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Trump talks tough on NAFTA for eleven hours and then backs down.
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TheContact
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No in the debates he trashed NAFTA hard
easyD's greatest hits with added bonus. Looking for excuse to justify shutdown of government.
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easyD's greatest hits with added bonus. Looking for excuse to justify shutdown of government.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump
"Relationships are good-deal very possible"????????
i think he means "relationships are good; deal very possible" 2 separate thoughts...but with his shitty reading/writing/everything skills its easy to take that as "good-deal"
"The relationships are good, so an improved deal is very possible."
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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I see class was in session for our student President again.
Herr Schwarz
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So he asked about NAFTA 10 times, and on the 11th he chilled off.
This seems like the actions of a really compulsive guy.
Like you know when you're at the supermarket, and you've got your trolley of food waiting in line to get served by the check out lady. They usually have chewing gum and other random shit to purchase for impulse buyers.
Trump would be like, grabbing the crap out f that chewing gum and other snacks.
This seems like the actions of a really compulsive guy.
Like you know when you're at the supermarket, and you've got your trolley of food waiting in line to get served by the check out lady. They usually have chewing gum and other random shit to purchase for impulse buyers.
Trump would be like, grabbing the crap out f that chewing gum and other snacks.
Bruce Springsteen
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Swing and a miss
SurprisedPikachu
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This is a New York Times article, not an article on the White House website. Thanks anyway! Seems like the story of renegotiations has broken out everywhere. I'm just skeptical of things these days.
matthewwhatever
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This isn't a win or a loss. It's nothing. As others have pointed out, the day ends in exactly the same spot as it began: the U.S. kinda, sorta, maybe wanting to reopen NAFTA, which is something Canada called for literally the day after the election (and which I know for a fact is something they'd been discussing for a long time before that), and Mexico agreed to at least a month and a half ago. Calling it a win for Trump stretching the definition of the word "win."
RPGCrazied
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Master negotiator. He always flops under pressure. Its truly is a sight to behold.
SliceSabre
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Some other people not Bannon probably told him "That is a seriously fuck stupid idea to just pull out, you're literally asking Mexico and Canada to fuck us over at that point."
Blue Submarine No. 6
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Justin Trudeau publicly stated that Canada will be happy to renegotiate NAFTA with the US and Mexico in November, 2016 (Nov. 9th, to be precise), and Canada has maintained that position ever since. Canada's willingness to meet at the negotiating table has nothing to do with bullshit the orange baboon pulled this week.
Souldriver
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Trump has no spine whatsoever, and only talks big words when it's to a friendly crowd.
....we should all be thankful for that.
....we should all be thankful for that.
Laevateinn
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Trump's great talent is turning something everything already agreed on into a loss.
Yup. this sums this shit storm up. Nothing has been accomplished other than softwood duties.
He's doing exactly what's already been done 7 years ago. TPP was to be the new nafta.
Journeywalker
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Time to start looking into anyone that's making bank off of fluctuations in the peso.
easyD's greatest hits with added bonus. Looking for excuse to justify shutdown of government.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump
Why does it always take him 8-9 minutes to type each tweet that continues one thought? Does he still have a phone that still does numerical texting or something?
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
"Fuck this thing" ---> stern discussion behind closed doors --> "Nevermind, this thing's great"
Maybe he refuses to use any sort of autocorrect or prediction because he doesn't want anyone telling him what to do.
I H8 Memes
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Like a rudderless ship. I think by the time Trump leaves China will be the leader of the world.
They only cared that a diet racist is the president.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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It's been "fun" watching our President expose his own lack of conviction on anything through the way he constantly changes his mind or public statements based on who last talked to him. Whoever's in his ear last gets to manipulate him to whatever ends they want, and his insecurities prevent him from having any clarity about his ideals or honestly discussing his opinions with us (if he has any at all, really).
If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.
If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.
This is quite the tactic he's worked out for himself...
Trump: NAFTA sucks! I will get rid of it and get better terms or I'll make the wall taller!!!
Audience: Yay!!!!
....100 days later....
Trump: I've looked into it and I've made some demands and they all agree with me that the deal is better now!
Audience: Yay!!!! He's just like us!!!
Trump: NAFTA sucks! I will get rid of it and get better terms or I'll make the wall taller!!!
Audience: Yay!!!!
....100 days later....
Trump: I've looked into it and I've made some demands and they all agree with me that the deal is better now!
Audience: Yay!!!! He's just like us!!!
Try "10 hours later" instead.
On the_d yesterday, there was a thread about Trump withdrawing from NAFTA and the replies were: "So much winning", "God Emperor does it again!", "America Fuck Yeah!".
Then, later in the day, there was a new thread about Trump renegotiating NAFTA instead and the replies were, wait for it: "So much winning", "God Emperor does it again!", "America Fuck Yeah!".
That place is fascinating.
I still can't tell how many real people are on that subreddit, and how many are just bots designed to heap praise and worship in every thread.
No to the bolded. That's completely wrong.
Both Pena and Trudeau said they're up for renegotiating NAFTA many months ago. Despite how loud Trump has been about NAFTA screwing the US, both Mexico and Canada have their own grievances with the agreement. The NAFTA bluff was posturing by Trump to make himself feel like a big boy.
If the other leaders had said "no way we're renegotiating NAFTA", Trump threatens to leave, and then Pena and Trudeau agree to renegotiate, you'd have a point. But that's not what happened what-so-ever.
Indeed. Article from March of last year, Canada saw no issue with renegotiation.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/31/cana...t-future-of-nafta-other-trade-agreements.html
Mexico the same. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-trade-nafta-idUSKCN105299?il=0
plagiarize
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Another meeting with world leaders, another total loss for the 'best negotiator'.
He has never walked out of one of those meetings with what he said he would prior to going in.
He has never walked out of one of those meetings with what he said he would prior to going in.
SoRuffShoNuff
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I keep reading about how Trump keeps losing yet when I go to work his supporters talk about how he is getting what he wants. Seems Trump is very good at turning what should be an L into a W by controlling the narrative.
And how many reports do we need that his voters would vote for him again in a heartbeat and give him an A so far.
Mr. Poolman
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A paper tiger.
plagiarize
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His faithful haven't woken up. I'm not sure they ever will.
That doesn't make this a win for those of us outside the reality distortion field.
Lactose_Intolerant
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I think there is a difference between people that voted for him and his supporters. I don't think you should lump them all together on this and many other issues.
Yeah....as dumb as it may seem, there are people who don't actually like Trump (didn't vote for him in the primaries), but voted for him over Hillary. Of course, don't expect those people to ever support anyone who's not Republican.
Alebrije
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11:30 AM Eastern:
We went from threat to surrender in 11 hours, mmmmmmmmmm, great negotiator.
I can't actually get too mad about that deal making is an art line since Trump didn't even write or think that. His ghost writer did in attempt to try to add some substance and likability to Trump rather than just portray him as an amoral businessman that was only interested in money, and when Trump read that line, he loved it and decided that this is how he had been all the time, even though he didn't know it.
So, kudos to the writer--who now regrets having written that book, and admits he now knows what Oppenheimer must have felt like when they detonated the first nuclear bomb--I can appreciate the craft in what he was trying to do with that writing, but that's just Trump appropriating someone else's work and ideas again.
Those are people who don't actually pay any attention to a thing that happens. They listen to the absurd hyperbole Trump engages in for almost every sentence he ever speaks and believe it wholesale.
They've decided "He's perfect and brilliant and everything he does is correct and a win" and that's that.
art of the deal is hilarious because Trump still manages to look like an asshole, even when you know the ghost writer is making his best effort to make him likeable
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