We can't do anything to curb the need for petroleum products in our daily lives?
I don't really think so. Petroleum products make everything from plastic to medicine to food.
We can't do anything to curb the need for petroleum products in our daily lives?
We can't do anything to curb the need for petroleum products in our daily lives?
Funnily enough, a number of large corporations are starting to back pedal on their voluntary myopia about climate change.Money is more important then people.
So we ride this out until earth turns into Venus-lite? We can't be bothered to reduce meat consumption? Get EVs or use mass transit (maybe even just a couple days a week)? Or donate to Pacs/Super PACs that focus on supporting green candidates/legislation? Or research new ways of making the medicine?I don't really think so. Petroleum products make everything from plastic to medicine to food.
Hurt a planet because of greed... Pathetic.
So we ride this out until earth turns into Venus-lite? We can't be bothered to reduce meat consumption? Get EVs or use mass transit (maybe even just a couple days a week)? Or donate to Pacs/Super PACs that focus on supporting green candidates/legislation? Or research new ways of making the medicine?
We have defeated major industries before for the good of the planet. Why can't we do it again? Because it's harder now?
No doubt.Money will be what ends humanity.
Money is more important then people.
Another example of how utterly fucked America is.
Can we have them charged with reckless endangerment of humanity?
Don't worry, two party Democracy will save us.
fuck it. I'll wait till I'm in the thunderdome with each one of these pricks. The world won't do anything with this information.
But George Will was telling me scientists were projecting global cooling in the 70s
We can't do anything to curb the need for petroleum products in our daily lives?
We can't do anything to curb the need for petroleum products in our daily lives?
Yes I understand that petrochemicals are used in just about everything. And because of the petrochemical industry we are 5-7 decades behind in terms of research for alternatives. We are simply where we should have been in the 60s or 70s. And it will take time to figure out how to substitute petrochemicals in our daily products. Until then we, as humanity, need to curb consumption.We can definitely reduce our reliance on petroleum for energy (despite the fact that alternative energy sources are not as efficient), but we can't eliminate it totally because hydrocarbons are crucial to make food, plastics, and medicine, and oil and natural gas are the best sources of hydrocarbons.
If we found a different, easily extractable source of hydrocarbons, that would be something. But we haven't. The best source of hydrocarbons come from other things that had them...deceased biomatter.
I'm interested in if carbon capture technology is something that will end up being the answer to our problems. Take the carbon we expel out into the air and insert it back into the earth.
Funnily enough, a number of large corporations are starting to back pedal on their voluntary myopia about climate change.
Typically, insurance companies have come to realize they might be in a world of shit sooner than later. - I think there's a quote by a CEO floating around that essentially says their business wouldn't be sustainable with a temperature increase of four degrees.
In the same way, some analysts and consultancies are working on the financial effects of climate change, i.e. how much it would fuck markets in the long run and how much their clients would lose.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not cheering for these guys, but I wouldn't be too surprised if that same greed pushed a number of companies to actually try to protect their assets by fighting what they empowered for so long.
The most hilariously infuriating part about it all is money isn't even real. It's a set of ideas and evocations over reality.
Oh really? So all the cover up and misinformation was just Exxon doing the world a favor? We couldn't have invested in alternative methods, technologies, and means of going about our lives? If they had worked to find solutions to climate change back then we probably would have found more significant ways of curbing greenhouse gas emissions by now.We live in a world that was and mostly still is completely dependent on oil.
If they had gone out and screamed from the rooftops "HEY THIS IS CAUSING GLOBAL WARMING" it wouldn't have done shit.
I'm not saying this is great news, but the world demanded oil, and they supplied it. That's pretty much what you'd expect an oil company to do.
So will something happen for once? Can we gwt the pieces of shit that are still alive, and charge them with crimes against Humanity?
Oh really? So all the cover up and misinformation was just Exxon doing the world a favor? We couldn't have invested in alternative methods, technologies, and means of going about our lives? If they had worked to find solutions to climate change back then we probably would have found more significant ways of curbing greenhouse gas emissions by now.
Oh really? So all the cover up and misinformation was just Exxon doing the world a favor? We couldn't have invested in alternative methods, technologies, and means of going about our lives? If they had worked to find solutions to climate change back then we probably would have found more significant ways of curbing greenhouse gas emissions by now.
Shortening, probably ending the life of your species (at least) for short term profits...
Yeeeeeah, no. Oil sand excavations raping vast areas of land, attempted ventures to the Arctic Ocean (though luckily those proved to be too expensive), cheapening the price of oil so that it would keep its edge over renewables at a time when the technology is evolving quickly, going cheap on environmental protection, not doing much to prevent the ever-growing usage of oil etc. are not done by an industry that is trying to drive alternative energy technology. I mean, maybe they do say they are trying to do better, but their actions really don't support any of that. They will suck the oil wells dry if the world at large doesn't do enough to stop it. Some countries are waking up to the harsh reality (Sweden's aim for all renewables is a start, let's hope they succeed and can set an example to others), but others are still lagging behind severely.
just to be clear, this is part of the problem. We can't trust these multibillion dollar companies with the keys to our future because of where their priorities lie. Unfortunately they're the ones with a lot of the energy money and means to do this resaerch, so we don't really have a choice. If oil is our addiction, then oil companies are the dealer. Shockingly enough, it's in the dealers best interest to keep their clients addicted.Exxon, Shell, GE, etc. are the leaders in new technologies for carbon capture, solar energy, biofuels, etc.
just to be clear, this is part of the problem. We can't trust these multibillion dollar companies with the keys to our future because of where their priorities lie. Unfortunately they're the ones with a lot of the energy money and means to do this resaerch, so we don't really have a choice. If oil is our addiction, then oil companies are the dealer. Shockingly enough, it's in the dealers best interest to keep their clients addicted.
lol like this is an American only problemMoney is more important then people.
Another example of how utterly fucked America is.
Given the topic of this thread, I don't trust the invisible hand or capitalist competition to solve a problem like this. No alternative energy solution is going to be as profitable short term for these companies as oil and I don't trust them to think long-term if it comes at the expense of quarterly earnings. They've dragged their feet, lobbied against anything that would hurt their bottom line and flat out lied concerning the damage of global warming.But they are also competing with each other because they all want to be the first ones to figure out a profitable and efficient alternative energy solution OR something like carbon capture technology.