shinobi602
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Sure thingGood post OP. Hopefully the OT links to this.
Sure thingGood post OP. Hopefully the OT links to this.
Let us take this time (again) to say goodbye to the greatest party member which sadly didn't show up again
RIP in Pieces Barkspawn
*pours one for his homie*
RIP in Pieces Barkspawn
I hated that stupid dog, good riddance.
/nitpick
Do the grey wardens drink arch demon blood or darkspawn blood? I remember it as darkspawn but it has been a long time.
/nitpick
Do the grey wardens drink arch demon blood or darkspawn blood? I remember it as darkspawn but it has been a long time.
It's both. The Archdemon blood isn't mentioned until late game.
Let us take this time (again) to say goodbye to the greatest party member which sadly didn't show up again
RIP in Pieces Barkspawn
*pours one for his homie*
It's both. The Archdemon blood isn't mentioned until late game.
He brought you pantaloons.
You ungrateful bastard lol
That we know of from trailers/reviews:Perhaps it's not appropriate for a lore thread but as a Dragon Age newbie, I'm really interested in knowing who the surprise returning characters are and if I need to set them up to appear with the Keep. I really want to experience the widest range of characters I can.
I hated that stupid dog, good riddance.
Leliana- Hilariously automatic regardless of choices...
Would anyone happen to have a guide like this, for dragon age keep?
I partially played the first game as a dwarf, only got a few hours in, stopped around the point where. I didn't play the second game at all, however I would like to make some decisions in the keep so that I can have my own little world to start with.you meet that witch's daughter meredith or something to that effect.
I tried to play around with the keep the other day but I found that it went too fast and didnt give me enough time to make a decision, nor did it give me enough back story to actually make a decision. So I was wondering if theres some sort of guide for this so I don't feel left out and get stuck with random world X when I start the game.
That we know of from trailers/reviews:
Returning characters from Dragon Age Origins:
Morrigan- Automatic regardless of choices.
Leliana- Hilariously automatic regardless of choices.
A third one that Dawg mentioned earlier but if you really want to knowKing Anders or Loghain
Returning characters from Dragon Age II:
Varric- a must for any party he's awesome
Hawke- lead character of DAII. We don't know how big of an involvement he/she has.
That we know of from trailers/reviews:
You meanKing Alistair, right? xD
Morrigan? Is that you? What are you doing on Neogaf?
LAWL derp yes. Get those names confused sometimes.
He would be the absolute worst king ever xD
He would be the absolute worst king ever xD
Why? Who is Lambert? Why does he want to kill the mages?Lord Seeker Lambert declares the Seekers and Templars split from the Chantry
Who is Cassandra, how does Varric know where Hawke is, and why is he so important that he can contribute to peace? Peace with the mages/templars?Cassandra Pentaghast captures a dwarf named Varric and tries to find out where Hawke is, hoping Hawke can contribute to peace talks
So what's up with Morrigan and her mom after DA:O? Are they in Inquisition?
How did the Quickening make elves mortal?
How did the Quickening make elves mortal?
Just being around the mortal races (humans) sapped their energy and immortality. Supposedly. In actuality, it's still a mystery.
In the old gods myth, why did the gods suggest for the magisters to enter the golden kingdom/city? Did they know what would happen?
Most likely they knew what would happen, or rather, wanted the world to know the truth about the Golden City (it was already black).
Why did Tevinter kill Andraste?
Maferath resented her being in power as a woman. Simple misogyny.
Are the Circle of Magi a place? A collective term for Magi prisoners? Or something else?
Circles are a group of Magi watched by Templar in their towers. There's hierarchy, but laughable as they answer to the Knight-Commander.
So the darkspawn live underground, and look for the old gods who are also underground, or are they in the Fade? do the darkspawn enter the fade at will/in their sleep and look for the god? Is there an underground city of darkspawn or what?
Old Gods are underground and deep at that, so yes, they are just lying there. The darkspawn can "sense" the Old God much like a radar, and continually search for one. Once an Old God has been found, they cease and a Blight begins. As for an underground city, well, more likely the Thaigs of the Dwarves are being held as a "city".
If the Grey Wardens are simply ones of who are immune to taint, how did they originally find archdemon blood to drink?
Assumedly, gathered from the fields fought by soldiers in the First Blight.
Are Seekers of Truth just devout follows of the Chantry?
Seekers are those who are the "proto" Inquisition. They want to know the truth of everything and answer only to the Divine.
Nothing major happens in ages 2-5, and 7-8?
Lots of stuff happen, but it's the Blights that are most important, as they are potentially cataclysmic events.
So, all this time that mages are imprisoned, what is the city of mages doing? They aren't at war with everyone else for holding mages?
Tevinter? They give fuck all for any other mages besides their own. They have relatively less power than the olden days, and want to keep to themselves while they consolidate. It's an isolationist state.
Why does Hawke help/attack the Mage? How does he fit in at that part? Is he just some guy caught in the middle?
It is assumed that Hawke is a mage in the default state, and yes, Hawke is caught in the middle and has relevancy because your sister/brother will be a mage/templar depending on your choice in DA2.
Meredith is defeated either way? What happens if you help the templars?
Yes. The story and your choices do matter, but the end result is that Meredith still goes off the deep end because of the red lyrium. If you help the Templars, you become Viscount of Kirkwall, and try to maintain order instead of all-out war.
What is the civil war in Orlais about? Why does the Chantry help the mages here, if they are the ones who employ the templars? Is there a chantry in every human country?
Grand Duke Gaspard, a subordinate of Empress Celene, thinks that the recent events with the mages and elves means Celene is too goody two shoes to do anything about it. He sets up an ambush, and the Empress gets away. After some events with some elves, they are in full out war with each other. The Chantry can do dick all about the mages because they're in war with the Templars now. There is usually a Chantry is every human country, yes. I'm not sure about the Anderfels though, as they are a barbarian-like tribal race.
Why? Who is Lambert? Why does he want to kill the mages?
Another Templar guy who has seething hatred for mages. His unflinching dedication to policing them and the truth leads him to believe that the Chantry, like the Empress, won't do shit about mages. So he will.
Who is Cassandra, how does Varric know where Hawke is, and why is he so important that he can contribute to peace? Peace with the mages/templars?
Cassandra is a seeker who left them to start the Inquisition with Leliana (from DAO). Hawke is a major player of the beginning of the conflict from DA2 and knows how to mediate conflict (through conflict of his own or otherwise).
And why didn't the templars just kill mages instead of making them prisoners?
They're not "prisoners", only over time have they been seen this way. In the beginning, it was just all about keeping mages together so they could watch over each other, and use magic for good (stopping blights and doing harmless research). Templars have the right to kill mages at any time they think they're a threat (indeed, the entire Circle) by using the Rite of Annulment - an ancient Chantry sanctioned vow that allows them to murder mages indiscriminately.
There are some people on both sides trying for peace?
Yes. My mage Hawke and my mage Inquisitor are vying for this.
Lol, boy, I feel like we've open a rabbit hole
How did the Quickening make elves mortal?
In the old gods myth, why did the gods suggest for the magisters to enter the golden kingdom/city? Did they know what would happen?
Why did Tevinter kill Andraste?
Are the Circle of Magi a place? A collective term for Magi prisoners? Or something else?
So the darkspawn live underground, and look for the old gods who are also underground, or are they in the Fade? do the darkspawn enter the fade at will/in their sleep and look for the god? Is there an underground city of darkspawn or what?
If the Grey Wardens are simply ones of who are immune to taint, how did they originally find archdemon blood to drink?
Are Seekers of Truth just devout follows of the Chantry?
Nothing major happens in ages 2-5, and 7-8?
So, all this time that mages are imprisoned, what is the city of mages doing? They aren't at war with everyone else for holding mages?
Why does Hawke help/attack the Mage? How does he fit in at that part? Is he just some guy caught in the middle?
Meredith is defeated either way? What happens if you help the templars?
What is the civil war in Orlais about? Why does the Chantry help the mages here, if they are the ones who employ the templars? Is there a chantry in every human country?
Why? Who is Lambert? Why does he want to kill the mages?
Who is Cassandra, how does Varric know where Hawke is, and why is he so important that he can contribute to peace? Peace with the mages/templars?
And why didn't the templars just kill mages instead of making them prisoners?
There are some people on both sides trying for peace?
Lol, boy, I feel like we've open a rabbit hole
In the old gods myth, why did the gods suggest for the magisters to enter the golden kingdom/city? Did they know what would happen?
This is a sound theory, yes. The will of the old gods is unknowable, of course. Perhaps they sought to enter a new phase of history, much like Flemeth and Morrigan seem to be seeking.
Why did Tevinter kill Andraste?
Andraste was the figure head of a massive slave revolt and Tevinter is dependent on slavery to thrive.
Are the Circle of Magi a place? A collective term for Magi prisoners? Or something else?
The circle is several places spread all throughout human civilization, and not all of them are prisons. Just the worst.
So the darkspawn live underground, and look for the old gods who are also underground, or are they in the Fade? do the darkspawn enter the fade at will/in their sleep and look for the god? Is there an underground city of darkspawn or what?
No one has been able to descend deep enough in the Deep Roads to know where all the Darkspawn are coming from. Human myth posits they come from the fade, dwarven myth posits that they simply "come from below"...We know they come from below, but that doesn't necessarily mean they aren't coming from the Fade, either.
If the Grey Wardens are simply ones of who are immune to taint, how did they originally find archdemon blood to drink?
It seems the first wardens simply imbibed darspawn blood treated with mystic rituals from Tevinter and ancient Arlathan. No archdemon blood until they'd killed an archdemon. Perhaps the archdemon blood isn't necessary?
So, all this time that mages are imprisoned, what is the city of mages doing? They aren't at war with everyone else for holding mages?
Tevinter doesn't care about mages outside of Tevinter. They're selfish and insular.
Why does Hawke help/attack the Mage? How does he fit in at that part? Is he just some guy caught in the middle?
Hawke is definitely a victim of circumstance, but he can be played as a more active participant if you choose.
Meredith is defeated either way? What happens if you help the templars?
The Templars abandon Meredith as mad and assist you in killing her.
And why didn't the templars just kill mages instead of making them prisoners?
So far? Mercy. But believe me, many templars have suggested just this.
There are some people on both sides trying for peace?
I hope so!
Lol, boy, I feel like we've open a rabbit hole
Lots of questions, so I'll just field the first.
My personal theory on the matter is that the notion of immortality is the elves' way of glorifying their past, and the "quickening" a means of coming to terms with the fall of their civilization. We know that old elves entered an "eternal sleep" from which they never awoke, and that the places they entered this sleep look a lot like tombs in Origins. Clearly to any human it just sounds like their elders died and instead of facing the reality of their mortality they instead chose to weave a new mythology around it. From a realistic perspective, the "quickening" could also allude to any number of the plagues and illnesses the humans carried with them from across the sea that the elves simply weren't prepared for. Humans arrive, elves die prematurely of plague, they justify it as a "quickening" to keep in line with their mythology surrounding death - or the denial of death. This isn't really based on any canonical sources, but I think it's pretty sound.
Royal Subject: King Anders a man stabbed twenty people to death.
King Anders: By the Maker. Pray tell subject, was he a mage?
Royal Subject: Why.... y-yes my lord I think he is though I don't see how th-
King Anders: SLANDER! RACISM! LET HIM BE FREE!
Meredith is defeated either way? What happens if you help the templars?
How did the Quickening make elves mortal?
In the old gods myth, why did the gods suggest for the magisters to enter the golden kingdom/city? Did they know what would happen?
Why did Tevinter kill Andraste?
Are the Circle of Magi a place? A collective term for Magi prisoners? Or something else?
So the darkspawn live underground, and look for the old gods who are also underground, or are they in the Fade? do the darkspawn enter the fade at will/in their sleep and look for the god? Is there an underground city of darkspawn or what?
If the Grey Wardens are simply ones of who are immune to taint, how did they originally find archdemon blood to drink?
Are Seekers of Truth just devout follows of the Chantry?
Nothing major happens in ages 2-5, and 7-8?
So, all this time that mages are imprisoned, what is the city of mages doing? They aren't at war with everyone else for holding mages?
Why does Hawke help/attack the Mage? How does he fit in at that part? Is he just some guy caught in the middle?
Meredith is defeated either way? What happens if you help the templars?
What is the civil war in Orlais about? Why does the Chantry help the mages here, if they are the ones who employ the templars? Is there a chantry in every human country?
Why? Who is Lambert? Why does he want to kill the mages?
Who is Cassandra, how does Varric know where Hawke is, and why is he so important that he can contribute to peace? Peace with the mages/templars?
And why didn't the templars just kill mages instead of making them prisoners?
There are some people on both sides trying for peace?
How did the Quickening make elves mortal?
Why did Tevinter kill Andraste?
Are the Circle of Magi a place? A collective term for Magi prisoners? Or something else?
So the darkspawn live underground, and look for the old gods who are also underground, or are they in the Fade? do the darkspawn enter the fade at will/in their sleep and look for the god? Is there an underground city of darkspawn or what?
So, all this time that mages are imprisoned, what is the city of mages doing? They aren't at war with everyone else for holding mages?
Why does Hawke help/attack the Mage? How does he fit in at that part? Is he just some guy caught in the middle?
Meredith is defeated either way? What happens if you help the templars?
Who is Cassandra, how does Varric know where Hawke is, and why is he so important that he can contribute to peace? Peace with the mages/templars?
And why didn't the templars just kill mages instead of making them prisoners?
Honestly, I can't understand people who say the lore and world of Dragon Age is generic and/or dull.
I find all this super interesting. Thanks OP for making this thread