IceDoesntHelp
Banned
Two words.
Inifinity Ward.
I have not liked a single one of their CoD games.
Inifinity Ward.
I have not liked a single one of their CoD games.
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So What's With The Hate for Infinite Warfare? [Serious]
- Thread starter DocSeuss
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Which COD games have you liked?
I don't get why people hated on Infinite Warfare while praising Battlefield 1, they both looked fine (personally Infinite Warfare looked more interesting to me). I'd wager a good part of the hate is because it's Call of Duty and it's become so normal to just hate it and see it as representative of everything wrong with franchise squeezing in the industry. Even I had a moment of "Hey, this looks pretty neat, what is it? Oh, it's Call of Duty? Eeeeeehhhhhhh..." when they first showed it off.
Duxxy3
Member
I'm tired of futuristic settings. There's already so damn many futuristic shooters out already. Three of the last four COD games have been futuristic (four of the last five as of November).
COD used to have at least some down to earth feel to it. Exaggerated of course, but that was to make it fun. After MW3 the series lost any resemblance to reality (even then, that was a stretch).
Now we're flying around and shooting robots with lasers... how the fuck did the series come to this point? What does this even have in common with the earlier COD's, other than name?
COD used to have at least some down to earth feel to it. Exaggerated of course, but that was to make it fun. After MW3 the series lost any resemblance to reality (even then, that was a stretch).
Now we're flying around and shooting robots with lasers... how the fuck did the series come to this point? What does this even have in common with the earlier COD's, other than name?
Vince DiCola
Member
It's cool to hate.
Infinite Warfare looks cool but I think Cod could do different eras entirely each year, they have an opportunity no other fps franchise has imo.
Now this is an outsider's perspective as I haven't bought a Cod game since BLOPS but it's how I see it
Infinite Warfare looks cool but I think Cod could do different eras entirely each year, they have an opportunity no other fps franchise has imo.
Now this is an outsider's perspective as I haven't bought a Cod game since BLOPS but it's how I see it
JetSetRadio
Banned
It's not MW4 and they lock away the remaster mp behind some shitty futuristic abomination.
There's a stream? I'll try and find it.
https://www.facebook.com/InfinityWard/
It will be on their FB interestingly enough.
Fucks sake, hate using Facebook.
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
Or people are just getting tired of every CoD since 2013 being in the Future?
I mean Activision has 3 fucking Studios working on this franchise and they really didnt bother to change things up and going back in time.
Next years cod? AW2 with Kevin Spacey Robot? yay super exciting...
ScaryShark
Banned
Easily one of the most impressive things shown at the press conferences. I've cooled big time on COD (didn't buy BLOPS 3) but if everything they showed didn't have 'Call of Duty' on it, a lot of people who hate it, would be interested.
I'm definitely intrigued/hopeful for it.
Trogdor1123
Member
Same here, the e3 demo looked fantastic .
I'm looking forward to it because I enjoy playing new Call of Duty games, and I'm also a fan of near to far future in general, but for CoD I do think they could use a new setting because they've been here a long time now. Around CoD:World at War, I felt the same way about their WWII setting, and then MW showed up. I think we need another MW moment for the series, whatever that happens to be.
Isn't it part of what makes Battlefield I seem so appealing?
I'm still gonna get it, them, both.
Isn't it part of what makes Battlefield I seem so appealing?
I'm still gonna get it, them, both.
So they just answered a question of their live stream about how could they have gotten what the fans wanted so wrong... Honestly with a question like that and being a person who is dedicated to get into game development. Fuck fans like that. I'm sorry but It's so freaking disrespectful.
Criticism is fine but stuff like that... Just... Questions like that give me fear as a developer. It's not a hard question, it's a condensending question.
Criticism is fine but stuff like that... Just... Questions like that give me fear as a developer. It's not a hard question, it's a condensending question.
Forsaken82
Member
Im curious, are you one of those guys who's like "I'd buy CoD 4 remaster standalone, but won't buy this"
Krappadizzle
Member
I'm just bored by the series to be honest. They control well mechanically, but it's all too samey from Cod4 on and I'm just over it. I don't care that they exist though. But between CoD:X and the new Battlefield's I'll pick BF1. I love the destruction and options given in any game in the Battlefield series.
Personally, I'm not a fan of CoD campaign, so it's all about MP. I enjoy CoD MP a lot, but I'm over wall running and jetpacks. Until CoD returns to its roots, I just don't care about it any more. Then you have the whole "half of CoD4 MP behind a $80 pay wall," and my indifference turns to a little bit of anger, because I think it's a pretty shitty thing to do. I also think it lends legitimacy to the idea the CoD is getting old when Activision needs to hold CoD4 ransom for CoD IW's sake.
Duxxy3
Member
It's the second most disliked youtube video of all time. Obviously they hit a chord. It's a relevant question in that context.
Oh I'm not saying it's not relevant and I applaud them for tackling it straight on (whether it's a PR answer or not), but I still hate the fact that it's question in the first place. The fanbase who are against IW have become like insolent children.
You have to disable chat for any livestream they do because it's all just a load of shit that people spew.
blame space
Banned
man call of duty sucks now with the triple jumping and the exo suit bs.. wish they would make a good one like MW series again.
probably gonna get BF this year..
probably gonna get BF this year..
Krappadizzle
Member
I blame space. No one wanted that.
Yup no one wanted it. Literally no one. Not a single person. Yup. No one.
Edit: Didn't notice the joke.
Dr_Boris_Goltz
Banned
I play Black Ops 3 nearly every night with a group and they are overwhelmingly in favor of boots on the ground gameplay.
Krappadizzle
Member
Why don't you look at the person's name I quoted before you get all in a hissy fit.
Magic Mushroom
Member
family_guy
Member
This and Titanfall 2 look fun to me. Battlefield 1 looks terribly boring. Don't care how good it is graphically.
Yeah not going to lie... Did not notice that at all.
tearsintherain
Member
I've sunk a ton of hours into black ops 3, the first COD I've really played a lot of, and own it + season pass digitally on PS4. Love the game, already pre ordered digitally IW + SP for $99, mostly cuz it includes a lot of content (including modern warfare remastered) and I bought it during that window when Sony was giving $15 back if you spent $100 on the store.
I think the biggest issue I had was that the trailer looked great, but the music was just... AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL. Putting in a slow song, that I think was somehow supposed to be a tribute to David Bowie (who had just died) but a cover version felt very, very poor taste. And then a few days later the Battlefield 1 trailer comes out with that pumping White Stripes song and it made the song choice for the IW trailer even worse. A lot of people were also pissed at the requiring bundling to get Modern Warfare so obviously that did them zero favors.
That said everything about IW looks like it'll be fun, I have no idea if the campaign will be memorable or forgettable but I am pretty sure there is going to be an insane amount of content I get for $100 and its a game I could play for hours a week for months and enjoy it with friends. Thats good enough for me. I'm also going to be buying Titanfall 1 and Battlefield 1 so its a totally packed holiday season.
I think the biggest issue I had was that the trailer looked great, but the music was just... AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL. Putting in a slow song, that I think was somehow supposed to be a tribute to David Bowie (who had just died) but a cover version felt very, very poor taste. And then a few days later the Battlefield 1 trailer comes out with that pumping White Stripes song and it made the song choice for the IW trailer even worse. A lot of people were also pissed at the requiring bundling to get Modern Warfare so obviously that did them zero favors.
That said everything about IW looks like it'll be fun, I have no idea if the campaign will be memorable or forgettable but I am pretty sure there is going to be an insane amount of content I get for $100 and its a game I could play for hours a week for months and enjoy it with friends. Thats good enough for me. I'm also going to be buying Titanfall 1 and Battlefield 1 so its a totally packed holiday season.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
It shocked me when I saw the negative reaction.
It's the most interesting COD since 4, and was pretty damn impressive in it's own right. It looks undeniably good.
It's the most interesting COD since 4, and was pretty damn impressive in it's own right. It looks undeniably good.
It's cool to hate things that are popular, but I also think there is an elitist attitude, where a lot of the "hardcore" gaming crowd, just doesn't like the fact that a game they see as shallow can continue to be so popular year after year...
It's also cool to say that it's a copy/paste job every year and never does anything different...even though that's not even close to true
It's also cool to say that it's a copy/paste job every year and never does anything different...even though that's not even close to true
NowhereFaded
Member
wait... Dogfighting??! This changing everything. That sounds pretty rad.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
Fans want something just like the old games, but also completely brand new and different.
^^^ here is another piece, and I'm not trying to single you out, you just conveniently posted this...
I think a lot of people buy the "copy/paste" argument without really looking into the game, they just dismiss it off hand as a cookie cutter FPS with a short campaign and jet packs in multiplayer...
I feel like most of the people who've taken a more... pro-active stance against the game don't even know what's in it. They decided it was terrible and that it's a copy and paste... (The irony being that they all want MWR which is literally a copy and paste, go figure.)
I wonder how many of them know that...
- The Jackal is upgradable
- The Jackal is not on rails
- Your ship acts as a hub
- There is side missions and the e3 mission was one.
- There's loot in the SP side, which ties into the fact that your scavenging for resources.
TheSadRanger
Banned
Please lead me to the super saturated space dogfight games please.
Seriously, I want to play them. Point them out and I'll go buy them right now.
Interesting......
Kerotan Frog
Member
I haven't bought a Call or Duty game since MW2 in 2009, but I've preordered this. It looks incredible and it includes MW1 Remaster (Best CoD besides 2) in the $80 version. With Amazon prime, getting the $80 version costs the same as buying the reg version in store ($63). Win win. Haven't been excited for Call of Duty in a LONG time.
My issue is that have no faith in the multiplayer component. Ghosts' single player was Ok for the most part, not the worst one I had played (that goes to BO3 now), but the multiplayer was just abysmal. Super low TTK, maps that were large only for the sake of being large, every room had 7 ways in/out, and the netcode was rough. It's the only time I have ever gone back to playing the previous games after the next one released, or even regretted getting the season pass.
Storm Raider
Banned
Your opinion is moot
Hades Hotgun
Banned
I get people generally being down on IW since losing so many folks and the first trailer was certainly unimpressive.
The thing is though, when the Sony conference trailer came out people could either reassess their opinion based on new evidence or they could refuse to examine the possibility that their initial impression was wrong.
Given statements like 'near future' it seems some people chose the latter.
The thing is though, when the Sony conference trailer came out people could either reassess their opinion based on new evidence or they could refuse to examine the possibility that their initial impression was wrong.
Given statements like 'near future' it seems some people chose the latter.
I honestly thought it was a new IP tbh!
GamingOblivion
Banned
there was hate? as I understood it the game has really turned around public opinion since E3
Future PhaZe
Member
im pretty hyped personally
but then again i have no CoD fatigue..haven't played one consistently since black ops 2
but then again i have no CoD fatigue..haven't played one consistently since black ops 2
COD is just wearing on people. It's been the most popular game of the year, pretty much since Modern Warfare was released, and of course people hate what's popular. Being the behemoth that it is, I watch trailers and follow the game not because I may buy it, but just to see where they are taking the series and I'm mostly flabbergasted that it is so popular.