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Soul Calibur 5 Announced - 2012 - [Up 7: Make A New E3 Thread Please]
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NeonZ
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Kimosabae said:
Juggles? I hope they won't do that and I don't see how it could work well for people with slower weapons.
There's also the chance of that just meaning a smaller recovery time after attacks, which they also mentioned there separately. It wouldn't really make any significant combos "easier", but players would be able to get one extra hit or so.
Net_Wrecker
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I think my favorite part of Soul Calibur releases is the character art.
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hikarutilmitt
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Skilletor said:
This would be outstanding since, as much as I do enjoy SC, I've always preferred the way SE/SB played.
Jay Shadow
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So the countdown was to a website prompting people to join a Facebook page before they show anything. I bet one of the new characters is named Ovaltine.
hikarutilmitt said:
Agreed, except for Weapon Breaking, the overly-exaggerated jumps and, of course, no 8WR.
But there's nothing I could take away from SE having some of the best music in the series. Somewhere between SE and SC is where I would love to see the music direction go once again.
This sounds awesome, but I'm really, really hoping they include Cassandra. Not just a new generation character with her moveset, but her. Her attitude and appearance are big parts in the total package (which includes moveset and play-style) that makes her my favorite fighting game character.
sleepykyo said:
Actually, I should have just said MK9. Even though I'm not as much of a fan of its gameplay mechanics as the Capcom games, out of those three, its the game with a thriving competitive community whose design actually embraces the competitive mindset the most. With less focus on comeback mechanics and putting reigns on creativity than MvC3 and SF4, the outcome of matches seem to have more integrity. However, NR's implementation of those mechanics are much more subtle, so other developers may not pick up on what makes them so much better than X-Factor or Ultras.
Also, it's focus on singleplayer should set a new standard regarding what to expect from every fighter from here on out. Its quantity doesn't need to be matched nearly as much as quality of in effort.
I hardly liked SC4 at all. While the gameplay is relatively solid compared to 3 (sans Hilde), the game is boring as fuck. No Soul Charge? Really? No frames for offense/mixups on block - though you mentioned they may be looking to address this, slow speed, shitty step, no creativity in terms of juggles, ugh. I could go on. I fall asleep just looking at that game.
Yeah, I'd definitely put MvC (SF4)and MK9 above SC4. While X-factor may make Marvel a shitty competitive game - at least the game is fun as hell. That's what matters.
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TreIII said:
It's odd because I don't really care for 8WR in any of the 3D fighters that I play. I think a good evasion mechanic like in VF or a better version of Tekken's would work better, IMO.
Also, weapon breaking, so long as they did it in a logical sense instead of just an arbitrary meter that goes boom when you guard/Soul Crush too much would be fine.
There were a LOT of things changed from SE to SC that contribute to my liking SC as a game, but still preferring the way SE plays. Some of them were the single player (the way EMM worked was outstanding in SE) others were just stylistic changes.
Oh oh, maybe we can get another Khan Super Sessions soundtrack?
Sir Garbageman
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Can't wait to see the first gameplay trailer, I loved SC4.
Green Scar said:
Ehhh... Soul Calibur actually takes place about a century after Ezio's time. They'd still have to pull some kind of bullshit.
Honestly I don't have an issue with guest characters because they get sales, and I can just ignore them. If we're gonna go down this route though, I've never seen any reason why Final Fantasy characters couldn't show up, like Cloud or Lightning for the PS3 version. I think it'd be a bit much to expect characters from competing Non-Namco fighters though.
Kimosabae said:
MK9 has a thriving competitive community? I'd wait until a month after Evo on that one. There has a been a lot of hype but that has been mostly been generated by the Capcom crowd propping it up and the payouts coming from NRS.
I agree that if SC5 really wants to incorporate comeback mechanics that MK9 has the best out of the 3. SF4 never really needed an ultra for comebacks when it already had a super meter bar.
But SC already has two solid (and arguably the best) comeback mechanics in the form of ring outs and critical finishes. One relies on properly exploiting positioning (okay not so much with Hilde and her half screen carry) and the other careful consistent offense. Deliberate planned out scenarios instead of a single reversal move with invincibility frames/hyper armor.
Acquiescence
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SAB CA said:
He isn't Siegfried's son. Siegfried and Sophitia have never been romantically linked in the franchise. It's Ivy that seems to be his canonical love interest; re-inforced by all the dreaded fan-fiction that's out there.
hikarutilmitt said:
See, I love 8WR in the original SC. SC2 made things perhaps "too good", and everything else afterward was perhaps too stilted. But in the original game, it was practically perfect. So I could definitely stand to see something closer to what the original game had (c'mon Odashima, you know what's best!).
Any way, the reason I hated weapon breaking back then is for the same reason I hated soul crushing in SC4. It did more to punish good defense than anything else. And in this day and age, if they put something like that in there, they would like throw in some lame come back mechanic to try and "balance" it out. No thank you. Ring outs are the ONLY "equalizer" that this series has ever needed.
But yeah, EMM was something awesome. Hope they DO bring that much back from SE.
sleepykyo said:
I never knew Tom Brady, Perfect Legend and Krazie Bone were considered part of the Capcom crowd? You have to understand, there's a lot of known SF heads that played MK games prior to SF. LI Joe and Chris G come to mind. MK had an established competitive community many years ago, it was just relatively niche.
But you're right, it's too early to say anything for certain, but as long as interest in the game remains positive, I see no reason to be cynical about the game's competitive prospects, unless you're a hater.
I also hated Critical Finishers. Not the concept itself, as much as the execution. I hate any mechanic that wrestles control from the player: which means I hate cutscenes in fighting games. If they were tweaked to be more dynamic and less tacky in presentation (no silly close up and darkening of the background with FATALITY style presentation) I could get behind it.
I'd prefer it just not be there though
Acquiescence
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Dead Man said:
Ah of course, my bad.
twinturbo2
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Guys, Sophie has a daughter, too. Will she be in the game?
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twinturbo2 said:
Glancing at the wiki for both kids, I'd say almost certainly.
twinturbo2
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I hope so, that would be at least one hot piece of ass, if her mom is any indication.Nils said:
Will wait and see how Amy and Talim grow up, too.
sixteen-bit
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Maybe she'll be a clone of her mom for fans?twinturbo2 said:
Skilletor said:
I loved SC4, but I preferred the stepping speed in SC2. The only way to replicate that in SC4 is to get the "Side Step Up" attribute, but no one really bothers with special versus.
I'm hoping they dump armor breaks (don't mind Soul Crushes and Critical Finishes though...I like mechanics that promote offensive play).
twinturbo2
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I think I know what you're talking about.LiK said:She also has one of the best grab moves in the game.
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