Meus Renaissance
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Wait, people are glad Batiatus is dead?
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Spartacus: Vengeance |OT| - The gods are ready to spread the cheeks
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Admiral Bone to Pick
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Most people regard Batiatus as one of the best characters in the show. So much of the plot in Blood and Sand as well as Gods of the Arena revolved around his ambitions and his rise and fall. It wouldn't have been anywhere near the same show (nor anywhere near as good) without him.
Infinite Justice
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I think the poster is talking in the realm of the show itself. Most of them hardly cared for him, but they dealt with him for his gladiators and their services (in and out of battle).
It was heavily inferred that was the case. Plus they hinted at during that chat session that Sparty and Illythia are going to be spending alot of time together this season.
Grimm Fandango
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While probable, my only problem is that there is little way to disprove it's Glaber's.
Speedymanic
Banned
Too slim. If it isn't Glaber's, I'm going to guess it's that kids baby, the one she seduced to make sure Varro was killed by Sparty.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Oh yeah, I remember now.
That's right. I'm aware that everyone that watches the show, myself included, loved Batiatus. But none of the characters on the show ever did, except for Lucretia. Because season 2 takes place on a much grander scale than previous seasons, I don't think his story line would have had anywhere to go. Spartacus is now dealing with people far more important than Batiatus, and it would have been tough to include him seeing as how he held no clout with any of those people. He did nothing but make enemies in the past two seasons, whereas Lucretia made quite a lot of friends so keeping her alive makes more sense.
Cornballer
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Here's the S2 premiere. You're out of luck for the rest of the season, though.
lazybones18
Banned
^Yeah looks like Encore won't be playing any episodes so I'm shit outta luck until the DVD/BR release
I LOVED the character and how Hannah played him but it would have been a cock tease if he hadn't died in season 1. He would have no place in the series now since basically everyone would want him dead/humiliated if he was alive.
She genuinely thinks/believes he is cursed/brings this upon himself.
Disobeying the Romans got him/his people thrown into chains.
His own wife thrown into chains and then killed
His best friend killed by his hand
The widow of his best friend tortured/killed after he tried to help her.
I don't blame her for saying stay the fuck away from her son even if he wanted to help her son.
I'm not condoning piracy, and don't plan on doing so myself (Parents have on demand with starz so will steal their tv an hour a week when I go over to run the dog/help my dad with the cars etc) but not being on netflix will just mean a combination of less people seeing the show, and more people pirating the show.
Hopefully they at least sell episodes on amazon video or itunes for a reasonable price so people who do a combination of legit+piracy of an easy legit way to watch the show.
TurbulentTurtle
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Eh, you can see where she's coming from, to be honest. Spartacus is kinda the reason most of this shit is going down and her losing her family.
Infinite Justice
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I agree as well about liking his character as a viewer and the fact he would be way out of his league this time around if he was still alive.
Plus IIRC Lucretia's family was higher on the class totem pole than his so she could still hang and if anything Ashur might be in new Batiatus in terms of trying to rise.
With what she went through?, not really. Hell when he offered to help her out she still got in deep shit.
But given what some of the viewers might already know about the Spartacus story it would look like she was off base.
I miss having his foul mouth around even though he deserved to die.
I read an interview with the actress saying
that her pregnancy a pretty big part of this seasons story.
Hours Left
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Just watched the first episode (hurray for the two day delay in Canada... >_>), pretty good opener. Got the story moving quickly and had plenty of Spartacesque moments.
I thought Liam did a good job. Obviously he needs a bit of time to really inhabit the role but I think he can pull it off. Great to see Illythia and Lucretia back together, their scenes are always great.
The new characters seemed to fit in right away. The siblings seem like they could be pretty diabolical, and I liked Glaber's rival in Rome and the dude with the axe. (Donar, I think?)
Very glad to have to show back.
I thought Liam did a good job. Obviously he needs a bit of time to really inhabit the role but I think he can pull it off. Great to see Illythia and Lucretia back together, their scenes are always great.
The new characters seemed to fit in right away. The siblings seem like they could be pretty diabolical, and I liked Glaber's rival in Rome and the dude with the axe. (Donar, I think?)
Very glad to have to show back.
Lone_Prodigy
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Not really; it's the classic "cursed hero" trope. Writers can't kill off the hero so they hurt everyone around him.
Cornballer
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- Onion A|V Club: Interview with Lucy Lawless
By Jupiter's cock, that was a fine fucking premiere!
Absolutely enthralled by every minute of that, and after all the pre-emptive bashing of (or just lack of confidence in) Liam, I thought he did fucking wonderfully. What a tall order, to come after Andy. He did just fine, and just like Andy, we've gotta give him a few episodes to really 'inhabit' the role, as many before me have said in the thread.
Truly riveting, and I'm so glad this show is back.
I'm really fucking ticked at the way the show's distributed though. I really miss having a show to watch with GAF, all live and in sync, like Lost or whatever. There really isn't one main airing of this show across North America. In Canada, it's on Sunday nights on TMN/HBO, and I guess it's on Friday nights in the States? I don't get it. Annoying.
Absolutely enthralled by every minute of that, and after all the pre-emptive bashing of (or just lack of confidence in) Liam, I thought he did fucking wonderfully. What a tall order, to come after Andy. He did just fine, and just like Andy, we've gotta give him a few episodes to really 'inhabit' the role, as many before me have said in the thread.
Truly riveting, and I'm so glad this show is back.
I'm really fucking ticked at the way the show's distributed though. I really miss having a show to watch with GAF, all live and in sync, like Lost or whatever. There really isn't one main airing of this show across North America. In Canada, it's on Sunday nights on TMN/HBO, and I guess it's on Friday nights in the States? I don't get it. Annoying.
Infinite Justice
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Lone_Prodigy
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Also, it doesn't look like the Romans invented chest hair. Or most body hair, for that matter.
Roman culture considered body/facial hair barbaric and intentionally shaved.
Cornballer
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- EW.com: Spartacus returns strong in the ratings
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Great to hear.
Cornballer
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Thank you. Anything to satiate my thirst for the series.
Al-ibn Kermit
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Actually I thought Lucretia's family was lower class? I'm pretty sure in Gods of the Sand, Batiatus' father told him that he warned him against marrying Lucretia just for love.
Meus Renaissance
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My comment hasn't so much to do with Liam as it is about the new role Spartacus has. In Blood & Sand, he was subdued and introspective; quiet. It was the tragedy of his wife and underplayed skill in the arena and regular super saiyan moments triggered by memory of his wife (wrapping piece of cloth from her dress on his wrist) that made him an enigmatic character the audience became intrigued by. He was incredibly distinct to the others.
Now, he is actively seeking vengeance, this more outward display of anger and violence will take a bit of time to adapt to.
Now, he is actively seeking vengeance, this more outward display of anger and violence will take a bit of time to adapt to.
Meus Renaissance
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I wanted to purchase this
I've never had a season set so I'm wondering whether inside this box we'll have the individual cases (like below) or not
I've never had a season set so I'm wondering whether inside this box we'll have the individual cases (like below) or not
Meus Renaissance
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There was a passage of time between the escape and this
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
I'm not sure, but I'm inclined to say no.
HarryHengst
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No, Batiatus was from a higher class. Its why his dad wants to have him cancel his marriage with her in Gods of the Arena.
There is no way to ever tell who the father is in ancient Rome, so it'll be Glaber's kid no matter what they allude to.
Spartacus will probably kill Illythia at the end of the season anyways, or maybe just the baby, both to spite Glaber and just in case it's his kid, Crixus style.
Discotheque
Banned
Pretty decent episode. A few thoughts:
- Crixus is getting better scenes now that he's out of the arena role of "rival gladiator" that he was restricted to last couple seasons
- New Spartacus is aiight, nothing wrong with him. Will get used to him soon, RIP Whitfield
- The orgy scene at the whorehouse was just ridiculous, even for this show's standards
- I understand they have to show everybody's abs, it's become a staple of this show apparently. But shouldn't these dudes be picking up armor from fallen soldiers? Crixus is right, these bitches aint no army.
- new girl (bad guy's sister) is cute but a bloody horrible actress, restrict her scenes
- Crixus is getting better scenes now that he's out of the arena role of "rival gladiator" that he was restricted to last couple seasons
- New Spartacus is aiight, nothing wrong with him. Will get used to him soon, RIP Whitfield
- The orgy scene at the whorehouse was just ridiculous, even for this show's standards
- I understand they have to show everybody's abs, it's become a staple of this show apparently. But shouldn't these dudes be picking up armor from fallen soldiers? Crixus is right, these bitches aint no army.
- new girl (bad guy's sister) is cute but a bloody horrible actress, restrict her scenes
Pretty decent episode. A few thoughts:
- Crixus is getting better scenes now that he's out of the arena role of "rival gladiator" that he was restricted to last couple seasons
- New Spartacus is aiight, nothing wrong with him. Will get used to him soon, RIP Whitfield
- The orgy scene at the whorehouse was just ridiculous, even for this show's standards
- I understand they have to show everybody's abs, it's become a staple of this show apparently. But shouldn't these dudes be picking up armor from fallen soldiers? Crixus is right, these bitches aint no army.
- new girl (bad guy's sister) is cute but a bloody horrible actress, restrict her scenes
1) Time will tell!
2) Agreed :| brohug
3) Nah not really, this is what we love about Spartacus (or one of the things)
4) Well, they are gladiators and they ain't used to wear heavy armours :>
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5) She will soon be naked and ramed I belive.
ClosingADoor
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Armor will only slow you down and get in the way in the battles they are in (quick and up close).
It depends from set to set. I have had some sets that consist out of seperate boxes.I wanted to purchase this
I've never had a season set so I'm wondering whether inside this box we'll have the individual cases (like below) or not
Discotheque
Banned
Yeah but this will prove extremely troublesome once the archers appear and the like. They should get on that.
Oh and Crixus looked buck in that turban get-up. Hell they all looked cool in the scarves. Keep it!
Oh and Crixus looked buck in that turban get-up. Hell they all looked cool in the scarves. Keep it!
HarryHengst
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Its the equivalent of boob-armour which videogames have in abundance. True, it makes no sense, but I find it refreshing that males are objectified as well.
Al-ibn Kermit
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You think a couple dozen gladiators are going to march against a Roman legion in phalanx formation?
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Spartacus should have kept his armour, was pretty cool.
Maybe they will just say it's "how they are used to fighting" or something.
Meus Renaissance
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Was the premiere dedicated to Andy? Did it have some sort of message?
It did after the credits.
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