Welfare
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I predicted 328k for the One! At least I still have PS4 on top.
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Pachter Predicts: Xbox One outsold PS4 in September (dance, you puppets)
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Sony mention 1 week sales for Destiny.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/09/17/destiny-ps4s-biggest-software-launch-yet/
Why would Xbox One sales skew more towards B&M retailers?
I'm not saying they don't, I would just like to hear the reasoning. I can't think of a reason, one way or another.
Xbox, show me why I chose you.
RowdyReverb
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There was Forza Horizon 2 and Destiny was a multi-plat title. Also, Madden 15 was released in the US just before the end of August. I think his reasoning is just that people could get a Destiny/Madden + XB1 bundle for $50 cheaper than an equivalent PS4 bundle, and as we all know, price sells. I think Destiny was a huge push for both consoles, and MS tried hard to capitalize on Destiny's hype in spite of being unable to co-market it. I don't know if he's right or not, but the logic isn't entirely unsound.
MightyHedgehog
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But when has it ever been a very good barometer for sales? Just because it also has something at a top place selling doesn't mean the rest of the market falls in-line or vice-versa...especially when there are direct marketing efforts that the brick 'n mortar retailer group makes in the Autumn and holiday season that Amazon doesn't.
Or the PS4 is getting restocked and sold. The possibilities are endless.
He only wants it in Emeralds form.
Novel Mike
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It's comments like these that make me just roll my eyes when people quote his predictions.
Even with the Xbox one promotion Destiny week the PS4 bundle outsold the X1 3 to 1 in my store (my store generally has more xbox customers overall) I would be absolutely shocked if X1 somehow pulled ahead, its very unlikely.
Even with the Xbox one promotion Destiny week the PS4 bundle outsold the X1 3 to 1 in my store (my store generally has more xbox customers overall) I would be absolutely shocked if X1 somehow pulled ahead, its very unlikely.
Majmun
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I HIGHLY doubt it. Especially when the PS4 Destiny Bundle was known about since E3. Giving people ample time to preorder.
If I know anything it's that people love software updates.
iirc they are like 5% can't remember completely but Aqua gave a great breakdown before. Just so you know it doesn't matter much because Amazon hasn't been wrong once in terms of hardware positions even the month XB1 won (December 2013) it was reflected in the charts.
as I was corrected in the other thread. that isn't corrsct
try deciphering the quote
"In fact, last week was our single biggest PS4 hardware sales week since Christmas 2013! Thats a lot of PS4s. Thanks, Guardians!"
it was the best week of this new year basically.
Alex_Mexico
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As far as I know it was only for one week and I don't think many people got the opportunity to learn about that promo.
Yeah but Best Buy is not exactly the market leader in much of anything anymore.
Kinda disingenuous of you to use that to mock him and not include his entire prediction. He based the sales numbers on whether or not the metacritic average hit a certain number, which it obviously didn't come close to doing.
RespectThySole
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I don't see any reason why this would be the case. Destiny had Sony exclusive marketing and no major exclusive released was released on XB1 except for Forza Horizon 2 which came out at the very end of the month so the impact it had for this month is probably minimal.
The deals are nice and all, but I don't see them being enough to push XB1 ahead for the month.
The deals are nice and all, but I don't see them being enough to push XB1 ahead for the month.
Your anecdotal preference does nothing to change the reality of sales data.
Exactly, so the argument should run through how the Amazon sample is not representative, not how large it is relative to other retailers -- the sample size is large enough to be more than enough statistically -- IF (and it's a big if) it's representative.
I don't think it is, so we always need to be careful with Amazon data, and use it relative to how the real numbers turned out compared to previous months, to try and account for the bias in the sampling.
Also worth keeping in mind that by and large the Xbox One deals were better outside of Amazon for a while in September.
Don't believe it at all.
I mean, I know the Xbox One sale did very well (seen evidence first hand and talked to reps; the store was packed with many people getting an Xbox One Madden bundle & Destiny) but I can't see the system doing better than the PS4.
Maybe I am underestimating the Xbox One sales for September but still -- I can't see how the system could have done better than the PS4 last month.
I mean, I know the Xbox One sale did very well (seen evidence first hand and talked to reps; the store was packed with many people getting an Xbox One Madden bundle & Destiny) but I can't see the system doing better than the PS4.
Maybe I am underestimating the Xbox One sales for September but still -- I can't see how the system could have done better than the PS4 last month.
GG Pachter
EventHorizon
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Wait? What? When did that happen?
I can understand not wanting to tie actual numbers based on Amazon data, but that is pretty lopsided in PS4's favor for it to go entirely the other way. In other words, why would a Pacher prediction be worthy of a new thread, but contradicting info from a major seller not even warrant a post?
Most likely.
I personally witnessed a friend telling me that no less then six people returned their white ps4 destiny bundles and picked up an Xbox when they heard that the Xbox DLNA update was coming in October.
Most of the big deals on the console were in-store. Just a hypothesis based on conjecture.
RowdyReverb
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But what does this say about Xbox One sales?
Right, but looking at Best Buy and Amazon does help paint a picture of the overall trend. I'd be shocked if Xbone actually managed to outsell PS4 with that White Destiny bundle doing notably well.
Face it Tiger..
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so when will Pachter finally lose his job, when his boss decides to hire Sales-Age Neogaf as a collective?
They actually did have the free game deal.
redblack85
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More is large and the more you talk
Zeyphersan
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Well since we're all throwing around anecdotal evidence, I spend a lot of time at my local Gamestop, and during my time there I saw two Xbox Ones and two Wii Us sold, and no PS4s
WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?
beeteedubs this is a true story
WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?
beeteedubs this is a true story
Dont know since MS never mention anything.
Yeah, it's a good point -- I added it to my post above myself after recalling some of the deals we saw this month
Irrelevant -- the question is whether or not Best Buy shoppers are a representative sample of the market.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/09/17/destiny-ps4s-biggest-software-launch-yet/
Okay no, Pach is crazy.
Okay no, Pach is crazy.
Yeah that's what's really baffling. Supposedly he does his own retail checks, so what stores was he checking before making this prediction?? Xbone vastly outsold the PS4 10 to 1 at Walmart or something?
ComputerBlue
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First thing that came to mind. We'll see I guess but I really doubt he's right.
plasmawave
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Pachter ban incoming?
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