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[Huge Succeeded]

For me, Call of Duty just got stale, and Infinite Warfare doesn't seem to be doing enough to draw me back in.

Before Infinite Warfare was revealed, if you'd asked me what I thought of Call of Duty, I'd tell you it was the most stagnant fucking triple A series in gaming. Stale gameplay, stale multiplayer mechanics, and the big thing for me - stale fucking graphics.

I know graphics shouldn't be 'the big thing'. but for fucks sake, every other franchise on Call of Duty's level just plain look way better. Lazy is never the right word to use for these sorts of things but right now I can't think of any other way to describe their fucking insane reluctance to move beyond the Infinity Ward engine, which is basically a fork of the engine that powered Quake 3 Arena.

Quake 3 Arena. Y'know... that Quake game from 17 years ago

Call of Duty is pathetically ugly next to any other major shooter franchise. Homefront: The Revolution has better graphics than any given Call of Duty game, art style nonwithstanding.

Infinity Warfare looks pretty sweet visually, and I like how sci-fi the shit is getting. but if the multiplayer is anything like the last few installments then I guess I'm just going to have to concede that this series is not for me. Battlefield is doing cool shit with vehicles and map design and sound design with every installment (at 60fps 8'O) while Call of Duty continues to feel like a rejiggered re-skin of Modern Warfare year after year after year. I bought Black Ops 3, the first CoD I bought since Black Ops, thinking its arcadey stylings would shake things up for me, but nope, still can't stand it.

Call of Duty ain't even bad. Shit's just stale.

 

[Big_Al]

The ending pissed people off. The campaign itself was just forgettable as you said. But that ending pushed it over to people hating it.

I honestly thought the ending to Ghosts was one of the best things ever, I don't think I stopped laughing for a good 10mins after the game ended. Pure horror movie/Michael Myers territory. It took an already ridiculous game and pushed it right over the edge, I couldn't help but admire it for that.

 

[JigglesBunny]

It really boils down to Infinity Ward releasing two titles in a row I disliked and the game looking boring.

Plus, the game comes out in 4 months and we've only seen one trailer and footage of one side mission. They aren't even revealing Multiplayer until 2 months from launch. Doesn't exactly scream confidence.

 

[KingdomHeartsFan]

Everything you praise the game for is single player, most the people complaining are buying the game for multiplayer first and foremost. With all 3 of Activision's cod teams making future shooters its no wonder why they are tired of this shit and this is the third cod in a row to have that jetpack shit in multiplayer when people have been asking for boots on the ground.

 

[RedSwirl]

I'll never understand the disconnect between me and everyone else on COD.

My last COD was Modern Warfare 3 which I enjoyed immensely. I thought the campaign had great controls and great level design. They always seemed to have something new going on from moment to moment. Just great gameplay variety all-in-all. I never really enjoyed the Treyarch games all that much. The levels in Black Ops 1 just felt boring in my experience. It's why I never tried out Black Ops 2. Treyarch has its heart in the right place and superficially includes the features people want, but I felt like its actual game design chops didn't stand up to Infinity Ward, even post-MW2 Infinity Ward.

I'm gonna try out Ghosts and Advanced Warfare sometime.

 

[FeD.nL]

I had no interest in it before the Sony presser but after the conference it became a must-buy for me. Especially with the extra information;

No loading screens; seemless from (side)mission to (side)mission.

Gives me Wing Commander vibes

Love the designs of the ships/cruisers

It just feels incredibly fresh for a CoD campaign. Hopefully the MP has a big ship vs ship/titan-esque mode.

 

[Slermy]

I don't get it either. It looks pretty solid and I haven't been able to really get in to a CoD since MW2.

I'm in the same boat. I tried BlOps II I think, but barely played it.

I'm okay if other people don't want this title, the less T-bagging 10 year-olds the better.

 

[KyleP29]

For me it has been the fact that call of duty has seemingly been chasing the Titanfall type of gameplay (Larger maps, faster play, more mobility options) and have quite frankly just felt like a bad knock off.

Their forward push to a more sci-fi setting hasnt moved them to figuring any of this out. The mobility in Advanced Warfare and BOP 3 greatly pale in comparison to the fluidity of Titanfall. Not only that, but the map design for these games don't even seem to focus and take advantage of these new mobility options and make it all feel very gimmicky,

So for me when you play year after year a poor execution of the same game and see other games putting it together better it just comes back to wanting call of duty to return to focus on what they can do best without feeling the need to chase the trend. To me a more grounded setting in WW2 through near future BOPS2 is where their strengths lie.

 

[Toa TAK]

It looks boring as fuck. Near-future is super saturated.

This is pretty much it for me. I've never been a fan of future/near future to begin with. BOIII's campaign was the worst and I'm put off by the jumping we've had since AW. I give BOII a pass on it's future theme because at least the campaign still had a 60/40 ratio of future/past. Not to mention, now that DICE is delivering my dream of a WWI game, my interest in this particular COD had plummeted.

And I guess I'm the odd man out here, even as a COD fan. I love getting COD campaigns, but I'm seriously puzzled by people's interest at the Sony Press Conference. I wasn't at all impressed or wowed by it. The grappling, starship, etc. I guess a lot of the buzz comes from people who hadn't played it since MW2, which would explain a lot. Plus, these guys still gave us MW3 and Ghosts, so I'm not too convinced, and seeing as how Treyarch shat the bed with BOIII's campaign I'm a lot more skeptical.

Still, I'll give it a fair shake. I'm hoping it'll be good but I've been wrong before.

 

[DocSeuss]

Bingo.


I understand wanting to cherry pick in order to support what you're saying, but that's ridiculous.

7 games in 7 years is cherrypicking?

Lazy is never the right word to use for these sorts of things but right now I can't think of any other way to describe their fucking insane reluctance to move beyond the Infinity Ward engine, which is basically a fork of the engine that powered Quake 3 Arena.

Quake 3 Arena. Y'know... that Quake game from 17 years ago

Call of Duty is pathetically ugly next to any other major shooter franchise. Homefront: The Revolution has better graphics than any given Call of Duty game, art style nonwithstanding..

Guess what.

GUESS WHAT.

Half-Life is based on the Quake 1 engine.

And Half-Life 2.

And every Source game right up to Titanfall.

Most games have code that's ancient. It's not like it's running on that engine. This is as reasonable a post as one saying that humans are a kind of banana due to genetic similarities. It's nonsense.

 

[Chille]

To me it looks more interesting then battlefield 1

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Much like Assassin's Creed, the core gameplay has overstayed its welcome. While I'm slightly curious about this year's entry, I have simply played too many CoD campaigns. And I don't play the MP for more than a few hours, just not my thing.

I've played

• CoD
• CoD2
• CoD4
• CoD:WaW
• CoD:MW2
• CoD:MW3
• CoD:BO2
• CoD:AW
• CoD:BO3

Even going back and playing CoD2 this year, it's taken me a lot of conscious effort to even bother finishing it, despite loving the shit out of that game in 2005-6. I really disliked BO3 as well.

 

[DocSeuss]

Much like Assassin's Creed, the core gameplay has overstayed its welcome. While I'm slightly curious about this year's entry, I have simply played too many CoD campaigns. And I don't play the MP for more than a few hours, just not my thing.

I've played

• CoD
• CoD2
• CoD4
• CoD:WaW
• CoD:MW2
• CoD:MW3
• CoD:BO2
• CoD:AW
• CoD:BO3

Even going back and playing CoD2 this year, it's taken me a lot of conscious effort to even bother finishing it, despite loving the shit out of that game in 2005-6. I really disliked BO3 as well.

Black Ops 3 isn't an overexposure issue, it's just a bad game, like all the Treyarch campaigns.

 

[Fury451]

Black Ops 3 isn't an overexposure issue, it's just a bad game, like all the Treyarch campaigns.

WHAT

Personal opinions and all, but aside from MW, all my favorite CoD campaigns are Treyarch; especially World at War, but BO and BO2 as well are excellent.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Black Ops 3 isn't an overexposure issue, it's just a bad game, like all the Treyarch campaigns.

It's both. Like I said, even the old ones I loved back in the day aren't doing anything for me, even with nostalgia goggles. They're not mechanically bad I've just had enough.

 

[DocSeuss]

WHAT

Personal opinions and all, but aside from MW, all my favorite CoD campaigns are Treyarch; especially World at War, but BO and BO2 as well are excellent.

I think Noah Caldwell-Gervais made a great video on the Call of Duty series that talked about exactly why this is. It comes down to bad storytelling, bad level design, and a predilection for torture porn.

 

[Big_Al]

I think Noah Caldwell-Gervais made a great video on the Call of Duty series that talked about exactly why this is. It comes down to bad storytelling, bad level design, and a predilection for torture porn.

Can't really say I really agree with Noah on this (though I do enjoy his videos). Well mostly with World At War and Black Ops. Black Ops especially is my favourite COD game after COD2 and COD4.

 

[zsynqx]

Cod fans hate exo type movement and want everything to be boots on the ground. Plus that first trailer was terrible.

Everything you praise the game for is single player, most the people complaining are buying the game for multiplayer first and foremost. With all 3 of Activision's cod teams making future shooters its no wonder why they are tired of this shit and this is the third cod in a row to have that jetpack shit in multiplayer when people have been asking for boots on the ground.

This. Most of the hate is coming from the MP community.

 

[CryptiK]

WHAT

Personal opinions and all, but aside from MW, all my favorite CoD campaigns are Treyarch; especially World at War, but BO and BO2 as well are excellent.

Thats because at the point of BO and BO2 Infinity Ward and Treyarch were the ONLY ones making mainline COD... Treyarch used to be so dreaded when it came to releasing their games. Complete clunky garbage. Nothing has changed of course the only thing that did is IW became a lot more shit.

CODIW is hated because fans have been asking for the games to go back to WW2 for a long time. They have done futuristic twice already and are on their third try.

 

[Azure Phoenix]

As someone who hates the series, but has to push pre-orders of them, the one common complaint I hear from customers is that they don't like how the series keeps getting more futuristic and that they're only interested in MW Remastered. In fact, we've had a load of people asking if they can sell IW back immediately on day one after getting their MWR code out of the box. Battlefield 1 meanwhile has actually be getting more pre-orders and interest than CoD for the first time because people want the WW1 setting. I heard similar complaints over the last few years with AW and BO3 as well, but this year really has been the tipping point.

 

[Shambalakan]

It's the first CoD I want to play after Black Ops II.

 

[MMaRsu]

80 paywall for a game i actually want

 

[eXistor]

What about the legacy edition with COD4 Remastered ? Seeing many preorders for that out of curiosity ?

Not sure how many we have now, but honestly it's not looking good so far. Most people literally just pre-order the $90 game just to play MW Remastered, they almost always make a point to mention this to me, which is funny.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

I think it's a combination of a few things which have resulted in this bandwagon that people have been more than happy to jump on:

- COD is the market leader therefore it's cool to hate it
- Battlefield has better visuals therefore COD's graphics are shit
- There has been like 5 major space sci-fi shooters in the last few years therefore the sub-genre is saturated
- People wanted COD to do something new, which actually meant they wanted COD to go back to WWII
- MW Remastered is being held hostage behind it, and I think a lot of people are using this to justify their (already established) hate against it
- It didn't have a very good first trailer while Battlefield 1 had a much better first showing (despite IW showing gameplay footage and BF1 showing little to no actual gameplay, as I recall)

 

[Fahzgoolin]

I haven't touched a COD since MW2. Bedn playing tons of Countet Strike since.

I preordered IW+MW remastered on Amazon. The hype made me get BLOPS 3 on discount and I'm loving that too in its own way.

 

[kyser73]

I only play CoDs for the campaigns as they're games I can play on harder levels and still finish. I'm getting IW for MWR but the Sony presser certainly piqued my interest for some OTT space combat.

 

[kraspkibble]

apparently people are tired of modern/futuristic settings in FPS games and it didn't help that the only way you can get the remastered MW is by buying Infinite Warfare's Legacy edition which cost about £70-80. they'll probably release it as a standalone purchase at some point but if you want to play it when it comes out you need to buy a game that you have no interest in.

personally i hate WW1/2 settings and prefer modern/futuristic games so i am interested in infinite warfare and want the MW remaster so it's a win win for me. will be skipping Battlefield 1 and buying my first COD game in 6 years.

 

[MMaRsu]

Isnt the space combat on rails?

 

[Hasney]

Dunno, first CoD to interest me in a long long time.

Same, I don't even like Modern Warfare, but this looks way more interesting than anything Activision has put out.

 

[SliceSabre]

I tend to believe those people claiming it is because it is futuristic are completely full of shit because the last two games have been futuristic and there was very little whining about that. I mean in BO3 you were playing as a robot or cybernetically enhanced people for God's sake with all those super futuristic weapons to boot.

As someone who has played all the CoD, save for Ghosts, I fee like this is a refreshing take for CoD and look forward to playing it.

I think the vast majority of the hate is at CoD4: RE being only available via bundle with IW though I expect people or smart enough to figure it'll be sold separately at some point in the near future after release.

 

[BokehKing]

Because the future setting
Because it's been the same game for the last 10 years
Because the perfect game (COD4) in the series with my favorite selection of guns is being held hostage by the purchase of this game.

People defended the last future game because it was a treyarch led game. People tend to overlook things when treyarch is involved, the top COD studio.

IW has been making stinkers since MW3 (imo I hated the direction MW2 took as well, going from 3 killstreaks to 20 was a jump the shark moment for me)

 

[Chittagong]

Because is kidnapping mw remastered.

This is the main reason really.

Second being many people, including myself, dislike the futuristic direction with added gameplay gimmicks and verticality. We already have Halo, Titanfall and many others, no need for CoD or BF go there. DICE got it.

 

[SliceSabre]

I think it's a combination of a few things which have resulted in this bandwagon that people have been more than happy to jump on:

- COD is the market leader therefore it's cool to hate it
- Battlefield has better visuals therefore COD's graphics are shit
- There has been like 5 major space sci-fi shooters in the last few years therefore the sub-genre is saturated
- People wanted COD to do something new, which actually meant they wanted COD to go back to WWII
- MW Remastered is being held hostage behind it, and I think a lot of people are using this to justify their (already established) hate against it
- It didn't have a very good first trailer while Battlefield 1 had a much better first showing (despite IW showing gameplay footage and BF1 showing little to no actual gameplay, as I recall)

BF1 did have gameplay with all those stars playing, but the reaction I got from a lot of people was despite the WW1 setting it didn't seem all that different than any other of the recent BF game. Reskin was the word used a lot.

 

[Donos]

Please lead me to the super saturated space dogfight games please.

Seriously, I want to play them. Point them out and I'll go buy them right now.

I keep posting this like a broken record here but when i see these gifs...
Sony plz, new AAA Colony Wars NOW. Or another 3rd party dev doing another Space Flight game. Don't know when Elite Dangerous is coming to PS4.

Always like to play CoD/MoH/BF campaigns over the weekend. Perfect rentals.
But using MW as bait for the main game is weak. Add future setting and people like to comlain.

 

[El-Suave]

I think it's the usual amount of hate any CoD will generate plus there may be a big part of the target demographic that genuinely doesn't like Sci Fi too much.

 

[Daffy Duck]

As a mainly MP kind of guy, for me it's the way the series has been turned into a nickle and dime machine with RNG loot crates and weapons behind those RNG crates.

I cannot get behind a game like that anymore as it frankly pisses me off, it started with Advanced Warfare and then got scaled back (OP weapon variants gone in Black Ops 3) but they have slowly introduced weapons into the mix again (Lol Marshall 16) when the balance was OK for me with cosmetic things but it's changed massively when weapons were added as the business was supposedly nosediving, they add weapons and it picks up again.

This surely means they will be in Infinite Warfare MP, and for me, I am not interested in it, so ergo I am not interested in the game.

In short I am pissed I buy the game + season pass (£75) and then I have these RNG drops for other stuff, we don't get thrown a bone of a free weapon in each map pack or anything, yes the contract have improved things slightly with cryptokeys, but it's still shit and I don't like it.

The only glimmer for me is MW:R.

 

[TGO]

I think the space combat looks amazing, looks more like Starwars than battlefronts slow pace excuse.
Makes me want a proper independence day game lol

 

[120v]

i think Activision (or more accurately, IW?) just misjudged the audiences "tolerance" for another sci-fi. They figured the last two games were a hit so why not go balls-to-the-wall with a straight up space opera but it was just one too many, and being juxtaposed to a WWI game just made it seem more rote. and uh yeah the whole paywall thing

end of the day though let's get real, it's CoD. everybody's going to buy it

 

[Yautja_Warrior]

People just seem to hate on COD because it's so popular more than anything else, the games are not bad games but franchise fatigue can set in if you play every game, year after year.

COD got a little boring for me after playing every single game but when Ghosts came out and didn't review as well, I skipped it and went back to it when Advanced Warfare came out and it made it feel fresh again, amazing what a year off can do.

I like the space theme for this years game, it's something a bit different at least and it's not just tried to copy Battlefield and go back in time again.

Should be a great year for shooters, with Battlefield looking awesome in WW1 and COD bringing modern and future warfare to the table too, bit of something for everyone.

 

[Wil348]

I became bored of the series and decided to give it a last chance with Black Ops 3. I found it to just not be fun, while there was new stuff like exo the core gameplay was the same tired old formula and IMO they butchered Zombies (my favourite part about the past Treyarch games) with Shadows of Evil. I had to reinstall it recently to play it with my cousin and most of the time I just found myself wanting to go play something else. I just don't want to fall into the same trap with Infinite Warfare, especially when there are games which I actually want coming out around the same time.

 

[kromeo]

It's the 10th? release in a generation and a half, of course some people are going to hate on it, that's just how the interent works. Maybe this one will be different but even BO3 and AW with the future settings just felt like the same old game to me

The only thing I'm bitter about is the fact I keep making the mistake of buying them every year and getting bored after a few hours

 

[Triggerhappytel]

BF1 did have gameplay with all those stars playing, but the reaction I got from a lot of people was despite the WW1 setting it didn't seem all that different than any other of the recent BF game. Reskin was the word used a lot.

I was talking about the reveal trailers for both games, which was where the hate train for Infinite Warfare started and the unusual amount of positivity for BF1 began:

IW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeF3UTkCoxY

BF1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7nRTF2SowQ

 

[Kalentan]

Isnt the space combat on rails?

No.

 

[CitizenCope]

This is my first comment on the game as I try not to just jump in a thread for a game I don't have or will not play but hey you asked. The future is old! It doesn't seem fresh at all to me. The last few Call of Duty's could all be the same game imo.
Just blah. There will be a lot of screaming and yelling to "Go Go Go!" but now with a space helmet on.

 

[Glowsquid]

I'll play any and every shooter there is, even when it's bad.

Hmmm, considering your excitement over infinite warfare's seamless space combat to FPS transition, I wonder if you've played Mace Griffin Bounty Hunter?

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

In comparison to the countless World War 2 / modern war games, futuristic shooters haven't been able to hold people for some reason.

 

[RespectThySole]

Suffered your way through Killzone 2? It's one of the best first person shooters ever made. In a thread defending Call of Duty Infinite Warfare?


Jesus.

You should feel bad.


(Disclaimer, I am buying IW and don't think it looks horrible, just had to call out this travesty of an opinion)

Nah the OP is right. Killzone 2 is utter trash.

On topic, it might be dumb, but I just can't get excited about CoD anymore at this point. Been burned too many times. The E3 showing was good, but I'll wait for GAF impressions. Haven't really loved a CoD since 4/WaW.

 

[KillGore]

The video they showed at E3 sealed the deal for me. Havent played a COD since MW2. A lot of peopleare hating on it because battlefield releases this year too. It's fun to pit two similar series together (even though they are very different beasts right now)

 

[Keasar]

I love future or sci-fi settings.

Sci-fi is cool as shit. It gives you the most options to go nuts with weapon design and come up with some cool and innovative concepts. You can write up any story you like. Have more diversity in enemies (ROBOTS!) and vehicles.

You just have to make a good game with the setting, Black Ops 3 was absolute scheit which is not surprising cause honestly, Treyarch have made the majority of the bad campaigns in the series history. Advanced Warfare was the first light of some seriously good stuff in CoD history since MW2 (which was at best alright) and it delivered. I liked the gadgets, I liked the weapon design, I liked the story, I liked the acting of the characters.

No idea really why people hate on the future setting, they gave the modern setting like 8-10 years or something to blorb up the market and after maybe at the most 2 years people go "FUTURE IS OLD!"

In the end, I am interested in Infinity Warfare. The setting is cool, the mix of space and ground combat looks cool. My doubt is on how Infinity Ward handles the campaign story cause I am not playing the multiplayer again and I think Sledgehammer are the new proper Call of Duty developers after a stellar introduction with Advanced Warfare.

 

[Triteon]

Personally I just don't like space stuff that much.

I was also kinda hoping it was time to go back to WWII.