This is true but if everything else it pretty much on par ie software development, ips, OS and all that then better hardware on one does equal the better machine. It doesn't always equate to a better machine but it certainly can.
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Edge: PS4 is your next console... maybe
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This is true but if everything else it pretty much on par ie software development, ips, OS and all that then better hardware on one does equal the better machine. It doesn't always equate to a better machine but it certainly can.
Majmun
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Last year you received Halo 4 and Forza Horizon plus a few more I'm forgetting. 2011 there was Gears 3 and Forza 4 plus XBLA titles. All of these games sold well and were received well critically. Hardly abandoning gamers.
The console is in its 8th year, so yes the first party line up is now coming to an end as the focus is on the X1.
I also expect this year to be the last hurrah for the PS3, and in the 8th year the games will begin to become less frequent.
We're not talkign about new IPs, we're talking about games in general. MS not only "doubled down on their most successful franchises"....that's all they did. 7 games in ~4 years, in only 3 IPs.
Even if TLoU was the only new IP Sony released in that same time, they had more than 30 exclusives in total. Which means people had games to play besides multiplatform games for those years.
Agreed. But that IS just an opinion. Hell, Infamous looks better to me than any launch game on either system. If this generation is anything like the last one my favorite console games will either be Sony exclusive or multiplatform.
FlyStarJay
Member
I dont think he knows anything about playstation
edit: can someone please give me a compelling arguement or a few for getting xbox over ps4? If its your prefence then cool. And its a genuine question
Captain Tuttle
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I find it hard to people seriously when they use the term "Xbone". It was funny and appropriate when it first emerged but now it's just a tired meme, like the Titanfall one.
MS has gone a long way in pulling me back to their console but not quite far enough, that $100 price difference is a big hurdle.
That's counting all the XBLA titles they released? The Kinect games they released?
Just because you don't like them doesn't mean other people don't.
Edit. 7m people bought the Kinect Sports series. Clearly people liked playing them. Dance Central, multi million selling franchise etc.
Family Fry
Member
Just you wait for the classic, XBLA doesn't count cause they came out on PC, reply
Classic.
Well...many of the noteworthy games don't. I'm not sure why the word exclusive is so hard for some people to understand. If it came to PC or PS3 it's not exclusive, just like how I didn't include games that came to Vita when I said over 30 exclusives.
360 had a ton of exclusive games in XBLIG.
CadetMahoney
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I think he means console exclusive. . . but that doesn't count either I suspect.
You're only allowed to talk about 1st party retail titles.
It's not impossible to change your ways. They're off to a good start at least.
Also I don't think ppl go into Gamestop and actually care who the publisher is when picking a title. Only looking at 1st party retail titles for diversity and being the main reason for software sales is very short sighted when 360 had alot of diversity and software sales overall.
Because that's all the console will have just like the 360 library.
If the PS4 would come with a stand like this my interest in it would skyrocket!
This made me lol.
Magic Mushroom
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I'll help.
Cheaper, more powerful, PS Plus, Resogun.
And here we go
ProfessorMoran
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I'll help.
Cheaper, more powerful, PS Plus, Resogun.
RESOGUNNNNNN!!!
Anticitizen One
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Your a sucker paying $500 because its pretty obvious that there will be a price drop within the first 12 months
Having said that I am sucker because I'm getting both day one but only because I am hopelessly addicted to Killer Instinct and Panzer Dragon and have bought every Playstation at launch.
PuppetMaster
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That Giantbomb PAX panel where almost noone cheered when they asked who is buying an Xbox One was the first moment I was actualy scared for MS. The room exploded when they asked who is buying a PS4.
I think they are in even more trouble than I anticipated.
Things just come into focus better when you see these views prevalent in the real world and not just on internet forums.
I think they are in even more trouble than I anticipated.
Things just come into focus better when you see these views prevalent in the real world and not just on internet forums.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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It's not a stupid concern but obviously it's not one you care about. It sounds to me like you were one of those people that were A okay with all the DRM measures MS was force feeding at one point and saying "It doesn't affect me so why should I care".
I can't argue with you because you have made your choice and there really is no changing your mind and it's pretty much water under the bridge. What's pathetic is that you guys, yes you Xbox One buyers is that the minute someone does battle your gaming position, you feel as if they are mad that your buying one but completely don't realize that your opinions for the reason why is such a blanket excuse without proper rebuttal.
It's funny because I think the issue is, you have been duped for 5 years and when people tell you this, it doesn't matter. So as I said, no one is trying to change your mind. Please buy and enjoy your Xbox, I don't really care but please don't make it seem like Sony fanboys care so much about your buying decision because some of them don't. They just like busting your butt about how the side you are so confident on committing to, isn't doing the same for you... And still haven't but will give you all the promises in the world that they have yet to show.
Those are just passionate gamers, don't get mad. Funny because if you did happen to say something open minded about the competition as I or any gamer can say about MS, people (Insert opposing fanboy base here) wouldn't ride you or any Xbox One user so hard.
PS4 is more of the same, with better graphics. Xbox One will provide lots of great new gameplay that PS4 can't replicate (largely thanks to bundled Kinect).
No, he doesn't get to ignore the entire PC platform just cuz.
I really can't understand how you guys don't get this. It's the simplest concept in the world. Even worse is you try to spin it like I'M the one trying to twist the argument to suit my position.
UnnDunn said:
Kinect is not going to be able to provide anything that gamers are going to appreciate over a standard controller. It's just too limited of a device with no real input. The best it can do is make some gimmicky applications in normal controller games, but again most will view it as "why can't I just do this with a controller".
Yeah, of course you wouldn't.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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See this is why Sony fanboys jump on Yall so quick.. Look at this terrible answer. Lmao!
Explain how the PS4 is more of the same with better graphics?
What does the Xbox One do that is entirely more different than the PS4 gaming wise that is so much of a top advantage?
What new type of game play does the Xbox One give? What game play has the Kinect historically shown that is better than anything else that the PS4 can't do? From what I've seen so far, Voice commands and little hand movements are the only game enhancing thing it has done which are not so enhancing over the PS4 especially if it's capable on the Eye..
So what is really something the Xbox One does over the PS4 that it is worth buying over?
not_so_special
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and thats usa..here in europe its way worse
CadetMahoney
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If it's good enough for MS and Sony to treat the PC platform differently then a direct competitor I don't see why everyone else should second guess their judgement as completely absurd. Unless you have a good reason explaining they're wrong in doing so.
PuppetMaster
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They have yet to have shown a single example of kinect leading to even 'good' gameplay. Much less great gameplay.
Kinect cheerleaders are absolutely baffling. It's all in their heads. They want something that has not been proven to exist. They have just swallowed hook line and sinker ther PR load from MS saying "just buy it now, examples of good uses for this will come later". I say fool me once...
Sigh. I'm getting tired of the console war shenanigans myself, but this statement is entirely wrong.
scytherage
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This article reads like "Here's what we think....well not really, here's what a bunch of analysts think". Can't they do their own research and base their opinion on that? Analysts don't know games, they're only staring at historical charts and think history will repeat all the time.
KZObsessed
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Would you jump off a bridge if Sony and MS said it was cool? The PC platform exists, it's broader and larger than consoles. You don't get to pretend it doesn't exist just because that's the only way you can make the 360 have more exclusives than it really did this generation, which let's be honest it's the only reason you guys are doing this.
CadetMahoney
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better specs = better performance minimum.
Kinect 2 hasn't shown anything in games that directly makes them better. No head tracking video, not even in-game voice macros shown. Something as simple as that is yet to be seen. The funny thing is that MS more or less said so themselves recently.
HocusPocus
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Peggie 2 is my most wanted launch game for sure followed closely by forza. Both look fantastic.
j0hnny_385
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you...you do realize PC gaming...like...exists...and has numerous XBLA/X360 games available on it?
smh @ some folks here.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Edge was right to communicate that PS4 was far and away the runaway hit at the time they did that first article,
And they are right to backpedal a bit, now that Xbone has attempted to correct its mistakes.
And they are right to backpedal a bit, now that Xbone has attempted to correct its mistakes.
CadetMahoney
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So you can't explain why they treat it differently, but at the same time say it's completely absurd that they do.
Doesn't mean it's a direct competitor to Sony or MS. Which is perhaps why they treat it differently, but of course you know better.
Given the facts above, the opposite is the more probable scenario, where "console exclusive" is a dirty word to ppl like you.
So I said "PC gaming doesn't exist! and doesn't get ports!". You reading comprehension is appalling. That's right don't reply.
Black Mantis
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j0hnny_385
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After reading your "responses" to Derrick's posts...I'd rather step aside and see you make a complete fool out of yourself.
"treating PC differently"
"not a direct competitor"
please, do continue. I'm dying to see where this "logic" takes you next.
CitizenCope
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I guess I must've imagined all those hours of fun I've had playing Kinect games. How silly of me, maybe it's time to go see a doctor.
Seriously, as generalizing and prophesying as his post was, yours isn't any less absurd. This kind of discourse is not really getting us anywhere.
CadetMahoney
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They do treat PC differently than a direct competitor. It's common knowledge. If they did many games this gen wouldn't of got a PC port if the threat was exactly the same as porting it on a competitors console.
They even downport games from PC to consoles (like Torchlight).
Given that it's fact, both Sony and MS treat the PC platform differently the onus is on you to show that they're identicle threats since that's your argument. Here's where you can't actually prove otherwise and resort to ad homs as usual.
CassidyIzABeast
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Opinions.
Ahh yes, I see, instead we buy consoles for games we don't even know exist, amirite?
No I cannot explain why they do such stupid things and it's beginning to hurt them. My best guess would be they still think PC gaming is stuck in the same place it was in 2005, where it really wasn't a direct competitor. Now it's surging forward every year while the console industry shrinks a little more every year.
It's a dirty word because you have to fucking ignore an entire massive platform to make the argument. It's really disingenuous to do so.
What's worse: Making an argument that includes all major platforms or making an argument by ignoring major platforms to boost your argument?
Draconian said:
That's precisely what we do. Every single one of us.
What, you spend hundreds of dollars to play the 2-5 interesting games that come out with it and then sell the console when you're done? No you keep it because you know it's getting some level of future support. You don't know you'll like any of the games but you assume you will like at least a few.
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I don't get it, if it's to each their own, why should we all agree that Sony has more interesting franchises? It's baffling to me how someone can write statements that are so contradictory in such close succession.
Someone can enjoy the consoles for other reasons (better online, better multiplay games and such). The "I think we can all agree" is an exagerattion, nothing is 100% so of course people might think Microsoft has more IPs (even though they're wrong) or stronger IPs.
Microsoft has more IPs than Sony?? I'm talking about amount.