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[mr_boo]

I haven't played this game in a few weeks, but saw that arturo dlc auto block gem nonsense. Wow, where is capcom taking this game. How is that shit seen as acceptable?

I ran into a couple of these dlc auto block gem users yesterday - the difficult part was that these users were pretty high rank players, so it's not like they were beginners (I lost both matches). It was pretty frustrating ... the gem would trigger without doubt several times during the match (sometimes in succession), which is essentially damage taken away from me.

To me, it's pretty much BS ... the game already has issues with certain characters being too advantageous, so it gets expotentially worse when you run into these characters with this BS gem equipped.

 

[BHK3]

So I played it for the first time yesterday.

There's no way to put it back to the old input style is there? I really don't like that it only takes one quarter circle and the like to do supers.

 

[SUPARSTARX]

So I played it for the first time yesterday.

There's no way to put it back to the old input style is there? I really don't like that it only takes one quarter circle and the like to do supers.

Why? It's like Marvel.

 

[Nyoro SF]

So I played it for the first time yesterday.

There's no way to put it back to the old input style is there? I really don't like that it only takes one quarter circle and the like to do supers.

Wow. People will really complain about everything.

 

[riceandbeans]

So how much of a disadvantage will someone be if they don't buy the DLC gems and play against others who have them?

 

[SUPARSTARX]

None. 98% of people online don't even optimize gem loadouts. Some of the DLC gems have strict conditions.

 

[zlatko]

So I played it for the first time yesterday.

There's no way to put it back to the old input style is there? I really don't like that it only takes one quarter circle and the like to do supers.

You can double motion if you want. Just buffers it for ya.

 

[hertog]

I'm not sure how he was in SFIV but it's irritating to face him in this game. lol
He's definitely one of the better players in the game.

As a Guile player I can confirm that I've never felt this top-tier.
He's a solid A rank, below Ryu, Rufus, Kazuya, Raven and maybe Gief.

 

[BHK3]

Why? It's like Marvel.

I'm not playing marvel.

Wow. People will really complain about everything.

I can't do EX attacks anymore, that's my problem.

You can double motion if you want. Just buffers it for ya.

What does buffer mean?

 

[kevo_huevo]

EX move: motion + two buttons pressed
Super: motion + three buttoms pressed

for some people (including myself) the EX input was never a problem, because you only had to press two buttons to do ex moves in SF4.

 

[FormallyFamicom]

Three button EX pushing isn't a good idea for this game anyway since some characters have different EX moves depending on which two buttons you use. Like Kazuya's QCB+LP+MP/MP+HP/LP+HP all do something different.

 

[zlatko]

I'm not playing marvel.

I can't do EX attacks anymore, that's my problem.

What does buffer mean?

In your case for buffer it means you can do the QCF motion for example more than once. Two QCF and then a punch will still give you Hadouken with Ryu for example. You can do 400 Hadouken motions in a row then a punch, you'll still get Hadouken, UNLESS of course you are doing it too fast and fucking up inputs to make it give you a shoryuken.

 

[SUPARSTARX]

Gem discussion on SRK

http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/gem-synergy-optimization.160205/

 

[B-Genius]

- get hit 5 times, activate 100+ fortitude. Cause why not?

This is interesting. I guess if you've been hit 5 times, it's possible you're in mid combo/juggle and want to cut down subsequent damage.

If I'm gonna use a Fortitude gem, I tend to apply the "block x times" or "opponent blocks x times" activator. Reason being that if I'm on the receiving end of a block string, I'm probably gonna get tricked/thrown eventually - or if I haven't gotten in that ass yet, I'm probably gonna end up getting countered or punished for something stupid.

Gems are nice for theory/tactical fighting, but I agree with pretty much everyone on the auto-block/tech monstrosities.

 

[Man From Atlantis]

hi folks,
is it out on pc if not when ?

 

[LakeEarth]

This is interesting. I guess if you've been hit 5 times, it's possible you're in mid combo/juggle and want to cut down subsequent damage.

If I'm gonna use a Fortitude gem, I tend to apply the "block x times" or "opponent blocks x times" activator. Reason being that if I'm on the receiving end of a block string, I'm probably gonna get tricked/thrown eventually - or if I haven't gotten in that ass yet, I'm probably gonna end up getting countered or punished for something stupid.

Gems are nice for theory/tactical fighting, but I agree with pretty much everyone on the auto-block/tech monstrosities.

Yeah I like the ones that activate when getting hit, I like seeing myself getting hit by Xiao's kick x 6 loop and watching my health drain, drain, stay the same, stay the same, drain, drain, etc

Also, never pick the 10% defense gems. The 100 fortitude gems take the same amount of slots, and give you 100 points of defense. To get the same out of the 10% gem, you have to get hit for 1000 damage..uhhhh... a gem isn't going to save you if that happens.

But then the 20% defense gems make more sense than the 130 fortitude gems, at least in theory.

 

[AppleMIX]

hi folks,
is it out on pc if not when ?

Bought it off steam and still hasn't unlock yet.

 

[comrade]

Bought it off steam and still hasn't unlock yet.

Release dates been removed for a few days as well.

 

[Nabs]

It's out on Gamefly, so I'm guessing the Steam release will happen this afternoon.

 

[kevo_huevo]

tried out some new teams online last night, felt good to land raven's crouching fierce loop on a few separate occasions. i think one of the hardest parts about trying out a new team is learning to use optimal damage combos off of cross rush/tag cancels.

 

[TP]

I stayed up until 3 am last night hoping to buy and start the download on xbox.com
looks like I might be waiting a while =/

 

[SUPARSTARX]

Hehe pc version is prepatch with sound issue. In b4 Capcom hates PC gamers.

 

[Nyoro SF]

Hehe pc version is prepatch with sound issue. In b4 Capcom hates PC gamers.

Wouldn't call it hate. Just a pure lazy cash grab.

 

[AAK]

Haven't played in a while, anyone want to have some games?

 

[Degen]

Haven't played in a while, anyone want to have some games?

heck, I'm bored enough. Bring it.

 

[AAK]

invite sent

EDIT: Holy crap I forgot how to play

And I also forgot how many disconnects still happen :/

 

[Degen]

good to see I didn't forget anything good because I never knew anything good

 

[Degen]

AAK made some godlike reads against this other Canadian guy. That EX upkick, man


edit: ohhh god king why

 

[AAK]

When did Kuma become so awesome???

 

[Degen]

5000BP for nothing! GAF ain't scared


Teaming with the enemy, AAK... smh

that's what you get, AAK! that's what you get! lol

 

[AAK]

Forgetting Roxen?? That's our very own Sayah

 

[Degen]

ohhhhhh. well that makes sense lol

so wait, Sayah is a beast at both games...


Other guy just left; hope he wasn't also secretly from TekkenGAF lol

Sayah is a monster... this is like... well I guess it's like playing Sayah in Tekken 6

AAK, stop doing cool stuff with Asuka

Corner combos aaahhh

 

[AAK]

NOOOOO!!! Why does a Level 3 get absorbed!!! LOL

 

[Sayah]

ohhhhhh. well that makes sense lol

so wait, Sayah is a beast at both games...


Other guy just left; hope he wasn't also secretly from TekkenGAF lol

Sayah is a monster... this is like... well I guess it's like playing Sayah in Tekken 6

AAK, stop doing cool stuff with Asuka

Corner combos aaahhh

Your Hugo is a MONSTER.

 

[Sayah]

That's RIGHT. You're not the only one who can mix up highs and lows.

Edit: Nina's health is so pathetic.

 

[Degen]

You just didn't wanna let me win. That's messed up, Team Tekken


nooooo whaaaaatt

I think my router just ragequit

 

[AAK]

Damn... those were some fun games though

 

[Sayah]

Now my PS3 is acting up. Taking forever to load a message. :/
And now I can't create lobbies for whatever reason. More of :/

 

[Degen]

Professor Beef must feel this way, only scrubbier

Damn... those were some fun games though

No doubt. I'd work on doing Kuma/Hugo combos that require thought if I hadn't already ditched the game for T6 and SC5 on a serious level

GGs AAK, Sayah, and random Canadian players

 

[kevo_huevo]

Dang anyone else on ps3 right now??

 

[Card Boy]

So anyone modded the PC version yet to get the 12 characters?

 

[Sayah]

Me and AAK spending the whole Friday night/Saturday morning playing this, lol. I needed this long game break after busting my ass for school. Pair play is so much fun. GGS to all.

Dang anyone else on ps3 right now??

I'll be on again tomorrow if you want to play.

 

[Moaradin]

So anyone modded the PC version yet to get the 12 characters?

I heard Capcom took the DLC characters out of the PC version because they knew they would be unlocked as soon as the game becomes available. A shame because I was looking forward to playing Sakura =(

 

[hertog]

What boost gem load out are you guys using with your team's order?

Guile/King


Guile:

- 20% damage boost after hitting 4 specials

- 20% metergain after attack gets blocked 4 times

- Auto Tech-throw, so I'll always keep my charge and I'll have an edge against my greatest weakness... Ryu



King:

- 10% damage after partner hits launcher, king is all about launcher combo's

- 20% damage after super, so he has an awesome punishing super or a great combo-ender

- 10% speed after launcher, when king gets in, he needs to get things done quickly of GTFO.

 

[SUPARSTARX]

They shouldn't even be allowing assist gems on the selection at the IPW/Southtown Arcade stream. C'mon Haunts. You know the game is good without them. Don't show it with that stuff plaguing games' strengths.

Even Ono said they were in the game to help people learn.

 

[Tizoc]

Any SFxT matches/ranbats that use Gems on YT?

 

[Sayah]

It's pretty much BS that all the female characters in this game have lower health. It would make sense if any of them were overpowered but the sad fact is that they're not. Two shoryukens and there goes 35% of my health.

 

[Myomoto]

It's pretty much BS that all the female characters in this game have lower health. It would make sense if any of them were overpowered but the sad fact is that they're not. Two shoryukens and there goes 35% of my health.

Welcome to Misogyny Fighter. This has almost always been the case. The ladies at least usually have higher movement speeds.

 

[Sayah]

Welcome to Misogyny Fighter. This has almost always been the case. The ladies at least usually have higher movement speeds.

That's actually the only reason I often end up with female characters. I prefer agility over everything else. Although, in this game my only female character is Nina and sometimes (rarely) Lili.

I started paying attention to the damage output in a few matches. Result: a few hits from certain characters or two grabs from Hugo/Zangief = 50-70% health gone.

With Nina:
1. My attacks don't take nearly as much damage.
2. Less health.
3. Less recovery health damage than other characters.

I'm finding mostly all of the SF side to be problematic characters. From braindead Juri's to overpowered grapplers to wild chases with the shotos. This amount of character imbalance has basically convinced me to not even touch SFIV.

Fix your games Capcpom.

In any case, still enjoying this game despite all of this.

 

[hertog]

Been using Sagat now as a second character to my Guile. And this really feels like a winning combination.

He feels really solid, easy combo's and he can use all the meter he wants.