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Halo |OT12| Last One Out, Get the Lights
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Poker Face
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Why was it called "Throwback"? Because Regicide is the next generation standard of FFA? Regicide is poop and god help us if it's ever considered "classic" in the next 5 years.
I like the second one. Very nice.
I like the second one. Very nice.
MaximumFlipFlop
Banned
I'd say yes. Game is a blast and Max Payne is an awesome character. Have you played the prior ones?
lybertyboy
Thinks the Evil Empire is just misunderstood.
Was it a co-op spawn or fixed location spawn?
I killed a man while we were both slow mo jumping off a roof top. Buy it!
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I'd say yes, if you can get used to all the cutscenes and that Tony Scott effect. Some of the best third person shooting I've ever played, and the storytelling is pretty engaging if you jive with it.
I'd say rent it, I got a few 1 day free redbox game rentals if you want you use it on that. Still at redboxes.
Max Payne is awesome. Yes.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
I really should go finish MP3, it's extremely well made and I've only played approx. half the story mode. Worth it for $20 easy.
I just wish all FPS or TPS had Halo aiming and movement controls
Jazzy and I spawned inside mission 4 (episode 1) structure today too. He live streamed it also if you need footage of what happened.
Reagan's BR
Banned
Fun. I paid 60 but I like having it in my collection. It is a good R* game but not near the value of LA Noire or Red Dead. Worth $20 if you plan to keep it in your collection otherwise just borrow it and beat it one weekend.
Co-op.. I guess I was close to the rock (which my co-op buddy spawned inside the rock) then I died and spawned in the rock..
So we were stuck... restarted the mission..
edit: amusing and annoying at the same time.. hah
lybertyboy
Thinks the Evil Empire is just misunderstood.
Yeah, that sucks. Probably a collision bug on that rock which is causing the co-op spawn logic to think it's safe to place you inside the rock. Almost certainly the same thing that Cyren mentioned in 1-4.
YourExWife
Member
hrm.. I also want to play Arkham City since I haven't played the Batman games. I saw a custscene with Catwoman in it and she looked hot so I'll probably buy that too.
so many games y'all.
forza horizon $15? xcom, most wanted, dishonored for $25? is that in-store only? I'd rather self-immolate than visit walmart on thanksgiving day but if it's online I'll pick some stuff up
so many games y'all.
forza horizon $15? xcom, most wanted, dishonored for $25? is that in-store only? I'd rather self-immolate than visit walmart on thanksgiving day but if it's online I'll pick some stuff up
MaximumFlipFlop
Banned
If you haven't heard yet, on Galileo there is a glitch which spawns miniature Covenant. It's funny, but they are effing hard to shoot lol.
Minature Jackals. You can see their tiny shields next to the plasma pistols and needlers.
Tiny Elite holding a Storm Rifle. You can see his little legs at the bottom.
lybertyboy
Thinks the Evil Empire is just misunderstood.
Okay, if you're gonna make Team Snipers on all BTB maps, make it 5v5 and turn radar off.
If you're not, add smaller maps. I'd rather snipe in CQC than spend a whole minute battling one player on a large scale map because he can hide behind everything.
Add Beam Rifles to the map, because why not?
Make the loadouts with a grenade and a pistol, combat tends to be dull and with flinch it's just a monstrosity at times.
Flinch works in Call of Duty because the kill times are fractions of a second.
Flinch doesn't work in Halo because I'm unable to out shoot my opponent because my aim is rendered useless just because he's able to get shots on me.
If you're not, add smaller maps. I'd rather snipe in CQC than spend a whole minute battling one player on a large scale map because he can hide behind everything.
Add Beam Rifles to the map, because why not?
Make the loadouts with a grenade and a pistol, combat tends to be dull and with flinch it's just a monstrosity at times.
Flinch works in Call of Duty because the kill times are fractions of a second.
Flinch doesn't work in Halo because I'm unable to out shoot my opponent because my aim is rendered useless just because he's able to get shots on me.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Hahaha, that's actually fuckin' cute. Some ant strength on that one.
MaximumFlipFlop
Banned
It's cute until a Tiny Elite comes at you and melees you to death. They move so fast it's hilarious. I just sat there with camo and watched them move around.
That's not a glitch.
Honey I shrunk the Covenant?
Heart Attack
Member
and kill instant respwns. it kills the flow of the game
Poker Face
Member
That's not a glitch.
wat
I'm curious how it adds balance.
Balance as in I'll lose to a lesser skilled player 4/10 times instead of 3/10 times, yeah.
Balance as in this fixes issues with weapon strength, I think that's yet to be seen.
I'm not frustrated with flinch in the latter scenario either as much as I am in previous. I don't like losing battles I feel I could have won because a game mechanic temporarily rendered my aiming useless.
Yes. I've mentioned before that Halo 4 creates problems for everyone through some design choices, then offers to mitigate them via perks. It's incredibly bad form. I think Flinch is the worst offender, followed up by giving everyone an EMP on spawn with the PP.
But yea. Flinch. Disappointing, 343.
YourExWife
Member
It's there to encourage more snapshots.
I have a feeling it's going to get progressively more frustrating as more people unlock that mod that reduces it as well.
You'll start losing battles because the other player had an advantage in reducing a mechanic that handicaps you more than him. It's scary.
The P of Poland
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Franklinator
Member
This happened to me earlier today. I was trying to take down a sniper across the map on Solace, but after my fourth shot on him, he finally got the headshot on me. I was impressed until I saw the killcam, where I saw that he didn't flinch at all. It was frustrating to see.
At that moment I decided I will take the Rogue specialization when I hit level 50.
This is my biggest worry. Also I will have to choose my specialisation to get stability so I'm not on the receiving end of the handicap :/
Ehhhh I may have spoken too soon, I meant more in a way that I'm glad they added SOMETHING to counteract the 'no-unscoping-after-being-shot' mechanic.
I had only problems on Vortex with hiding and everything. But yes some smaller maps would be great for snipers (no not abandon.. the spawns are awful there)
Beam Rifles? They are way to easy to handle, everybody would play with them.
rid of radar? hm I don't know could be good.
Pistol? no grenades?no
But yes flinching is really bad :/
I would say one of the worst things is instant respawns.. in almost every playlist it is a problem for me :/
Yeah, I don't mind it as much in DMR vs DMR scoped battles because it feels like a level playing field. Both guns impact the same damage so when scoped, you're dealing and compensating for the same amount of flinch as the opposing player.
I think the BR's strength actually lies in it's recoil, but it's an unfair strength. I can aim at the chest landing nearly guaranteed body shots, planning on the enemy player hitting me at least once, kicking my BR up and landing a final headshot to kill him. It works, but it's cheesy when you break down why it's working.
It presents a unique problem when flinch is applied across the board, and it presents an even more daunting and looming problem once players start unlocking the mods that reduce it.
The Beam Rifles would promote map movement on bigger maps because they are slightly easier to handle, giving players a reason to move and pick them up.
Radar slows down the pace of play because you can camp and read radar, especially on bigger maps. Players feel like they can move more freely when radar is disabled.
Pistols and grenades also promote movement and decrease camping, as you can grenade players out of their position.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Someone explain this to me. You'd rather be zoomed completely out and more or less dead in the water than have your reticle move a slight bit when being shot at? With flinch at least you can recover and finish the job.
Maybe it's just me, but I have much better luck finishing someone far away off with flinch than being completely scoped out and they get away.
Yes.
I must be missing something, I enjoy being able to fight back instead of doing the descope dance.
Re-zooming is a skill, getting knocked out of scope and still landing your shots is a skill, and I'm not yet convinced flinch is the right answer to the 343's perceived "problem" with it.
Also, as was mentioned in the Sparkast, flinch is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH more jarring than getting knocked out of scope.
No, you can't and I'd rather have the option to get away if I get knocked way off target. It's dumb CoD first shot wins logic like this that sucks.
thezerofire
Banned
is it just me or does the Light Rifle have more flinch than the other starters?
I'm actually more indifferent to the scoping/flinching than I thought I was going to be. I however do not like how sniping just keeps getting easier and easier. It's so difficult to challenge a sniper now and it kind of cheapens up the weapon, sadly. Coupled with just how easy it is to no scope still, getting kills with Sniper isn't as satisfying as it used to be.
Sorry totally misread it, thought you was implying we could choose between beam rifles and sniper rifles as loudouts, yes I agree as weapons on the map it would be great.
I know what you want with no radar, but looking back at Reach people still played the same in Snipers on bigger maps without radar, for example on Hemorrhage, but maybe on some maps it would be better without it, yes.
And I just don't want other weapons than snipers in team snipers
It slows down Team Snipers because you NEED to have a place to hide behind if you get flinched, the recoil is that bad.
You're not gonna land any clutch shots if you get hit while in scope because you're temporarily praising the Sun gods hoping you don't die in the process.
Sorry totally misread it, thought you was implying we could choose between beam rifles and sniper rifles as loudouts, yes I agree as weapons on the map it would be great.
I know what you want with no radar, but looking back at Reach people still played the same in Snipers on bigger maps without radar, for example on Hemorrhage, but maybe on some maps it would be better without it, yes.
And I just don't want other weapons than snipers in team snipers
All good. <3
Now if only there was a way to allow players in matchmaking to vote between a "Snipers" and "Snipers Pro" variant...
People will probably get used to YYing out of scope after a while, but the problem is, I guess, that it's preferable to be descoped automatically when being hopelessly pinged, rather than being allowed(forced) to stay in scope and challenging with what basically amounts to double recoil. At least with de-scope you could recenter your aim quickly while strafing, with flinch you kind of just stand there and plug away until you're dead.
It's mostly on the player to realize when to back down, but I don't really like it that way. Favours the DMR and Snipers way too much.
I'd rather not have a bobbing reticule to combat, yes. A mechanic that worked for four games was not in need of an overhaul. One of the things I like about Halo - very specifically - is I don't feel like I'm combating the game mechanics in order to play it. I want to fight players on the basis of my movement, aim, tactics, strategy and execution of such. Not on the basis of who can combat their bucking bronco of a targeting reticule. It represents a bright red line in game design philosophy, and I do not enjoy it when it's crossed. (Reach crossed it with reticule bloom.)
I lack the words to articulate how dismayed I am that Halo 4 added it.
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