apparently is the contrary, kasdan wanted that, lord and miller didnt
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THR: Ron Howard officially directing Han Solo after Lord/Miller firing
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apparently is the contrary, kasdan wanted that, lord and miller didnt
XANDER CAGE
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No shit? Wild.
That could certainly have happened, but then you have to define what the "right" idea for a young Han Solo even is, and its difficult because there's not yet an official story that's chronicled it yet.
We also have the fact that they've batted 4-0 with the films they have made so far and another report stated it was fine.
Bobby's take on the whole thing being a potentially great movie on its own, but disjointed when put in the rest of the universe is probably the right one. And honestly, that's why I wanted to see it so badly.
Why can't "different" be right? The two ideas aren't irreconcilable. It's like how Better Call Saul has Jimmy McGill as someone who is pretty far removed from the cold hearted Saul Goodman we see in Breaking Bad. A good prequel usually shows us a different side of the character.
different can be right if it is good, something is not good just because is different
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Is that what you were basing it on?
Of course. Did I say it would be good because it is different? I'm saying I'm more interested in something different, which again is the whole point of the spinoffs.
Was thinking the same thing. Is there any actual source?
i mean, i obviously take everything with a grain of salt, we really cant confirm anything, but if you say is bonkers i will trust you
Heh
-ImaginaryInsider
Member
Thank you for the entire reply and your take on all of this.
As you pointed out, given how much footage was already shot and how little time Ron Howard has to really rework this, we might end up getting something closer to what Lord and Miller wanted anyway.
SCULLIBUNDO
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lol
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
It's difficult to see any of this in a positive way. However, I can say for sure now that as soon as the movie starts and is missing the Arrested Development narrator I'm going to be disappointed.
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
See this is what I expect now and anything less will just be a failure.
I know this is a double post but I'm on mobile and I'm not even sorry
-ImaginaryInsider
Member
From a Telegraph article last year:
It's interesting how much of a tonal disconnect eventually took place considering how close Lord and Miller were working with Kasdan early on.
It's interesting how much of a tonal disconnect eventually took place considering how close Lord and Miller were working with Kasdan early on.
old manatee
Banned
I guess Kevin Costner was busy.
It's always funny to see after a separation on a project how the team spoke about each other previously.
I'd be all for Costner directing a Star Wars movie, but he'd never do it unless he could also star in it lol.
Finally Googled who Lord and Miller are. Really? Dudes who did Clone High, 21 Jump Street, and The Lego Movie are somehow being seen as a loss vs Ron Howard. Wow. Guess we just hate established old directors now.
As I said earlier, Howard knows how to do space and speed. This is key for a Han Solo flick. Nothing was lost, more was gained.
As I said earlier, Howard knows how to do space and speed. This is key for a Han Solo flick. Nothing was lost, more was gained.
brandonh83
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Never said it couldn't​ be, just that there seems to be such a lust from certain people for a SW movie to be radically different to the point where it's damn near unrecognizable or it's being "played safe."
This movie can't take place long before IV, so I don't see why the character would need to be a lot different.
DontBeThatGuy
Member
Yep, but still not that interested.
Chmpocalypse
Blizzard
Lololol
Oh wow, thanks for that. Sounds like he is gearing up for a long haul with this series.
Warm Machine
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SuperNova and Enemy Mine were similar. Exorcist The Beginning is the worst outcome. This also happened to 13th Warrior / Eaters of the Dead.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
lol, yeah what the hell was that statement??
That said, they definitely seemed a better fit for this.
broncobuster
Banned
fwiw that's Ron Howard winning for A Beautiful Mind, his 15th or so movie over a decade ago.
Lord&Miller do have a better track record, but only because they're 4/4, where Ron Howard has made like five or six times as many movies. Inconsistency is natural at that point. I suppose there's a case if you compare his last four movies, but hey, at least Rush is pretty darn good.
That's a sketchy write up with all the contradictions going on...
22 Jump Street and Lego Batman are not exactly Earth shattering classics. I'm not celebrating their departure, but if they're depicting Han Solo in such a way that Kasdan, the man who wrote Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, and Indiana Jones RotLA, vehemently disagrees... I think I'd rather see them leave, too.
How the hell can anyone want a young Han Solo movie that doesn't fit in with the views of the writer of three Harrison Ford quintessential landmark films?
Their humor is frequently crass and goofy, often at the expense of the characters. Batman and Joker's relationship was depicted as romantic. It's not hard for me to believe claims that they turned Han into Ace Ventura.
How the hell can anyone want a young Han Solo movie that doesn't fit in with the views of the writer of three Harrison Ford quintessential landmark films?
Their humor is frequently crass and goofy, often at the expense of the characters. Batman and Joker's relationship was depicted as romantic. It's not hard for me to believe claims that they turned Han into Ace Ventura.
It sounds like they weren't totally aligned from the start and tried to get there eventually but just didn't.
Nappuccino
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They did the Lego movie, not Lego Batman...
WadiumArcadium
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They were only producers on LEGO Batman, unlike the LEGO Movie which they wrote and directed.
Theodoricos
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Are people really upset that an Oscar winner is taking the place of the guys who made The Lego Movie and Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs?
I wish they were never involved in the project in the first place. This movie will be a mess.
I wish they were never involved in the project in the first place. This movie will be a mess.
Thank you for the correction! That's definitely an improvement. I still can't imagine wanting a movie that defies Kasdan's vision.
shira
Member
Han shot first
-ImaginaryInsider
Member
With the amount of rumors claiming Lucasfilms wanted it word for word from Kasdan's script, it's just interesting that this interview implies Lord and Miller were heavily involved in the script with Kasdan willingly adding in their suggestions fairly close to the start of filming.
At some point everyone's vision aligned enough to be willing to work in new elements to the script, then to let them start filming, then to let them continue filming for four months.
You'd think a massive production-halting disagreement over tone would have happened in the scripting phase and stopped everything right there.
Pumpernickle Humperdink
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we went from this
to this
smh
FriendlyGoat
Member
They could could take advantage of Star Wars' traditional vague time jumps in between cuts and go the extra mile for a surprise open by making it an interquel of Han telling Rey and Finn a little story about how he got the ship while they are hanging out on way to Takodana. Give them a little bit of a stronger connection to Han that was missing in TFA.
That might actually get me excited for this film.
But I don't think there's anyway they pony up the kind of dough it would take to get Harrison Ford to do it.
brandonh83
Banned
Sounds risky at least.
Lifejumper
Member
Lmao that ace ventura bit sounds a bit hyperbolic.
brandonh83
Banned
I don't quite believe that either.
CreepingFear
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we went from thisto thissmh
I like milk. Red Bull tastes like shit. Bad analogy.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
It does but then they haven't done anything more subdued...well ever. I think that's the risk in going with them, you don't know what their range is. The Lego Movie, Cloudy with a Chance, Last Man on Earth, and the Jump Streets are all hyper absurd in tone. But there isn't anything in their resume that indicates they could dial that back if need be.
That's so far on the extreme end that I have a hard time seeing how Kennedy and co didn't shoot that down to begin with. How do you film three months of that before somebody steps in? Even 21 and 22 Jump Street were nowhere near that type of comedy.
Lifejumper
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KK has alot on her plate for a producer thats pretty 'hands on': Episode 8 post production, Episode 9 is supposed to be shooting in January, the Han solo movie and deciding the creative team for the 2020 spinoff. The workload seems insane.
-ImaginaryInsider
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Since we're going by rumors:
Going from this, it seems like Lord and Miller gave themselves tons of options tonally, rather than the whole thing being one crazy "Ace Ventura" level through out. Given they were allowed to film this long, and the release date has yet to be pushed back, Ron Howard isn't going to have a lot of time, so it points to a large portion of the footage they shot being usable.
Han wasn't exactly the brightest bulb when we ran into him in a new hope. By the time Empire, return and force awakens came through he was more serious but I would t say it's out of the realm of possibility for him and lando to be knuckleheaded space pirates when they were younger. Now granted Ace Ventura level dumb is abit much but I don't know if I'd believe that
Yeah. At this point, getting the job done is far more important than artistic concerns.