Secret_asian_man
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I'll probably get the XL as I already have a launch 3DS
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Nintendo reveals the "New Nintendo 3DS" and "New Nintendo 3DS LL"
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ThatStupidLion
Member
what price will the revisions debut at? 180$ for XL?
I think the 3DS XL had it right but due to changing the layout of the internals, they put it where they had room, which happened to be the bottom this time around. Also the reason I'd assume the power button is at the bottom. As long as the stylus isn't too hard to pull out, it was a nightmare on the OG.
MyBodyisReady
Neo Member
Except now when you shake the 3DS the wrong way, or the plastic clips wear over time and the stylus just keeps falling out and falling out and falling out as you try to play. I wish they kept it on the side.
I just turned my launch 3DS upside down. Nope, the stylus doesn't fall. Same when I tilt my ancient, hinge-cracked DS Lite. I really wouldn't worry about this.
MyBodyisReady
Neo Member
My stylus falls out of my 3DS XL very often. It's irritating.
uncleniccius
Member
They can put a charger in for a very tiny cost, so it kind of is.
It is just a silly thing, and Googling it plenty of people have purchased one without it.
To release a product without a charger is bullshit if it is Micro USB, if it is a non standard charger (only used for DSI/3DS etc) it is even worse.
Zeyphersan
Banned
I wouldn't expect it immediately, but I think they eventually will
Would love to be wrong though
Look at the pics on the first page. It's not.
I posted this in another thread, but I feel it's worth sharing here too:
Another comparison to the GBC, and clearly what will be happening:
From left to right equivalents -
1. Original 3DS game, works on both, no actual benefits on new console as it wasn't designed to take it into account, however just like how OG GB games displayed in limited colour on the GBC, standard 3DS games have the benefit of better 3D on a New 3DS. That's a selling point.
2. The NEW 3DS ENHANCED game, which plays on both units but has better performance and extra features on the New 3DS - Majora's Mask 3D and the next Pokemon would be great examples, with perks such as 60fps on the New 3DS and extra camera control. In terms of the GBC, Wario Land 2 contained two versions of the game - one for the GBC and one for the GB, and it switched depending on what console you were on (on a GBC it is full colour and has no slowdown).
3. Finally on the right we have the New 3DS ONLY games, such as Xenoblade which would not ever be possible on the original hardware. Wario Land 3 is a fucking gigantic game with graphical effects that would have been impossible on the original GB.
I still think it's a toss up over whether Majora's Mask will be option 2 or 3. I have a feeling it may be 3, which is why we haven't seen it yet....Grezzo/Nintendo were restrained heavily on OOT 3D due to its classic status (Miyamoto demanded they make the music sound exactly the same as on the N64, for example). Majora's Mask doesn't share that "untouchable" quality, so I feel like they're going to go all out and have it as a NEW 3DS showpiece.
Another comparison to the GBC, and clearly what will be happening:
From left to right equivalents -
1. Original 3DS game, works on both, no actual benefits on new console as it wasn't designed to take it into account, however just like how OG GB games displayed in limited colour on the GBC, standard 3DS games have the benefit of better 3D on a New 3DS. That's a selling point.
2. The NEW 3DS ENHANCED game, which plays on both units but has better performance and extra features on the New 3DS - Majora's Mask 3D and the next Pokemon would be great examples, with perks such as 60fps on the New 3DS and extra camera control. In terms of the GBC, Wario Land 2 contained two versions of the game - one for the GBC and one for the GB, and it switched depending on what console you were on (on a GBC it is full colour and has no slowdown).
3. Finally on the right we have the New 3DS ONLY games, such as Xenoblade which would not ever be possible on the original hardware. Wario Land 3 is a fucking gigantic game with graphical effects that would have been impossible on the original GB.
I still think it's a toss up over whether Majora's Mask will be option 2 or 3. I have a feeling it may be 3, which is why we haven't seen it yet....Grezzo/Nintendo were restrained heavily on OOT 3D due to its classic status (Miyamoto demanded they make the music sound exactly the same as on the N64, for example). Majora's Mask doesn't share that "untouchable" quality, so I feel like they're going to go all out and have it as a NEW 3DS showpiece.
You should only have to do that once. The Nu3ds had a wireless PC sync feature so you won't have to physically remove the micro so card.Wait a min...on the aforementioned Q&A it said
Both the new 3DS' have...screws at the back...
But the Micro SD goes under there...
I thought that the back would just snap off
Zeyphersan
Banned
I once bought a used DS Lite from GameStop for $70 during a Black Friday promotion. Later, they had a promotion where you could trade any DS towards a 3DS and it'd be worth $70, so I got an OG 3DS for $100.
Later, I wanted an XL, so I sold my OG to a friend for $100. Basically I just need to sell my XL for $80 and I can keep this streak going!
Later, I wanted an XL, so I sold my OG to a friend for $100. Basically I just need to sell my XL for $80 and I can keep this streak going!
Sammy Samusu
Member
Most likely, yeah.
I think it's because the UK uses a different plug than the rest of Europe, so by not including a charger, they can use the same boxes for the whole region.
ArcaneFreeze
Member
Did they ever explicitly state that Xenoblade couldnt run on the OG 3DS at all? All I remember them saying is that its exclusive to the New 3DS due to the new CPU. Its perfectly plausible that Xenoblade could run on the OG 3DS but the drawbacks from having less CPU power and possibly having to work more on trying to get it to fit the OG's architecture just weren't worth it compared to just making it N3DS exclusive.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
The current XL isn't even $180. It's still $200. Why would this suddenly launch at a lower cost?
uncleniccius
Member
Considering the fact that they include it with the standard 3DS it still kind of sucks though:/
ArcaneFreeze
Member
New Launch + Price Drop = sales.
It'd also give people more incentive to upgrade if its at a lower price point.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Yes, they did say the better CPU was necessary to run the game.
I know, I know, I'm not defending it or anything. I'd prefer it to be included as well.
megarockexe
Member
It's an upgrade. The 3DS wasn't cutting edge in power when it launched, so this new upgrade gives it legs.
I'm sure people here are still playing the latest games on their 4-year old mobile device.
I'm sure people here are still playing the latest games on their 4-year old mobile device.
SenorArdilla
Member
Hopefully there won't be too many New 3DS exclusives.
Yeah that's pretty much how it's going to be. Regular 3DS games play the same with the addition of the better 3D, and games that can use the CPP working with the C-Stick. Some games will work on both but with more incentives on the New 3DS, similar to how they released the Pokemon Dream Radar app on 3DS for Black and White 2 which are DS games. Things like the C-stick working with Smash and MH4 aren't inherent to the new 3DS' since the original models have the CPP but having them built in helps. And then you have games like Xenoblade that are only possible on the New devices. I'm guessing games like Pokemon will fall into the middle, just like Black and White. they'll work on 3DS but with extra incentives to get the New Device. Makes sense since it's the biggest IP they have on handhelds.
Speaking of which, I hope they do something different with the new Exclusive titles, like a different colored cart or something. Hopefully see-through
True, not like you can hot-swap like I said previously in any case, but still weird! I guess it's to prevent messing with the battery.
Caffeine
Member
would be ok with majoras mask being a 2 and i would be fine with this.
uncleniccius
Member
Thanks for the responses by the way - I may have come across a little angry, but I do feel that it is a bit insulting that as someone who doesn't own a 3DS I would have to buy a charger if I purchased an XL.
Zeyphersan
Banned
I thought that was only for media like photos and songs?
ArcaneFreeze
Member
At its current capacity. Like I stated Its possible that they would have to had cut out too much stuff for it to run on the OG 3DS, but it doesnt mean it didnt work on it. But of course maybe thats not the reason at all. My whole point really is that we don't know how much more of the CPU was needed to run Xenoblade, yet people are running around thinking that every major game will be N3DS exclusive now and the OG 3DS is going to be obsolete. Xenoblade is a huge open world game, but stuff like Pokemon or even a Majora's Mask remake, while they could take advantage of the CPU, dont have to be n3DS exclusive because I highly doubt the hardware modifications to the n3DS would make the game that much more different.
Don't worry, it is a very weird situation to be fair, I don't think there is any other electronic that comes without a charger. If you want to get one early, you can get a charger for 2 quid here.
fredrancour
Member
People aren't thinking of a push for n3ds exclusives driven by creative forces or technical ones, they're thinking of Nintendo pushing for more new model only games to sell more hardware.
Ingueferroque
Banned
The white one with colored buttons is so gorgeous.
uncleniccius
Member
Thanks
£2 is good, but I've avoided Gameware like the plague since I got a GC controller. I bought it years after my other two and it is the only one which does not work.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
If we don't know, why are we talking about it? We're not getting anywhere with this mindset.
ArcaneFreeze
Member
From most of the comments I've read here people do think its for Technical reasons. And if that were truly the case Nintendo would have done the same thing with the DSi but that thing still managed to sell over 40million on its own simply by phasing out the DS Lite from stores which is what i expect them to do here.
LordOfChaos
Member
I think they should have gone with either a fully new generation of hardware, or enforced all games run on the old hardware as well. This in-between crap is going to annoy a lot of folks. Nintendo did talk about being more like iOS and Android with a single "platform" but multiple devices, and if this is what their vision was for that, I think it's a bad sign.
Oh really, that sucks. Is there no option for backing up save files?
Letterbomb
Banned
Anyone have the details on audio specs? I'm not seeing anything listed in the OP. Will the N3DS and its XL counterpart have differing specs on that?
It has such features built in. The files end up on the SD card which you can put onto your PC, but will only work on that 3DS.
Zeyphersan
Banned
From what translations I read, no, not games not save files. They may change that later?
I remember that feature now. I wish they had cloud back ups, something linked to your NNID.
Its not comparable at all.
True. 3DS is much cheaper