happening with Activision though) or a return to its roots in WWII.
The firearm was invented in the 13th century and is nearly the only projectile weapon used today. Why does anybody think we'll not be using guns 300 years in the future?
Lord Frieza
Member
Seems every year COD gets similar hate from similar groups, with everyone calling this year to be its death, and then it sells like crazy (as always) and I play the hell out of it and enjoy it. Let'em hate.
200 years is near-future? I don't think many would consider 200 years to be near lol. Maybe in like the broad scheme of the universe, sure, but for most humans perception 200 years is a very far period of time.
200 years is near-future? I don't think many would consider 200 years to be near lol. Maybe in like the broad scheme of the universe, sure, but for most humans perception 200 years is a very far period of time.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Suffered your way through Killzone 2? It's one of the best first person shooters ever made. In a thread defending Call of Duty Infinite Warfare?
Jesus.
You should feel bad.
(Disclaimer, I am buying IW and don't think it looks horrible, just had to call out this travesty of an opinion)
Jesus.
You should feel bad.
(Disclaimer, I am buying IW and don't think it looks horrible, just had to call out this travesty of an opinion)
InsaneTiger
Member
Don't all shooters always go to a "standard shooting sequence"?
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Infinite Warfare is not a near future game at all. Advanced Warfare was. Infinite Warfare takes place in a very distant future.
Messofanego
Banned
I stopped following and playing Call Of Duty since Black Ops 1, so I have no opinion really on the matter. They're ok to watch as Youtube movies when someone uploads the campaign there. I haven't seen any media for this new one. Just too many other games to follow instead.
My man, someone else who at least likes things about Darkest of Days! I mean it's in some ways total shit but I enjoyed it and can't help but admire it.
"Time to make some numerical adjustments"
I'm personally really looking forward to Infinite Warfare and think it looks like a lot of fun, really enjoyed the E3 presentation of it. Having that and COD4 Remastered in the same package should be fun.
He shouldn't feel bad because Killzone 2 controlled like utter shit. It doesn't matter what else was good about it, when the actual act of playing it is bollocks then it can hardly be one of the best first person shooters ever made. It wasn't even the best fps the month it came out. As well as that, any game with the insufferable cunt that is Rico gets automatically disqualified
Messofanego
Banned
No, this is the travesty of an opinion.
What's funny is that during the Sony conference, people were like, "hey, what's this game? CoD? No it can't be. Is it? No way. This looks pretty good. Hell it looks freaking amazing! I want to play it."
Title card: Call of Duty Infinite Warfare
"Oh. It's trash. I'm not interested anymore."
Title card: Call of Duty Infinite Warfare
"Oh. It's trash. I'm not interested anymore."
Pankratous
Member
It's the first CoD I've ever been interested in.
Rain City Gamer
Member
I am not the biggest COD fan but I loved what was shown at PS4 conference. So much so that I was surprised when it was unveiled to be COD at the end of the footage. While I will be buying BF1 and TF2 (and likely not CODIW) I don't get the hate towards it. It still looks like a solid game from what has been shown.
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haha this is exactly my reaction. Then I was like "Well now I actually care about COD for once"
EDIT
haha this is exactly my reaction. Then I was like "Well now I actually care about COD for once"
What about the legacy edition with COD4 Remastered ? Seeing many preorders for that out of curiosity ?
Dangansona
Member
I can somewhat sympathize for the Call of Duty fans who feel like after everyone begging to get away from modern military shooters IW switched, yet now future shooters are old hat too. However from my perspective CoD doesn't go much further beyond the most basic concept or setting for their games. It is kind of the epitome of dumb Blockbuster movies. So really at this point you could point a Call of Duty game in any setting but as long as the games are going for the same general vibe I just can't be interested.
The series is just far less appealing to me when Wolfenstein proved that it is still possible for single player shooter campaigns to come out and feel unique/interesting and comprise a consistent vision.
Edit: I am not completely dismissing the new game though. I thought the E3 demo was pretty neat.
The series is just far less appealing to me when Wolfenstein proved that it is still possible for single player shooter campaigns to come out and feel unique/interesting and comprise a consistent vision.
Edit: I am not completely dismissing the new game though. I thought the E3 demo was pretty neat.
Lord Frieza
Member
I'll be super surprised if Battlefield 1 outsells IW. People always seem to think BF will "finally" overtake COD, and it pretty much never does.
I'm assuming Ghosts is now the CoD version of an embarrassing high school yearbook photo.
Killzone 2 has great production value and plays like garbage. It's one of, if not the worst first person shooters ever made. I do not and cannot fathom how anyone would like that game.
And yeah, I can defend Infinite Warfare, because no one has played it, so none of us can really honestly say it's bad or isn't bad. I can ask why people think it is bad without having played it.
Mechanized
Member
People are finally sick of playing Quake 3.
Silver Arrows
Banned
Ehhhh.....I'm honestly not that interested.
And I wouldn't be surprised of those who ARE interested, that most of them are in for COD4:R.
And I wouldn't be surprised of those who ARE interested, that most of them are in for COD4:R.
curiouscharles
Member
series fatigue for me.
i don't want ANY more COD games.
i also don't want any more battlefield games.
i also REALLY don't want any more Assassin's Creed games.
i guess i'm just tired in general.
#pahplzunderstand
i don't want ANY more COD games.
i also don't want any more battlefield games.
i also REALLY don't want any more Assassin's Creed games.
i guess i'm just tired in general.
#pahplzunderstand
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Killzone 2 has great production value and plays like garbage. It's one of, if not the worst first person shooters ever made. I do not and cannot fathom how anyone would like that game.
And yeah, I can defend Infinite Warfare, because no one has played it, so none of us can really honestly say it's bad or isn't bad. I can ask why people think it is bad without having played it.
I would say its production value is its weakest part. And it's gameplay the strongest. Killzone 3 had good production values, and the gameplay suffered a bit. Which is why Killzone 2 is still better than Killzone 3.
veloxStrix
Banned
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me five times, shame on me.
Net_Wrecker
Member
CoD campaign gameplay design is beyond tired. No matter what coat of paint they slap onto it, I know it'll still end up being a very low impact, highly scripted, low intensity shooter in the vein of everything they've been making since forever. The one time they managed to capture some atmosphere and give the scenarios some weight was CoD4, and that was quickly abandoned for empty spectacle from then on. Nothing I've seen of Infinite Warfare leads me to believe they're making the CoD campaign combat loop engaging. All the space dogfights and structure revamps in the world won't fix the core issue I have with it.
MrMatt555
Member
For real. I'd rather get a new good transformers game than this shit.
I see this often but I want to ask you, can you name me any recent worthwhile near future FPS apart from:
1) Advanced Warfare
2) Black Ops 3
3) Titanfall
4) Crysis 2
5) Crysis 3
Black Ops 2 is a mix of past and near future that felt modern more than futuristic, while Ghosts was so low on tech that it might as well be modern.
I'm sorry but I don't see how near future is super saturated.
Dyson Industries
Banned
Bingo.
I understand wanting to cherry pick in order to support what you're saying, but that's ridiculous.
-It has Call of Duty in the name.
-It is published by Activision
-Bonus hate points: It is being made by the "new" Infinity Ward.
It is amusing a lot of time. Like during the PlayStation E3 presentation seeing some talking about "how awesome this space game looks"..."woah"....then, "Ugh, Call of Duty? No wonder it looks like shit".
-It is published by Activision
-Bonus hate points: It is being made by the "new" Infinity Ward.
It is amusing a lot of time. Like during the PlayStation E3 presentation seeing some talking about "how awesome this space game looks"..."woah"....then, "Ugh, Call of Duty? No wonder it looks like shit".
HanzSnubSnub
Member
My personal reasons:
- Same developer as Ghosts
- Sick of futuristic games
- MW:R paywall
- Inevitable supply drops
AHA-Lambda
Member
I can understand some frustration with fatigue and the fact that popularity breeds contempt, plus the whole MWR thing plus it's from IW.
Personally speaking though, I just felt that the reveal trailer was extremely poor. Like it looked pretty damn dull, extremely generic stuff. That said the E3 footage was actually pretty good so hopes are back up.
Personally speaking though, I just felt that the reveal trailer was extremely poor. Like it looked pretty damn dull, extremely generic stuff. That said the E3 footage was actually pretty good so hopes are back up.
I personally loved what they showed during the Sony conference. I didn't even realize that it was COD until I saw the breach command. Battlefield 1 bored me though even with the WWI setting.
I also read before that there were game designers from Naughty Dog who went to Infinity Ward so that actually makes this game more interesting for me.
I also read before that there were game designers from Naughty Dog who went to Infinity Ward so that actually makes this game more interesting for me.
Magic Mushroom
Member
I really liked the E3 demo. First Call of Duty in years I'm interested in. I love the Battlestar Galactica vibes.
Lord Frieza
Member
I really don't understand why people hate Ghosts so much. I mean, it's definitely one of the weaker entries, no doubt, but I really don't think it was even that terrible. It was, at worst, a forgettable entry.
You'll be waiting even more forever for Infinite Wafare to be $10? The hell? Most CODs stay at high price range until the next installment. Unless I'm totally misunderstanding what you're saying here.
You'll be waiting even more forever for Infinite Wafare to be $10? The hell? Most CODs stay at high price range until the next installment. Unless I'm totally misunderstanding what you're saying here.
SolidSnakex
Member
The ending pissed people off. The campaign itself was just forgettable as you said. But that ending pushed it over to people hating it.
WaterAstro
Member
People who still hate Infinite Warfare probably didn't watch the Sony Press Conference.
It had the worst trailer I have ever seen for a CoD earlier in the year, then the gameplay they shown at the Sony Press Conference changed mine and many other people's minds.
I've watched a number of reaction videos, even looked at GAFs responses in the thread, and Infinite Warfare looks amazing and fun to play. I hate CoD, and this is the first time I've been impressed in a long time.
It had the worst trailer I have ever seen for a CoD earlier in the year, then the gameplay they shown at the Sony Press Conference changed mine and many other people's minds.
I've watched a number of reaction videos, even looked at GAFs responses in the thread, and Infinite Warfare looks amazing and fun to play. I hate CoD, and this is the first time I've been impressed in a long time.