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Sony Controller to Be Named "Move." Bye bye Gem? truly outrageous
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Sony has been spamming on Twitter today about the live conference. Sixth time or so now. They don't want us to miss this.
http://bit.ly/9B45BlCruzader said:
LabouredSubterfuge
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TTP said:
Fift- ahuh fuck it!!
Should be interesting. Sort of.
Benjamin1981
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Sony better deliver. Gamefront.de is reporting that maybe Motorstorm 3 and Starhawk will be shown.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Howza! Home right on time! 
What the Wii Remote was first "built as" is a pointless argument. The device clearly succeeded in the market due to its unique form factor (for a modern game controller) and clever use of acceleration data in Wii Sports. I seriously find it hard to believe that it was not built with motion tracking in mind.gofreak said:
Also, even the standard Wii Remote is in fact superior to the SIXAXIS as a motion capture device, since it can track up to four separate IR sources which enough for inferring both absolute position and orientation. Take a look at this video (more information here.)
As I see it, the MotionPlus is a derivative work of the standard Wii Remote, and the Sony motion controller is a derivative work of the Wii Remote in combination with MotionPlus. The new thing the Sony motion controller brings to the table is the light emitter and the camera. In combination, these additions allow for absolute position tracking even under difficult lighting conditions.gofreak said:
This is fairly trivial stuff, and actually you can do exactly the same type of tracking if you just add a light to the Wii Remote + MotionPlus and use a high-speed webcam. Here are some videos as proof:
Bicycle light + colored ball + Wii Motion plus = Ps3 motion controller for windows
PSWii Software Demo
Personally I think it's very exciting that we're now starting to see derivative works in this direction, but it's also important to recognize why this is happening now (and not in five years) and give credit where credit is due. Looking forward to the Sony conference.
volmer said:
With the current sensor bar it is not. You have total ambiguity on at least one axis wrt differentiating between rotation and translation, hence you can't determine 'absolute' xy or rotation from the cam and sensor bar. (You can - and it does - calculate orientation on one axis to fill in for a gap in accelerometer coverage, but that's it) That distinction is irrelevant for pointing, but is very relevant for motion tracking. If it could do that, M+ would be entirely unnecessary. I think it is very fair to say that with the original wiimote, Nintendo was very focussed on pointing. The motion tracking on the thing is pretty poor, hence why M+ was released.
Also, what you link to is exactly the project I referenced earlier, where he rearranged the IR blobs into a pattern from which orientation and position could be unambiguously determined, how he achieved 6DOF without a gyro. With Nintendo's bar, there's no way to judge orientation based on distance between blobs when changing pitch, but there is if you have a 2D array of leds instead of just 1 line of them.
And I cast absolutely no aspersions about its success or whatever. And, yes, what it was designed as initially is pointless in that regard. But it's less pointless in the argument about PSGame's assertion re. the Sony controller being a 'jack of all trades, master of none' which is what I was addressing.
(And yes, the ball stuff etc. is very simple, but it makes a big difference to the robustness of the motion track.)
crazygambit
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Who's the guy talking right now? And I thought it was 45 min from now.
Edit: Playstation MOVE. Liked Arc better
Edit: Playstation MOVE. Liked Arc better
Dr Frasier Crane
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Nunchuk? Did I just see a Nunchuk...
Hell yes! I saw a Survival Horror game in there!
2 important questions I have are:
-Will it work in darkness? I can play games in the dark, but I'm assuming the PS Eye, as a camera, likes light? Is that what the ball is for? So it'll work in the dark?
-Will I be able to adjust sensitivity? If I've had a long day and don't really want to jump around to play gladiator, can I adjust my sensitivity so that just a mere twitch of my wrist will swing the entire hammer, etc.?
2 important questions I have are:
-Will it work in darkness? I can play games in the dark, but I'm assuming the PS Eye, as a camera, likes light? Is that what the ball is for? So it'll work in the dark?
-Will I be able to adjust sensitivity? If I've had a long day and don't really want to jump around to play gladiator, can I adjust my sensitivity so that just a mere twitch of my wrist will swing the entire hammer, etc.?
velvet_nitemare
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I'll say it again, Ping Pong 3D game plz!