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Man takes selfie with 3yo black boy, makes racist jokes, gets fired & plays victim

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foxtrot3d

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Words are either ALWAYS racist or NEVER racist.

BTW this is another clear example of how race-baiters are the REAL racists. If they could have some empathy and try to actually understand his intentions with that post instead of treating him like some lowly feral thug, maybe we could put this racism thing back to bed.

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I'm asking if calling the kid feral and him being black is racist or bad on it's own or only bad within the context of the other comments. Say the other comments didn't exist other than where did you get the kid. Would this be a huge issue still?

Yep because of the very definition of the word feral. If the kid was acting up then it would be iffy but a kid presumably doing nothing why would you not just say he was for a coworker. Now if you remove the where did you get the black kid question its hard to tell what the intention of the person is.
 
Lol it's always the same people in these topics defending the wrong people.

Anyway, glad to see the guy lost his job. What a dumass, he's in marketing he should know how social media works.
Who's defending the wrong people? My only qualm is the immediate demonization of the word "feral."
 

Korey

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I'm asking if calling the kid feral and him being black is racist or bad on it's own or only bad within the context of the other comments. Say the other comments didn't exist other than where did you get the kid. Would this be a huge issue still?

What exactly is the point of arguing about whether or not something is racist outside the context at hand?
 

Siegcram

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I'm asking if calling the kid feral and him being black is racist or bad on it's own or only bad within the context of the other comments. Say the other comments didn't exist other than where did you get the kid. Would this be a huge issue still?
They do, so who cares? I swear, people go to such lenghts in these threads to somehow concoct a scenario that's somehow not racist, it's ridiculous.
 
I'm asking if calling the kid feral and him being black is racist or bad on it's own or only bad within the context of the other comments. Say the other comments didn't exist other than where did you get the kid. Would this be a huge issue still?

Few things (aside from clear cut slurs) are racist without context. The context matters.
 
I'm asking if calling the kid feral and him being black is racist or bad on it's own or only bad within the context of the other comments. Say the other comments didn't exist other than where did you get the kid. Would this be a huge issue still?

but him calling the kid feral is a direct response to a comment by his friend. you can't just ignore that context or pretend it didn't exist.
 

Jonm1010

Banned
So the whole conversation he had on the picture didn't give you any clues?

Of course. Most of those other posts after the picture was posted are pretty blatantly racist and then he comes in and responds with the "feral" comment. Feeding into it. Adding context. Throw in the post days earlier with the picture of "trayvoning" and it is pretty clear the guy isnt innocent.
 
So if the kid was white instead would this still be an issue?

What's the point of this particular what if, though?

Like, why would you even ask it?

I mean, boogy & bomb are obviously just playacting, but you seem to actually be buying into the argument honestly. Which is kinda nuts: What's the purpose of trying to create implausible scenarios removed from all context of this story? What's the point you're trying to arrive at?
 

Wag

Member
Why do kids today think if they post shit like this on social media they're not going to get found out? Amazing. 😂
 

farisr

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Although he did something shitty, deserved the backlash, and was rightly fired, let's not bring someone's credit score into this.

Not sure if you are just going along with the joke or not, but if not, he is basically mocking the possibly upcoming chinese credit score system (that'll supposedly be mandatory in 2020) that there was a thread about a few days ago, where doing something deemed as "unworthy" (like purchasing games, voicing opinions in disapproval with the government, or even knowing someone that's part of your social network who does these things) can lower your credit score.

Thread can be found here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1121180
 

andthebeatgoeson

Junior Member
I'm asking if calling the kid feral and him being black is racist or bad on it's own or only bad within the context of the other comments. Say the other comments didn't exist other than where did you get the kid. Would this be a huge issue still?
You are legitimately having trouble understanding why calling a small black child an animal is seen as racist?

That's like racism 101. How far would you have to research racism and black people to get to the animal stereotype? 2 seconds?
 

tkscz

Member
holy shit dude you can't just remove the context. Yes in a vacuum the word "feral" is by itself not racist. Nobody is saying that. The reason that word, in this situation, is raising so many eye brows is because of the context of the situation. I don't understand why this needs to be explained. The word "black" in itself is not racist. I have a black pen. I have a black shirt. But if I post a picture of an african american person and say "typical fucking black" it's probably going to cause a stir. No, you are not a racist for referring to your son as feral. Don't worry.

Pretty much this.

Like saying a feral man took my potatoes isn't racist, but say if I said a feral Irish man took my potatoes, that's racist. I'm pointing out his race for no other reason other to make fun of a stereotype and to make him look/feel bad. If he had said something like "guys, please stop making racist comments." and then said something about kids being feral, it would be different.
 

Mr. X

Member
If we ignore everything, is the comment racist?

I hope you guys stretched before all this reaching to play defense.
 
Then the proper comment a non racist would say is:
"All these kids running amok, they're pretty wild at that age."
You might have a leg to stand on there if you made a comment out of the blue.

Here?
He uses the term "feral" in context to this:

He is referring to the child as a wild animal.
He is clearly RACIST, stop trying to deny it
I'm not denying the guys a racist. I'm denying the word feral should be the trigger.
 

m3k

Member
Racist shit... I'm glad he took a friend down with him too.

The worst part is the out of context and him talking about the child further - just apologise you fuck.

Burn his career down.
 

D i Z

Member
I'm not trying to defend this guy or anything. Ignore him. I'm trying to understand at what point feral becomes racist within the context.

Within the context. You've already had that answered several times over. Now you're just dancing around what you really want to say.
 
I'm asking if calling the kid feral and him being black is racist or bad on it's own or only bad within the context of the other comments. Say the other comments didn't exist other than where did you get the kid. Would this be a huge issue still?
Yes. If he posted the picture and said in the caption, "Found me a feral kid" then he'd be called a racist cause association of black people as savages, untamed wild creatures, etc. Don't need any other context. Why you trying to single this out from the context, though? Hoping to check what to say in the future?
 
After the slave joke, before the starving African joke.

That's fine. I understand that. But people are also saying if someone just asked where he got the kid, and he said he was feral, that would still be racist. So I'm trying to get clarification on that example to understand it better because I wouldn't have thought much of it when referring to any kid of any race/color on its own. I'm no longer talking about what happened in the OP, I just wanted clarification in general.
 

JDSN

Banned
Feral means nothing, thug means nothing, race-baiters means nothing, monkey means nothing, Barack HUSSEIN Obama means nothing. Funny how this terms have their very particular meaning until they are deployed, then Htown's theory kick in.
 

thefit

Member
Who's defending the wrong people? My only qualm is the immediate demonization of the word "feral."

See this is were context is legitimately at play and just went right over your head. You picked up on the word "feral" as being demonized and you completely ignored the facebook conversation that led to the use of that term in a nasty way. You know context.
 

Jonm1010

Banned
I'm not trying to defend this guy or anything. Ignore him. I'm trying to understand at what point feral becomes racist within the context.

Well I think when you have a history of posting things like "trayvoning" and then you post a selfie with a black child and after some of your friends make racist comments you pile on with "he's feral" instead of deleting the picture, pushing back or even just staying silent its pretty hard to make the case the comment wasn't racist. I mean the guy is throwing in with a clearly racist dialogue. That alone has to make him somewhat culpable.
 

KarmaCow

Member
I'm not trying to defend this guy or anything. Ignore him. I'm trying to understand at what point feral becomes racist within the context.

I'm guessing you're not pulling some trolling dipshit routine like Bombasador so you're only digging yourself deeper here. I'm sure you can figure out under what context calling a kid a feral animal is racist.
 

andthebeatgoeson

Junior Member
I told ya'll to stop. He either does know these things or should know these things or does know but simply doesn't want to accept them.
I don't even give a shit about context. It's racist. Without the context. You would have to avoid any topic of racism on 6 continents and have no curiosity about racism.

Maybe he's from Antarctica, I don't know.
 
I have no issue with the guys/girls termination, btw. Sorry if my communication skills are a bit rough on sensitive topics.
 
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