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EricDiesel said:
Sexy != Sexualised
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Strong (not sexualised) female characters in this generation?
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Sexy != Sexualised
Jesus, some days I feel like GAF is exclusively populated by the Amish.
jim-jam bongs
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Alyx can't survive going toe-to-toe with a hunter, that's a pretty major flaw imo.
WanderingWind
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jim-jam bongs said:
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NullPointer
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I'll see your berzerker and raise you a Titan.g.r.e. said:
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
That bitch was climbing a mountain NAKED...NullPointer said:I'll see your berzerker and raise you a Titan.
She's a freak
NullPointer
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Fixed. And agreed.~Devil Trigger~ said:
Onion_Relish
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NullPointer
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Its obvious that natural bush just scares sexists like you ;pKinyou said:
Mr. Enigma
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Lucy from Assassin's Creed.
jim-jam bongs
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Moira is just a fucking annoying character. She may be non-sexualised but that doesn't mean that every character needs to be like Moira to be so. The same goes for female characters like Shale and the Titan on this page, since they're indistinguishable from male characters.
Maybe it would help if I explained this from the perspective of a friend of mine. She's a smart, attractive 25 year old career woman who works in a male dominated industry. When she first started her career she used to try to be "one of the boys" because she thought it would help her to fit in. That meant emphasising the parts of her personality which are either masculine or gender neutral to the detriment of her feminine side.
The end result was unhappiness. What became clear was that she would only ever be "one of the boys" in name alone. They would never accept her fully, and no matter how many times she tried to suppress her femininity it didn't stop the comments about her gender or appearance coming out in professional situations. For example, she was once introduced to a client by a male colleague with this incredibly detailed list of her achievements, which was then capped off with "and she's pretty easy on the eyes too", basically undermining all of the other things he had mentioned.
So now she has a different attitude. Now she embraces the fact that she is sexy, which gives her power. She draws a very sharp line in the sand which she won't step over; the idea is to use the fact that she's a woman as a means of gaining power, not to fuck her way to the top. If she is meeting with a male client who obviously finds her attractive she will smile and be nice to that guy because she knows that will make the meeting more pleasant, but she will never lead him on and make him think that she'd trade sex for business.
These are all issues of power-dynamics. The most interesting part of the recent blog post condemning the sexist response to the Gizmodo/Magic date scandal was the part about how the worst thing a man fears when interacting with a woman is being laughed at, while a woman's worst fear is being raped and murdered. The point I'm making here is that, if you take the above dynamic at face value, that fear which men have coupled with our innate tendency towards trying to please women we find appealing can be easily exploited by a smart woman who isn't afraid to be sexy.
Maybe it would help if I explained this from the perspective of a friend of mine. She's a smart, attractive 25 year old career woman who works in a male dominated industry. When she first started her career she used to try to be "one of the boys" because she thought it would help her to fit in. That meant emphasising the parts of her personality which are either masculine or gender neutral to the detriment of her feminine side.
The end result was unhappiness. What became clear was that she would only ever be "one of the boys" in name alone. They would never accept her fully, and no matter how many times she tried to suppress her femininity it didn't stop the comments about her gender or appearance coming out in professional situations. For example, she was once introduced to a client by a male colleague with this incredibly detailed list of her achievements, which was then capped off with "and she's pretty easy on the eyes too", basically undermining all of the other things he had mentioned.
So now she has a different attitude. Now she embraces the fact that she is sexy, which gives her power. She draws a very sharp line in the sand which she won't step over; the idea is to use the fact that she's a woman as a means of gaining power, not to fuck her way to the top. If she is meeting with a male client who obviously finds her attractive she will smile and be nice to that guy because she knows that will make the meeting more pleasant, but she will never lead him on and make him think that she'd trade sex for business.
These are all issues of power-dynamics. The most interesting part of the recent blog post condemning the sexist response to the Gizmodo/Magic date scandal was the part about how the worst thing a man fears when interacting with a woman is being laughed at, while a woman's worst fear is being raped and murdered. The point I'm making here is that, if you take the above dynamic at face value, that fear which men have coupled with our innate tendency towards trying to please women we find appealing can be easily exploited by a smart woman who isn't afraid to be sexy.
sixteen-bit
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Berserker post was great.
timetokill
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Bonnie from RDR is the best in the thread, by far. Great character.
I really enjoyed Morrigan in Dragon Age too. Zelda has been great in the Zelda games lately. I liked her portrayal in Spirit Tracks.
And if we're counting Twilight Princess, Midna was an extremely good female character, along with Zelda and... well, really most of the Zelda females are strong without being about the sex appeal.
I think it's possible for female characters to have sex appeal without "sex appeal" being the only reason for their presence in the game.
For instance -- the chick in Heavy Rain is literally ONLY there to fulfill Cage's fetishes. But what's worse is she not only is a boring, stupid character that is only there for sex appeal, but she actually makes the story worse by opening up giant plot holes.
I really enjoyed Morrigan in Dragon Age too. Zelda has been great in the Zelda games lately. I liked her portrayal in Spirit Tracks.
And if we're counting Twilight Princess, Midna was an extremely good female character, along with Zelda and... well, really most of the Zelda females are strong without being about the sex appeal.
I think it's possible for female characters to have sex appeal without "sex appeal" being the only reason for their presence in the game.
For instance -- the chick in Heavy Rain is literally ONLY there to fulfill Cage's fetishes. But what's worse is she not only is a boring, stupid character that is only there for sex appeal, but she actually makes the story worse by opening up giant plot holes.
timetokill
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Because the thread title says "this generation?"JWong said:
Sneaky Gato
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BigJiantRobut said:
The pics certainly portray them as sexualized which I think comes from the fact that their line was first created during the early 90's/late 80's and suffered from bad model syndrome but I'm not sure if that carries over to the fluff (Luckily this looks to be resolved in the upcoming update next year). In the fluff they have been portrayed as everything from linguists, archaeolgists, diplmats, and docters in addition to their combat duties. Their normal wear has been described as monastic than titlating. Their organization is one of the more powerful in the in the Imperium and one of the scariest. In fact, in universe they seem more feared than sexualized.
IoCaster
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Emma Honeywell
Htown said:
One of my favorite video game characters ever. A tough, uncompromising woman with a grown-up adult daughter. As non-sexualized as it gets, but unmistakably female.
Htown said:
Can't argue with that.
Big Spoiler - Emma vs Conqueror
jim-jam bongs
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Clearly you just wish you were more like Ke$ha.
XANDER CAGE
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Sneaky Gato said:
Character-wise, absolutely, but let's be real here:
Their visual design was totally designed to be sexy (terrible old official art as it may be) in a dom kind of way. This kind of character design pops up in male-oriented fiction a lot, and video games are no exception. It ain't a bad thing, but let's not pretend they wear black metal boots for no reason.
fernoca said:
- Zelda (Twlight Princess)
You realize that TP shows Zelda surrendering her entire kingdom to Zant in order to save her own life, right? She's also kept as a prisoner for the majority of the game. Not to mention that many of the characters in the game (especially Midna, and Zelda herself included IIRC) constantly remind you that she is completely detached from the average citizen and can't understand suffering (especially the Twili's). The only heroic things she does are at the very end of the game.
AzureNightmare
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WRONG.Kiiji said:
IdreamofHIME
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My Dragon Age heroine...though she did sleep with everyone in the party and then dump them like a hot potato when achievement was unlocked. Oops.
PumpkinPie
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blitzcloud said:
Big mama?
Ziggy Stardust?
TeK-DeLorean
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People find lightning sexualized?? really??
anyways my list
Seth from Lost Odyssey, easily my favorite character in the game
Lightning
Nariko
Kat
Faith
Flemmith
Morrigan
I think people who disagree with Nariko have probably not played the fucking game. Are we just going by outfits or the character?
anyways my list
Seth from Lost Odyssey, easily my favorite character in the game
Lightning
Nariko
Kat
Faith
Flemmith
Morrigan
I think people who disagree with Nariko have probably not played the fucking game. Are we just going by outfits or the character?
BigJiantRobut said:
If your definition of highly sexualized stops at physical appearance and is calculated as the sum total of attractive feminine traits, then yes, I can see your point. Not all Sisters of Battle wear black boots (depends on Order IIRC) and not all of them are attractive, especially if you look at some of the tabletop models.
They're zealous space nuns, their isn't much to not like about them.
