You're confusing correlation for causation. Those are three examples of games that sold below expectations on the Wii U, and also happen to have franchise presence on the 3DS. In reality, though, there are many more games that didn't sell particularly well on the Wii U, two out of the three titles you listed also happen to be among the best selling ones, and the fate of one of those was probably far more influenced by its Wii predecessor than the 3DS port of that predecessor. Zooming out a little further, the best selling DS game and one of the best selling Wii games happened to share a series: NSMB. A case could even be made that all three of those games would have sold worse without their 3DS cousins!
In general, "the reason" the three listed titles had limited success as system sellers probably had little to nothing to do with the 3DS.
What are the major differences besides graphics? I don't want to spend the money on both unless it's really worth it.
What are the major differences besides graphics? I don't want to spend the money on both unless it's really worth it.
Ummmm.... you're missing a fair number of titles that can fill that space. One of which already has a release window in Japan, from what I understand.
the post E3 fallout for Nintendo will be bad. we already have an idea of the 1st and 3rd party games coming to ps4 and x1 now, but after E3 I'm sure the amount will increase even more come fall/winter. most of these ps4 and x1 3rd party games, if not all, are not coming to Wii U. to even expect two games like Smash and Kart to carry the Wii U for 2014 is silly. Nintendo is sending the Wii U to die, it's as simple as that. software droughts, poor release dates, and no 3rd party in 2014 is too much for one console to handle two years in a row. regardless of if Zelda U is announced for Wii U this E3, the damage is done, non-Nintendo gamers are not even paying attention to the Wii U at retail anymore. Smash will just get lost in the holiday hype of ps4 and X1.
I wouldn't be surprised if the WiiU version had one or two extra new characters to encourage people to double dip.
So Sakurai actually trolled everyone when he said the two games would have the same characters?
it doesn't matter, the point is that for quite a decent portion of people, the 3DS version is enough
I am simply speaking of games that will drive people to buy the system. I am aware there are other games between the release of Mario Kart 8 and the now winter bound Smash Bros.
Based on what exactly? How is this a guaranteed factor put into consideration? Especially considering the evidence within the GAF user base which suggests to the contrary?
I'd really like someone to break it down, point for point, exactly how 3DS will be magically "enough".
hold up
do you honestly believe that there are not a significant number of people in the broader market who would be satisfied with a 3DS version?
ESPECIALLY in Japan
Summer 2014 = June 21, 2014 - September 20, 2014
Winter 2014= December 21, 2014 - March 19, 2015
That said I'm getting it on both because I'm a huge Smash weeb. If this was PSABR on the other hand...
This is a hype killer for me. There is no way I'm getting the 3DS version, as I feel Smash is meant for a home-console because of the controls. I really wanted to have both MK8 and Smash on WiiU before September.
Now is just MK8 day one and no Smash, since I'm expecting to spend my gaming budget this fall on games for my PS4. Way to kill WiiU software sales Nintendo.
I might confusing correlation for causation, yet I see no causation in your post.
A Nintendo fan that has a 3ds has less incentive to buy a NSMBU, a SM3DW, a DKC:TF or a SSB4 and even a Wii U for all these games when (s)he has access earlier to cheaper similar games (and also being of a good quality) and probably already played all of those games.
A Nintendo fan without a 3ds or a Wii U have the option of a cheaper handheld to play a very good (and cheaper) version of SSB4 5 months earlier than the excellent (and more expensive) version for which s(he) needs to buy a much more expensive console.
A Nintendo fan that owns both 3ds and Wii U will probably buy both versions of SSB4.
Still seeing just correlation?
Don't wanna read through this whole thread, but are there any apparent pros for this? I can't really think of anything. The 3DS is already doing pretty well in most regions sold, what's the reason for devaluing the WiiU release, especially when it's not even just a few weeks, but a few months?
I'm a little perplexed by this. I mean, I always found it a bit odd they even had a 3DS version of the game to begin with since the Wii U desperately needed that "big" game to draw in a lot of consoles sales. But then to release the 3DS version months ahead of the Wii U version? Seems like this would negatively impact the Wii U version's sales because people might get their fill of the game on the 3DS. I mean, yeah there's new stages, but is that really a big deal? The core gameplay will be mostly the same. And the 3DS version has that extra mode that sounds really cool. I'm kind of annoyed the Wii U version doesn't have that.
Don't wanna read through this whole thread, but are there any apparent pros for this? I can't really think of anything. The 3DS is already doing pretty well in most regions sold, what's the reason for devaluing the WiiU release, especially when it's not even just a few weeks, but a few months?
Don't wanna read through this whole thread, but are there any apparent pros for this? I can't really think of anything. The 3DS is already doing pretty well in most regions sold, what's the reason for devaluing the WiiU release, especially when it's not even just a few weeks, but a few months?
It's not at all a given that releasing the Wii U version first would have had a tangible benefit to sales, whereas doing so would have likely required unnecessarily delaying the 3DS version. Since the latter is releasing sooner, right now the emphasis is on the unique features it brings to the table, but soon enough we'll hear how the Wii U version distinguishes itself, along with whatever benefits there will be to picking up both.
Most importantly, the Wii U's performance during the holiday season will be key. This puts SSB in the Wii U's holiday lineup, and I'm sure that will be a big driver of Nintendo's marketing efforts around that time.
So Smash is WiiU holiday title bummer. I was hoping for a surprise game around E3. WiiU is dead and buried man. No big games from Kart to Smash.
At the company's last shareholder's meeting, Iwata did state that Mario Kart wont be just a one-off boost in momentum. In other words, there will be at least one another big game coming out shortly after it. Nintendo usually avoids releasing games in July, so maybe a late June title or something in August. Perhaps Bayonetta 2 or Hyrule Warriors.
So Smash is WiiU holiday title bummer. I was hoping for a surprise game around E3. WiiU is dead and buried man. No big games from Kart to Smash.
well, i mean, i don't think the Wii U version was going to do gangbusters anyway relatively speaking, so this makes sense to me I suppose.
are the contents of 3DS and Wii U version identical?
I heard from somewhere that the roster is the same.
So you guys think Smash Wii U is going to drop between December 21st and 31st of 2014?
It's gonna be early 2015, probably February or March. If they seriously intend to have this game out before Christmas, they would have said Holiday 2014.
I was so sure it would be out November 21st =/
So you guys think Smash Wii U is going to drop between December 21st and 31st of 2014?
It's gonna be early 2015, probably February or March. If they seriously intend to have this game out before Christmas, they would have said Holiday 2014.
I was so sure it would be out November 21st =/
Whoa, new avatar. Nice.
I'm seriously thinking this is a pre-Black Friday title. It has to be, right?
EDIT: What else is gonna move systems? Hyrule Warriors?
You were going to know the roster before anyway because of the internet.