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Guild Wars 2 |OT3| Two Week Updates, One Box, Zero Subscriptions

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Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
498! hell, it was in the 460s last time I looked.

Many thanks to you for taking the scythe to the roster yourself Hythloday. :)
 
A friend who just bought the game wanted me to ask a question about it.

He just recently bought the digital version of the game a couple days ago, and apparently got the choice of some legacy armor bonus, but he picked the wrong one for his class. He's a Warrior and now he's got the entire Krytan armor and skin sets filling up his bank and he doesn't know what to do since he can't use the skins and everything is soulbound so he can't sell any of it. Is there anything he can do with the armor/skin sets besides just throwing them all away? They're taking up more than half of his bank slots and he's already starved for inventory space.
 
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"How do you grill meat in Guild Wars 2?" by asterionblazing

https://www.weasyl.com/submission/601229/how-do-you-grill-meat-in-guild-wars-2

"You Charr-broil it!" /shuffles off-stage
 

Complistic

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I'm going for Celestial too for my Elem.

So... charged crystals right?

You should check the price of celestial recipes before you commit. They are straight on bonkers. I might switch my ele from zerker to celestial but i'll be waiting for the bazaar to come back before I get the recipes for the armor.
 

Retro

Member
OT4 is basically ready to go. Art is ready, text is ready, links need to be edited (all of the event ones are useless now). Anyone want to suggest a new event schedule site that's halfway decent? Any other links, streams, guides, etc. you think are worthy of inclusion?

Also, does anyone know a friendly gaming-side moderator I can ask to make sure I get both the first and second post in the new thread? The second post is basically the Beginners Tips that I want to be able to link to directly, and it also has a section for returning players to get up to speed.

I figure we've got another week or so before we need to roll over. Less if there's news soon (here's hoping).
 

Complistic

Member
OT4 is basically ready to go. Art is ready, text is ready, links need to be edited (all of the event ones are useless now). Anyone want to suggest a new event schedule site that's halfway decent? Any other links, streams, guides, etc. you think are worthy of inclusion?

Also, does anyone know a friendly gaming-side moderator I can ask to make sure I get both the first and second post in the new thread? The second post is basically the Beginners Tips that I want to be able to link to directly, and it also has a section for returning players to get up to speed.

I figure we've got another week or so before we need to roll over. Less if there's news soon (here's hoping).

I look forward to the wall of shame.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
You should check the price of celestial recipes before you commit. They are straight on bonkers. I might switch my ele from zerker to celestial but i'll be waiting for the bazaar to come back before I get the recipes for the armor.

they only go for 2 silver.
 

Retro

Member
Probably cheap canthan imports brought by zephyrites.

Probably, I expect they'll integrate them into Dragon Bash somehow. Either way, the fact that they acknowledge Cantha exists is still a step in the right direction compared to the state of things at launch.
 
GW2 is almost 2 years, it's time for an expansion, no level cap increase, 2 new weapons/character, 5 new utility skills and 1 new elite for existing classes, bring back Paragon and Ritualist instead of a Cantha expansion we head to Elona, think i stated this before but i would treat Cantha as a different GW universe, Cantha would be GW3, just make one expansion for GW2 and in a few years after Elona expansion you can create GW3, I love all the changes Anet has made since GW2 release but temporary content SUCKS, 18 months after the release of GW1 we already had Factions and Nightfall, GW2 is almost 21months, past few days all i have logged for is my daily I am getting bored again.
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
That's, that's about to happen, woah

Labyrinthine Cliffs and the Crown Pavilion open at the same time... dang. gotta play the crap out of other stuff over the next week.

edit: will jump around every nook and cranny I missed in the Cliffs. Hope Aspect Arena is back as well as it was my favorite minigame so far..
Am preemptively scared as to what the Crown Pavilion with megaservers will look like.

Also, from the Chinese presentation I guess,
The Festival of the Four Winds arrives on May 20th for North American and European players, who will "get the opportunity to help rebuild the beloved city of Lion's Arch that was destroyed by Scarlet [Briar] in Season 1."
edit again: gasp, I bet somebody at the Sanctum wants to trade for blade shards
 

Retro

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GW2 is almost 2 years, it's time for an expansion, no level cap increase, 2 new weapons/character, 5 new utility skills and 1 new elite for existing classes, bring back Paragon and Ritualist instead of a Cantha expansion we head to Elona, think i stated this before but i would treat Cantha as a different GW universe, Cantha would be GW3, just make one expansion for GW2 and in a few years after Elona expansion you can create GW3, I love all the changes Anet has made since GW2 release but temporary content SUCKS, 18 months after the release of GW1 we already had Factions and Nightfall, GW2 is almost 21months, past few days all i have logged for is my daily I am getting bored again.

I don't think any of those things (new weapon pairings and/or types, new skills, new professions) have to wait until an expansion. They've certainly said as much, at least, and I'm willing to give them a chance to deliver. They've certainly delivered on everything else so far.

Besides, it's been a year and nine months. It was two years and a month (give or take) before The Burning Crusade hit, and GW2 has put out a heck of a lot more content. I can't think of any major MMO that started pushing expansions much faster than that (GW1, of course, being more of an online RPG). I'm still firmly in the "who needs expansions?" camp, and I'm hoping Season 2 will really drive that home for folks who still have lingering doubts. The first season gets a pass for being so experimental in a "no one has ever done this before" kinda way. Season 2 is where we see what they've learned since launch. Looking at stuff like the Bazaar and EotM, the maps at least will be amazing.

Also, they've said in interviews in the past that GW2 is flexible enough that they won't need to make a Guild Wars 3 for a while. I'm sure they said something like that for GW1 too though, so who knows.

Given the feedback and response to their Living World CDI, I wouldn't be surprised if they got the hint about temporary content. I think they're throwing the Bazaar and Gauntlet out there early to 'get it out of the way' so they don't have to shoehorn it into the Living Story.
 
why does that site look exactly like deviantART but is not deviantART?

It doesn't look anything like DA, actually. Unless you mean that it looks like an art site, in which case, it does look like DA, FA, and about ten other sites. Though in https://www.weasyl.com/ case, it's more like FurAffinity in that it's a furry art site, whereas DA is more general.

As for the return of the Pavilion and the Cliffs: I am going to take so many screenshots.
 
18 months after the release of GW1 we already had Factions and Nightfall

GW1 had one race. Every profession only had, at most, two animations for casting all skills. I love seeing my Ritualist do the "now I break my back!" animation every, single, time for every damn skill. Skills had barely any visual effect, most of them shared. Zero voice acting except in the odd awkward cutscene. Each "expansion pack" was just a handful of new skills, a new human model with very limited animations, a bunch of new enemies, some palette swaps, and a bunch of new environment textures, models, and some missions. And in the end, you don't even really look at any of it, you just watch the bars and press 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ,7 - repeat until you reach the damn green quest marker. (Sorry, busy doing Nightfall right now and it's boring me out of my gord. Factions was no better. The missions are tolerable, but getting to them, uuuuug. So much of GW1 is a walking simulator with monsters that exist only to troll you - it's like the entire game is Cursed Shore).

Guild Wars 1 was an *entirely different paradigm of game*, much smaller in scope, much more svelte in terms of Anet being able to add content quickly and in a cost-effective way. You simply cannot use GW1 as a benchmark and expect GW2 to follow the same time-table.

Getting bored is natural, especially if you're doing the same thing over and over. But that's not the game's fault. An expansion would, at best, temporarily stave off the boredom, and we'd just have this same conversation again in a month.

If the existing content holds *zero* allure for you - or you've exhausted *everything*, have an alt for each profession, each race, done your Personal Story, done all dungeons explore mode, maxed out Fractals as far as you want, played enough PvP to get bored of it, don't have any interest in WvW... then take a break! In all seriousness, burning yourself out and then pining for another fix from the dealer isn't healthy.
 

Retro

Member
*crosses fingers for some use of my blade shards*

Pretty sure they strongly hinted at the Blade Shard vendor being related to the Bazaar. That fits the last time it was in town, where they would take old holiday currencies (zhaitaffy, etc.) in exchange for Fortune Coffers.

Edit: Also, well said, Miktar. The lack of a subscription and gear treadmill means any time you're not having fun is the perfect time to go do something else, without feeling like you're wasting time or falling behind.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
He mentioned recipes. Right now the recipe for a full celestial exalted armor costs about 80g, though you can bypass that by doing an ascended version, as the celestial recipe is purchaseable with laureals (I think).

Oh I'm talking about Ascended. Will be crafting Wupwup than exo.
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
Just want to round out this conversation about the differences between GW1 and GW2 by this point:

In addition to having less total content in GW1 with Prophecies at launch than GW2 did, it's easy to forget that Factions and Nightfall were not expansions but independent campaigns. They released for $50 and could be purchased regardless of whether or not you owned any others, and you could play a full "game worth" owning only one of them, leveling a character and progressing through its story without ever seeing any of the content in the others. This release style also allowed them to turn around and mark down (what was now known as) the Prophecies campaign in the marketing sense that $30 was a great deal to "add" to your experience after buying one of the others. Perceptually, combined with the lack of subscription, this made it very easy for me to consider GW1 merely "a game that I play," something I'd choose on any given night just like any other game, an outlook that has followed into playing GW2 to my benefit.

This style of releasing content was a very different approach from the traditional MMO model of core + expansions and was a key component of the consistent sales success they had up to the release of the game's only true expansion, GW:EN.

This approach could not work for GW2 and they took another different approach, again separate from the traditional expansion model, and made that work financially as well. From the standard end user's perspective, at this point in its life cycle the only real content GW1 had seen for free since launch was Sorrow's Furnace. While this was great, novel content, for scope I'd say it was roughly on par with or even a little less meaty than Fractals (the initial release). Everything that followed content wise in GW2 has also been free, available to all players. Thus despite the enormously higher costs of running and maintaining GW2- which is an actual MMO rather than the "CORPG"-infrastructure of the first one- it has actually provided a substantially greater value for the purchase in the same time frame.

That's not to say I don't want lots more stuff, like you'd get an expansion, but:
2 new weapons/character, 5 new utility skills and 1 new elite for existing classes
I'd like something a lot more substantial in scope than that if I'm being asked to shell out money for the first pay-gating of content we'll have seen since launch. I also think it's highly likely, unfortunately, that there will be a level cap increase whenever we see a paid expansion, because it's such an "MMO expansion thing" to do. In all honesty, I'd like to go as long as possible getting free content before being required to pay for that privilege.

If there isn't enough on offer for you to want to play in the meantime, just don't. The compulsion to play "just because" is a bad thing, something you want to counteract. Spend your time doing what you want. If you find yourself "just logging in to do your daily," you were probably better off not playing that day at all. Not like there's a shortage of quality game releases out there right now!
 

I do wonder though why the didn't keep the full-upright idle stance for the Charr from GW1. It makes sense, really, that with their body structure they'd want to rear up as much as possible, for 'imposition', but the Charr in GW2 are almost constantly bowed.
 

Shiokazu

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I do wonder though why the didn't keep the full-upright idle stance for the Charr from GW1. It makes sense, really, that with their body structure they'd want to rear up as much as possible, for 'imposition', but the Charr in GW2 are almost constantly bowed.

tho the charr look badass when they use the animation of the " Empower " guardian skill.
 
tho the charr look badass when they use the animation of the " Empower " guardian skill.

Yeah, that's how I know they can still stand in that pose, it isn't an issue with the rigging or model. Wish they did it more, or there was a /standtall emote :p

Also: my face when I hit the Dasha Vestibute mission in GW1:

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Man, screw this place.

Edit: Made it! Ha ha. I never wanna see this again:

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Levito

Banned
It's always awesome to hear that GAFwars is still going so strong. Most online GAF communities die rather quickly, yet this one still has 30+ members on every night.


Wish I had more time to play. :(
 

Tekku

Member
Just started playing this wonderful game again. I was set on trying a different race this time, but after seeing the new faces I went back to Charr again. :)

Say hello to Fyrra Frosthide:

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I do wonder though why the didn't keep the full-upright idle stance for the Charr from GW1. It makes sense, really, that with their body structure they'd want to rear up as much as possible, for 'imposition', but the Charr in GW2 are almost constantly bowed.

That looks great. I'd despise playing Charr quite a bit less if they had kept that posture :|
Methinks it probably had something to do with those jaws clipping into the chest during animated cutscenes.
 

Zeroth

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Just started playing this wonderful game again. I was set on trying a different race this time, but after seeing the new faces I went back to Charr again. :)

Say hello to Fyrra Frosthide:

bSK.jpg

Nice! Are you in the guild already? If not, say your account name so an officer can add you!

That looks great. I'd despise playing Charr quite a bit less if they had kept that posture :|
Methinks it probably had something to do with those jaws clipping into the chest during animated cutscenes.

All these iron legion machines probably don't have comfortable seats, so decades of sitting in a bad position killed the charrs' backs
 

BraXzy

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I meant to post last night but never got round to it. I saw a bunch of new places, some quite fleetingly but new all the same. Rata Sum is now my favourite location in the game so far, Asuran architecture is so damn cool! Thank you to Seil for getting me to a waypoint I needed and for showing me a world boss or two :)

I took some pics so here you go!


This is a weird visual glitch I saw when the reflection of a mountain kept flickering and changing to red. It looked like a sea of blood :L

 
a week from today

Awesome shots Braxzy. Rata Sum is the superior locale indeed. You can press CTRL + SHIFT + H to turn off the UI for screenshots if you like :)

edit:
My favorite glamour shot of Rata Sum

I bound 'Hide UI' to the Insert key, so that there would be a 'Turn Off UI' key right near the 'Prnt Scrn' key.
 
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