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Wii U Watch_Dogs canceled? GS Italy says so; Ubisoft no comment; back on gamestop.it
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Zombie James
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Definitely not a good sign.
You're using the concorde fallacy.
There are opportunity costs and additional costs when deciding to continue a project you think will not recoup its money back.
Printing and distribution, as well as any additional engineering tasks on the WiIU project are not $0.
shinobi602
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It wants to come inside and join the party.
ScepticMatt
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ruh roh...
smells like cancelled. Personally I'm not surprised.
smells like cancelled. Personally I'm not surprised.
Sickboy007
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Deleted member 17706
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More like, sell maybe 10,000.
It's probably better to just cancel the project now instead of doing the additional work to bring the Wii U version up to date with all of the frantic changes they have been making after the release of GTAV.
Whatever, man. Technically, it has some advantages and disadvantages, apparently. That doesn't stop the narrative from being that it's hard to develop for and, technically, it can't do much more than the PS3/360. None of the games currently out really demonstrate a graphical advantage.
Glittering Crux
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If this is canceled that's sad. I was looking forward to getting the Wii U version. Looks like if I pick it up it'll be Steam during a sale now. 
I know nothing about manufacturing and shipping but maybe those costs outweigh what they could get back so deciding not to release it might be a better idea. Unless they release it as a digital only title.
I wonder how many people would have bought it and if that news even matters. My impression is that the vast majority of Wii U owners, like me, has the system only for exclusives. The number of people who only own a Wii U is probably rather tiny.
It IS inside.
googleplex
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It's done. The WiiU is over. Do the right thing Nintendo, scrap it and start fresh.
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Rösti
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Unless Ubisoft announces this relatively soon, we'll know if it's absolutely true on Monday, February 10, as they will have their Q3 2013-14 Earnings Release Conference Call then.
If true, would be sad if it means it's simply because of lackluster sales of previous titles Ubisoft has released for Wii U. We'll know soon the real reason.
If true, would be sad if it means it's simply because of lackluster sales of previous titles Ubisoft has released for Wii U. We'll know soon the real reason.
Can we please stop pretending like this game has any hope of doing respectable numbers on Wii U. Has there been a single good/decent selling 3rd party title for this console?
Plus we're assuming development for the Wii U version is going well. If they're having problems getting it up to par to the PS360 versions then at a point you may as well cut your losses and not release it.
Crimsonclaw111
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It wants to leave its conservative household and party.
Captain Smoker
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As you said, it's an assumption based on the other porting costs.
We know that their launch ports costs where 1.000.000 $ per game (from their conference call: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=40043576)
This game should've been released in November, therefore the game should've been fairly advanced for every platform.
Well, it's up to Ubisoft.
Let's be realistic.. even if it's about the Wii U.
Screamapillar
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Figured it was likely that the Wii U SKU would be canceled after the game was delayed into spring. It depended a little on holiday Wii U sales, obviously. But... we all saw how that turned out.
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Deleted member 17706
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I think that's plenty realistic when you have reports of Wii U versions doing maybe 1 - 2% of total sales of a multiplatform game.
Majmun
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The year has barely started. In the next Nintendo Direct there will most likely be more concrete news towards actual release dates.
"At least something to play (in that case a hypotetical bad game)" is not a compelling argument. The Wii U's library offers much better options.
Sammy Samusu
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Nevermind, lol.
Zombie James
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I remember when the finished version of Half-Life for the Dreamcast got cancelled whoever cancelled it (I forget who the publisher was) said they saved money. Not sure how, but I'm pretty sure I'm remembering that correctly.
Dude, it IS inside...
Captain Smoker
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Yes, it's also a possibility in the end.
Games sell longer than one month, especially if the next months are November and December.
Uno Venova
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Might as well, it would have sold peanuts on the Wii U.
While the WiiU is definitely in deep shit, Watch_Dogs or no really won't change the fate of the system.
masterlobo
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Is this the Nintendoomed thread of the day?
The Wii U version of Blacklist also counted for 1.6% of <300K sales for the game in North America in the month it released too (via Creamsugar and NPD). Absolutely pitiful numbers.
maquiladora
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Maybe they are just going to cancel it in some regions.
TheBaronOfNA
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What?! For better or worse, Watch_Dogs is going to sell a lot regardless of the quality if the final product.
Listen. WiiU needs games, not only Nintendo ones. And needed some of the Watch_dogs' cake even if it was minimal.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
It's because the development costs are only one part of the picture, they have other costs such as royalties for licensees, marketing, production etc. for a released title which are not factored into the development costs and can be significant.
There comes a point you cut your losses, it's called not throwing good money after bad.
Obviously, if true, Ubisoft has done the numbers and decided this is the best course to reduce the losses releasing would entail.
Yeah and it has long legs. If only Ubisoft where bothered to patch it would sell even faster.
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Deleted member 17706
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And they sell longer than one month on the other platforms, too.
A percentage is a percentage. 1% isn't something you spend much money on.
Besides, there's no guarantee that that 1% of sales would not have simply occurred on other platforms had they withheld the Wii U port. In fact, I'd argue it's likely they would have. What's the overlap of Wii U owners with people who also own a 360, PS3, Xbox One, and/or PS4? I'd imagine it's quite high if they are interested in a more "hardcore" game.
I would think shipping, customs, taxes, ads, etc..? Maybe Ubi can still release it on the e-shop
when pigs fly
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It is a compelling argument. This being canned on WiiU shows how much faith the last decent third party has left with the WiiU. Nintendo should be ashamed that is has got to this point.
What is there for the first quarter of the year? DK and....?
No matter how much you want to spin it, it is a big loss.
But again since WD, like AC is a cross gen game, I see no reason why the porting costs would be significantly higher
Maybe that's the reason why it was delayed..it might not have been anywhere near ready even on the other consoles. It's a possibility
And it might not even be up to Ubi per se. Like you said if the project is almost done, then they might release it due to the consts involved. But without announcing it they put the wiiu version on hold due to the sales of other third party game last year, it would make sense if they decide to put all the resources into the other versions of the game.
But yeah we really need some confirmation first. This could all be a misunderstanding
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